Scratch

GoldRock wrote:

Borrego6165 wrote:

if you had played Red Alert before this would make a lot more sense. Have you played Stick War? Watch this preview on youtube. Well, on that game you have at the top an interface. Look to the right of the interface, and you will see a symbol consisting of two little stick men, and a variable next to it with X/20. The X shows how many stick men you have trained so far. The 20, which will always remain the same, shows the maximum number of stick men you can train.

So. In this game, instead of swordsmen, archers, wizards and giants; you can send out soldiers, special and robots. Robots consist of tanks, missile launchers and ray-shooters. That is what a unit is. Something you train or build and send out to battle.

The defences, can be easily programmed like on tower defence games, so if an enemy is close to it will attack back. The major difference is that there is no restricted path the enemy follows, nor is there a "wave" of enemies.

Stick War is epic! 

i originally wanted to make that with DewLeafWolf, but he hasn't come back to scratch yet    we were in the middle of making this epic 3D hospital tycoon game too :'(  anyway, i decided to make Red Alert instead because it seemed simpler.

Borrego6165 wrote:

Karra wrote:

I have an experimental project based on the unit list I proposed earlier in the thread. Should I post it?

erm, to be honest that unit list seemed way too complicated, especially the fact that each unit had something like 20 upgrades or whatever the number was. This game is complicated enough, and I don;t want it getting more complicated than it needs to be. But I'll leave that decision to you because I don't want this to become a dictatorship. If you think you can make it work in the game than sure.

There are no upgrades for each individual unit anymore. The list in this experimental project repeats the following process 20 times: Checks if there are already 20 active units, train/build unit, classify unit (as a soldier, special, tank, missile launcher, or ray shooter), allocate an appropriate amount of health/power to each unit based on size and damage potential. When the 21st repetition comes around, the Scratch Cat (where all the scripts are located) explains that the unit cap has been reached, and thus stops the sequence.

Here's the project, by the way: [RAC] Experimental Unit Creation

Implementing different maximum health/power levels for each different type of unit allows a tank to be able to take more damage than a soldier would, just as a crude example.

All this essentially does is create units. This doesn't take cash limitations; the necessity for barracks (for soldiers & specials) or robot factories (for tanks, missile shooters, and ray shooters); or the specific barracks/factory from which the unit is trained/built. But those omitted criteria (possibly among others) could likely be implemented later if this experimental list makes the cut. This simulation also does not simulate damage taken by units during battle.

The next step concerning this portion of development would be to either:

1. Allow the user to interact with the unit creation mechanism through a system of buttons.
2. Program the unit creation mechanism to work with the existing AI to train/build units based on available resources and desired damage potential (among other bases).

All constructive criticism and suggested improvements are appreciated, whether on the thread or in the project comments.

Borrego6165 wrote:

VERY COOL! welldone. don;t know what to say really other than implement the other things

Thanks! :3

Will do. Expect the player implementation to come out first, as it would simply be a conduit for the player rather than deal with the decision-making of the artificial intelligence.

Bump. Did anybody else make progress with the blue list?

hello? the blue list has to be done by next sunday!!! who's doing what now?

Sorry guys...
I can't do it...

I have so much to do...

Sorry guys, I have been gone the last few days visiting relatives. I've finished the first thing on the list, with the power supplies, and will begin on something else now. I'll look back at the list, and tell you what I'll work on in the next post.

Okay, I've decided I will take the whole blue list if no one else is available. It can be done by Sunday, but I'm gonna hafta double time it.

Borrego6165 wrote:

1) Looks after power supplies
2) Can train soldiers
3) Build a battle lab
4) Upgrade barracks to robot factory
5) Makes loads of robots
6) Checks whether it has reached maximum unit level (of 20 per player)

sonicfan12p wrote:

Okay, I've decided I will take the whole blue list if no one else is available. It can be done by Sunday, but I'm gonna hafta double time it.

You have covered the first criteria, Sonicfan.
I have covered the last criteria.
Criteria #2-5 are still up for grabs.
Training soldiers, building robots, building a battle lab, and upgrading barracks to a robot factory all require a mere command triggered by some changing value. What that value is; whether the AI has progressed enough into the match and has gained enough funds & manpower to handle a robot factory [or a battle lab, for that matter], or whether the AI finds it necessary to train soldiers and build robots because there aren't enough actively fighting units on its side.

The issue I'm having with all of these criteria is that: sure, it wouldn't be a problem to program the artificial intelligence to merely do these tasks; but wouldn't we want it to do them to the best [or perhaps most humanlike] of its ability?

While I may be skipping ahead of the blue list a little bit here... This project would be a great place to employ the wonders of arrays; particularly regarding building placement. If the player's & AI's respective claims of land are rectangular in dimension and can be divvied up into uniformly shaped sections, this would work great!

Understand that I have been quite bogged down with reality at the moment. I'll try to improve upon the sixth criteria, and might begin on the others shortly. I don't expect we'll need two months; in the case we don't, we'll just go on to the black list, hm. c:

Karra wrote:

Borrego6165 wrote:

1) Looks after power supplies
2) Can train soldiers
3) Build a battle lab
4) Upgrade barracks to robot factory
5) Makes loads of robots
6) Checks whether it has reached maximum unit level (of 20 per player)

sonicfan12p wrote:

Okay, I've decided I will take the whole blue list if no one else is available. It can be done by Sunday, but I'm gonna hafta double time it.

You have covered the first criteria, Sonicfan.
I have covered the last criteria.
Criteria #2-5 are still up for grabs.
Training soldiers, building robots, building a battle lab, and upgrading barracks to a robot factory all require a mere command triggered by some changing value. What that value is; whether the AI has progressed enough into the match and has gained enough funds & manpower to handle a robot factory [or a battle lab, for that matter], or whether the AI finds it necessary to train soldiers and build robots because there aren't enough actively fighting units on its side.

The issue I'm having with all of these criteria is that: sure, it wouldn't be a problem to program the artificial intelligence to merely do these tasks; but wouldn't we want it to do them to the best [or perhaps most humanlike] of its ability?

While I may be skipping ahead of the blue list a little bit here... This project would be a great place to employ the wonders of arrays; particularly regarding building placement. If the player's & AI's respective claims of land are rectangular in dimension and can be divvied up into uniformly shaped sections, this would work great!

Understand that I have been quite bogged down with reality at the moment. I'll try to improve upon the sixth criteria, and might begin on the others shortly. I don't expect we'll need two months; in the case we don't, we'll just go on to the black list, hm. c:

I'll try and make this work. In the link I posted a few messages up, i have it set up where the used power keeps increasing to show what the computer would do about it. I saw that building placement was on the black list, so I decided to get the rest of it done first, but if you have a way to make building placement actually make sense, perhaps we could add base defenses into the mix?

don;t forget that if there's something in the blue list that would not work without something in the black list being done first than you can do it    remember, you've got two months and if you look at my Entertainment Inc game you will find how the scrolling windows will work. I do not want you to start on them, there are other things I'll need to sort out before they are made, it's just to give you an idea.

sonicfan12p wrote:

I've got the com. building power plants and the barracks, and I've figured out the robot factory upgrade. Although having the scroller now would be a great help, and possibly save a bit of time, it isn't completely neccessary right now. And I have the money thing worked out, all we need is a way for the com. to make more money.

all it will be is scrollX and scrollY values
i'll make a snap-to grid for the placement of structures

Last edited by Borrego6165 (2012-04-29 02:32:00)

Well, for the money issue; I think that's where the bank structure comes to play. Either that or money slowly generates over time...

Sorry for not contributing as much as I should; facing some hard times right now.