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#26 2012-04-26 04:01:10

Hardmath123
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Re: "Communicating to Scratch via ActionScript" variables problem

comix6 wrote:

>with the projects plying in succession. I can do that for you.

Yes that is almost exactly it. I answered on the wiki but here I'll answer in more detail. I am feeling like Victor and his friends including dylly500 are in some sense 'trapped' on the Scratch website. I encouraged them to unhide file extensions, to use cmd and command line, and ftp, generally to get out from under Microsoft control and become members of the online community.

As it is, scratch games are sort-of trapped there on the scratch website, sort of getting trapped in the MIT community instead. They can more or less make javascript games too, but very constrained by problems typing and organizing text,  and yet there there is more creativity because if you have a div or  a textarea or whatever, it is not isolated, you can get the value or innerHTML whenever you like.

Once a scratch project is done, it is sort-of frozen and it can't talk to other scratch projects like how a div can talk to a div etcetera. Yet it seems that experts do get them to be able to communicate with stuff.

I want to be careful not to request any change in scratch that would turn it into a business tool, but it is not general purpose enough as a learning tool the way it is. And that is because scratch games can't communicate with each other.

What would be ideal would be if a kid could have two scratch projects on a website and when a sprite on one is clicked, a character on another says 'Hello World.'

So they are not so isolated one from the other.

Ah. There are two ways to do this: use Remote Sensor Connections, or use Clutter.

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#27 2012-05-01 17:47:39

comix6
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Registered: 2011-12-20
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Re: "Communicating to Scratch via ActionScript" variables problem

As for Ubuntu, these kids are only 7 years old. 

As for importing all into one scratch project, or using an executable, that means being 'contained' on a Microsoft Desktop or in an embedded scratch project.

I sometimes think that even Google wants to trap people so their online documents are stuck on their server (why it is so difficult to access local files with Google Chrome browser).

Certainly Microsoft wants to trap everyone using only executables. Alll browser icons except internet explorer get whited out as soon as Microsoft Office is installed. Wordpad and Notepad from the beginning are made to make it impossible to save a text file with the extension .html without making changes in control panel, and ignoring many warnings.  Their search feature intentionally mixes people up (search for people etc).

I know MIT is better than this, but there is a tendency for people to get possessive. There is that old saying if you love something you have to let it go, and you Scratch guys are keeping close reigns over the project.

Admittedly, the Snap version is completely client-side and flexible, and wouldn't it be nice if .sb files could be converted to snap and vice versa.

I really don't blame people for being possessive. Not to be so is like giving a huge present to random strangers, without getting any real credit for it. It would be just an act of generosity...maybe Java was like that.

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