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#5001 2012-04-26 13:32:07

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

joefarebrother wrote:

Also, I think an empty ring should report the identity function.

bharvey wrote:

Votes?

-1 because snap! should not guess what you mean. it should do what you mean, if it's not understanding it, explain better.


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#5002 2012-04-26 13:54:48

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

roijac_test wrote:

joefarebrother wrote:

Also, I think an empty ring should report the identity function.

bharvey wrote:

Votes?

-1 because snap! should not guess what you mean. it should do what you mean, if it's not understanding it, explain better.

i mean that should be an option that the user specifies. They could disable it for the purposes of debugging then when you get all the bugs out or you introduce a bit where you it should report identity function, you can enable the option.


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#5003 2012-04-26 21:53:28

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

joefarebrother wrote:

well maybe it could be an option? You right click and there is a checkbox menu item "make empty rings report identity" and when it's checked, any empty rings report an identity function, otherwise, you get an error message.

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Brian, you should have claimed it.  wink

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#5004 2012-04-27 01:08:02

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

shadow_7283 wrote:

Brian, you should have claimed it.

Nah, I'm an adult, I'm supposed to be too mature to compete with kids.  tongue

Hey, shadow, quite a while back you expressed interest in volunteering to redo the reference manual pictures for the Snap! version.  Are you still interested in that, and will you have time this summer?  Because we're almost at the point (Jens is working on zebra coloring, which I think is the last big obstacle) where the non-OOP part will be ready to do that.  You're allowed to back out.  smile

(And other people are welcome to share the task.)


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#5005 2012-04-27 04:00:36

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

Sorry for the delayed response;

No problem.  smile

I had to put some attention into the stuff I actually get paid for.

Out of sheer curiosity, what might that be? I just realized maybe developing Snap! and answering questions on this thread wasn't your full-time job...  tongue


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#5006 2012-04-27 10:25:36

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Hardmath123 wrote:

Out of sheer curiosity, what might that be? I just realized maybe developing Snap! and answering questions on this thread wasn't your full-time job...  tongue

It feels that way to me, too.  smile   But they pay me to teach computer science at the University of California, Berkeley.  And since we got our NSF grant, they pay me in part to plot to take over the world of high school computer science with Snap! and the Beauty and Joy of Computing.

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#5007 2012-04-27 10:58:25

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

Hey, shadow, quite a while back you expressed interest in volunteering to redo the reference manual pictures for the Snap!

I'd love to contribute! I'll definitely have time, so let me know what you need!  big_smile

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#5008 2012-04-27 12:20:49

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

(And other people are welcome to share the task.)

I can help, I'm on "vacation".  smile


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#5009 2012-04-27 14:18:52

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:

Brian, you should have claimed it.

Nah, I'm an adult, I'm supposed to be too mature to compete with kids.  tongue

I'm not a kid, i'm a teenager.


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#5010 2012-04-27 15:04:39

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

joefarebrother wrote:

I'm not a kid, i'm a teenager.

When you're 62, everyone below 40 is a kid.  smile


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#5011 2012-04-27 17:41:04

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

joefarebrother wrote:

bharvey wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:

Brian, you should have claimed it.

Nah, I'm an adult, I'm supposed to be too mature to compete with kids.  tongue

I'm not a kid, i'm a teenager.

I'm a teenager as well and I still count teenagers as kids  smile


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#5012 2012-04-28 12:46:59

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

can we get back on topic?


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#5013 2012-04-28 19:42:27

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

joefarebrother wrote:

can we get back on topic?

Sure.  Status report: We are all holding our breath waiting for Jens to finish debugging zebra coloring (partly done), and then we can get to work on the manual.

P.S.  You sure you don't want us to annoy you some more?  tongue  <- jk

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#5014 2012-04-30 07:10:06

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

zebra coloring O.O
yay  smile

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#5015 2012-04-30 08:35:16

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Snap has gotten really good since I last tried it!  big_smile


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#5016 2012-04-30 16:36:36

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

roijac wrote:

zebra coloring

Yeah, with a couple of little bugs -- maybe one more day to get it right.


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#5017 2012-04-30 18:21:06

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

@Jens
When saving an application I've got this Error message :
"Save failed: Error:QUOTA_EXCEEDED_ER\DOM Exception 22

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#5018 2012-05-01 02:04:07

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

xly wrote:

@Jens
When saving an application I've got this Error message :
"Save failed: Error:QUOTA_EXCEEDED_ER\DOM Exception 22

I think that's your browser telling you you've saved too many files. Maybe there's an option somewhere to increase the space available for Snap to use?


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#5019 2012-05-01 03:00:20

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

@ Jens & blob8108
To be honest this application consists in creating a large wargame map by assembling 4 smaller *.jpg map, each quarter of map being represented  by a sprite costume. The next step is to add and move on this map several army units. This type of application works with Byob but I can imagine that Snap! has still size limitations.

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#5020 2012-05-01 03:53:48

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

@xly, look here http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=58985

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#5021 2012-05-01 13:15:57

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

"@xly, look here http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=58985"
Thanks for your contribution. Each of the four costumes is a jpg file of 400 Mo , put alltogether this is less than a medium definition jpg photo.
Anyway I'm going to make a test with Firefox.

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#5022 2012-05-01 13:18:25

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

xly wrote:

"@xly, look here http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=58985"
Thanks for your contribution. Each of the four costumes is a jpg file of 400 Mo , put alltogether this is less than a medium definition jpg photo.
Anyway I'm going to make a test with Firefox.

Hey, xly, I noticed you quote by copying and pasting the quoted text a lot. To quote someone, you can just click the blue "quote" link in the bottom-right corner of the post rather than copying and pasting the text.  wink


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#5023 2012-05-01 13:33:45

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Well, that's a bit of an issue. I hadn't realised the size limit for localStorage was so low...  hmm


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#5024 2012-05-01 16:51:07

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Hardmath123 wrote:

xly wrote:

"@xly, look here http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=58985"
Thanks for your contribution. Each of the four costumes is a jpg file of 400 Mo , put alltogether this is less than a medium definition jpg photo.
Anyway I'm going to make a test with Firefox.

Hey, xly, I noticed you quote by copying and pasting the quoted text a lot. To quote someone, you can just click the blue "quote" link in the bottom-right corner of the post rather than copying and pasting the text.  wink

Thanks for advice. You know, an old chap like me (71 this year) has some difficulties to change its old habits.
I have tested the application in discussion with Firefox. Very unstable, but from time to time I succeeded to save the application. (the size of each of the four files is not 400 Mo as mentioned , but 400 K. This means that my 4 files all together have the size of a "low definition" digital picture.)

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#5025 2012-05-01 17:40:10

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

xly wrote:

Hardmath123 wrote:

xly wrote:

"@xly, look here http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=58985"
Thanks for your contribution. Each of the four costumes is a jpg file of 400 Mo , put alltogether this is less than a medium definition jpg photo.
Anyway I'm going to make a test with Firefox.

Hey, xly, I noticed you quote by copying and pasting the quoted text a lot. To quote someone, you can just click the blue "quote" link in the bottom-right corner of the post rather than copying and pasting the text.  wink

Thanks for advice. You know, an old chap like me (71 this year) has some difficulties to change its old habits.
I have tested the application in discussion with Firefox. Very unstable, but from time to time I succeeded to save the application. (the size of each of the four files is not 400 Mo as mentioned , but 400 K. This means that my 4 files all together have the size of a "low definition" digital picture.)

I agree, it is extremely unstable in firefox, usually using loops is what does it for me - it just freezes and I have to force end the process.


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