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#1 2011-10-29 21:17:42

Zeratul
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Real 3D On Scratch!

Hello, everybody, have an idea for 3d graphics that MIGHT work. It involves naming a point's location and drawing a line to it from other points, creating polygons, which are used to create a 3d model. Note that each point is NOT a sprite, but a location named using varibles. I, unfortunately, do not know how to acheive this.

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#2 2011-10-29 21:20:33

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

This topic seems to fit into the Requests forum better.


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#3 2011-10-29 21:37:48

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

mattb777 wrote:

This topic seems to fit into the Requests forum better.

Not sure, maybe the OP wants to get help on creating the 3D game on Scratch? I think it's okay to leave in Collaborations for now.


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#4 2011-10-29 22:31:56

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

I think I know what you mean. Might I make a demo?


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#5 2011-10-30 07:52:18

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

nickbrickmaster wrote:

I think I know what you mean. Might I make a demo?

Go ahead!


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#6 2011-10-30 09:58:56

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

By points do you mean x,y,z which you use to plot in a 3d graph but to make on that base maybe quite hard

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#7 2011-10-30 13:25:38

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

Kiraza wrote:

By points do you mean x,y,z which you use to plot in a 3d graph but to make on that base maybe quite hard

Yes, but there would have to be a mathematical equation to determine what size and position each line should be in comparison with their X,Y, and Z positions.


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#8 2011-11-01 05:50:23

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

Zeratul wrote:

nickbrickmaster wrote:

I think I know what you mean. Might I make a demo?

Go ahead!

Any word on the demo?


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#9 2011-11-14 17:09:26

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

Zeratul wrote:

Zeratul wrote:

nickbrickmaster wrote:

I think I know what you mean. Might I make a demo?

Go ahead!

Any word on the demo?

I'm not sure... I'll try it.


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#10 2011-11-17 16:07:23

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

i have made the formula to convert X,Y,Z to X,Y for the Scratch:
(X,Y,Z as in in 3d)
0 + Y - X * 0.5, 0 + Z - X * 0.5
made a 3d shape maker (quite confusing/complicated hwo to use) and soon ill post a demo of moving a 3d shape.
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Kiraza/2118013

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#11 2011-11-17 16:54:13

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

Kiraza wrote:

i have made the formula to convert X,Y,Z to X,Y for the Scratch:
(X,Y,Z as in in 3d)
0 + Y - X * 0.5, 0 + Z - X * 0.5
made a 3d shape maker (quite confusing/complicated hwo to use) and soon ill post a demo of moving a 3d shape.
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Kiraza/2118013

I can make it a bit better.
Y - X / 2, Z - X / 2

It simplified it and used division to half it.

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#12 2011-11-18 15:39:28

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

Kiraza wrote:

i have made the formula to convert X,Y,Z to X,Y for the Scratch:
(X,Y,Z as in in 3d)
0 + Y - X * 0.5, 0 + Z - X * 0.5
made a 3d shape maker (quite confusing/complicated hwo to use) and soon ill post a demo of moving a 3d shape.
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Kiraza/2118013

Yes, I saw it.


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#13 2011-11-19 13:52:35

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

Scratchthatguys wrote:

Kiraza wrote:

i have made the formula to convert X,Y,Z to X,Y for the Scratch:
(X,Y,Z as in in 3d)
0 + Y - X * 0.5, 0 + Z - X * 0.5
made a 3d shape maker (quite confusing/complicated hwo to use) and soon ill post a demo of moving a 3d shape.
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Kiraza/2118013

I can make it a bit better.
Y - X / 2, Z - X / 2

It simplified it and used division to half it.

That might work or not ?

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#14 2011-11-19 13:58:19

Kiraza
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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

Scratchthatguys wrote:

Kiraza wrote:

i have made the formula to convert X,Y,Z to X,Y for the Scratch:
(X,Y,Z as in in 3d)
0 + Y - X * 0.5, 0 + Z - X * 0.5
made a 3d shape maker (quite confusing/complicated hwo to use) and soon ill post a demo of moving a 3d shape.
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Kiraza/2118013

I can make it a bit better.
Y - X / 2, Z - X / 2

It simplified it and used division to half it.

Actually you just made a mistake by dividing it by 2 because you have to times x by 0.5 first then take away
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#15 2011-11-20 03:34:46

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

Scratchthatguys wrote:

Kiraza wrote:

i have made the formula to convert X,Y,Z to X,Y for the Scratch:
(X,Y,Z as in in 3d)
0 + Y - X * 0.5, 0 + Z - X * 0.5
made a 3d shape maker (quite confusing/complicated hwo to use) and soon ill post a demo of moving a 3d shape.
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Kiraza/2118013

I can make it a bit better.
Y - X / 2, Z - X / 2

It simplified it and used division to half it.

WAIT YOU ARE CORRECT SORRY MY MISTAKE

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#16 2011-11-20 14:28:10

Kiraza
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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

Created a simple movemnet next step is to create a game, any ideas will help

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Kiraza/2161921

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#17 2012-05-01 19:34:40

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

bestvitalic2 hit report rather than quote!

bestvitalic2 wrote:

you cannot divide by 0 if X or Y = 0.


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#18 2012-05-01 20:58:26

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

cheddargirl wrote:

mattb777 wrote:

This topic seems to fit into the Requests forum better.

Not sure, maybe the OP wants to get help on creating the 3D game on Scratch? I think it's okay to leave in Collaborations for now.

If anything, it should go under "Project Ideas" since the topic creator doesn't have any concrete work yet, and afaik doesn't intend to collaborate with anyone on this.

Can't be bothered to look for examples of this, but I'm pretty sure 3D engines like this have been done before.


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#19 2012-05-01 21:16:32

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Re: Real 3D On Scratch!

technoguyx wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

mattb777 wrote:

This topic seems to fit into the Requests forum better.

Not sure, maybe the OP wants to get help on creating the 3D game on Scratch? I think it's okay to leave in Collaborations for now.

If anything, it should go under "Project Ideas" since the topic creator doesn't have any concrete work yet, and afaik doesn't intend to collaborate with anyone on this.

Can't be bothered to look for examples of this, but I'm pretty sure 3D engines like this have been done before.

O.o, whoa, talk about a huge necropostin' bump! And who's afaik?


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