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Spy-TF2 wrote:

laser314 wrote:

I think that it might be like this:
  the normal timeline
           V
____________________________    ____________
                                                  \ /<-Black hole
                              White hole-> / \
__________________________________________

So for every blackhole there is a whitehole and gravity pushes out and ect.

Right!
So flying into a black hole zaps you into the 2nd dimension for a bit and then the Whitehole brings you back out to the 3rd dimension.

That's what I think.

Oh!  Or maybe into any other parallel universe (I hate to induce any sci-fi feelings to the term; what I mean is another universe with the same 3D coordinates as this one, but seperated by the 4th or higher) where white holes spit it out.

Is it entirely far-fetched that eventually, dark matter (you know, and matter, but dark matter is like 90% of the mass in the universe) catches up with dark energy, causing the collapse of the universe with such force that it inverts, giving itself what would be considered a negative mass.  Then white holes pop up connected universes (well, multiverses now) that have the opposite mass, hence antimatter, while the other matter is what we would consider matter (although to one theorizing before or after the collapsing incedent, they would consider it antimatter).

I'm going to take the "fabric of space" analogy too far here:

Gravity causes depressions in the "fabric"; looking on the other side of the "fabric" (parallel universe?) these would be viewed as "lumps"; they wold repulse things on the opposite side of space time.  Conversely, massive objects on the "other" side (the underside/not our side) would create "lumps" on our side, resulting in "dark energy".  Conclusion: dark energy is the gravity of a parallel universe.

@ = something massive (star maybe?)
----- = fabric of space/time

----------_@_----------

From this side, the "valley" caused by the star appears to be a "mountain", repelling all objects away from it.

Of course, this theory only provides for two universes.  Perhaps the gravity in every universe is felt as dark energy in every universe (besides itself).

I don`t believe that travel through a black hole is possible: Under the infinite gravity in it, time would be infinately slowed, so you would never come out of it.

I suppose a parralel universe offers a kind of solution to this, but there are many, many complications also associated with the travel between universes... I think it`s important to note that this is theoretical physics, and there`s one theory or other you can use to argue almost anything...

MoreGamesNow wrote:

I'm going to take the "fabric of space" analogy too far here:

Gravity causes depressions in the "fabric"; looking on the other side of the "fabric" (parallel universe?) these would be viewed as "lumps"; they wold repulse things on the opposite side of space time.  Conversely, massive objects on the "other" side (the underside/not our side) would create "lumps" on our side, resulting in "dark energy".  Conclusion: dark energy is the gravity of a parallel universe.

@ = something massive (star maybe?)
----- = fabric of space/time

----------_@_----------

From this side, the "valley" caused by the star appears to be a "mountain", repelling all objects away from it.

Of course, this theory only provides for two universes.  Perhaps the gravity in every universe is felt as dark energy in every universe (besides itself).

Yeah, ya' just took it too far.

Here is a theory I thought up about parallel universes:

The Sub-Parallel Theory

I think that there is an infinte number of parallel universes, and it grows more each day. Let's start with the start of time, when the first event happened (let's say it was discovering fire) there are supposed to be two possiblities on what the cavemen did when they discovered fire. These are countless, and even more so. As we all know, all parallel universes lead off to different, time-changing events. These too have multiple answers. So alas, come sub-parallel universes, which grow from the alternate possiblilties from parallel universes. This repeats, and soon, we infinite parallel and sub-parallel universes.

Actually, there is a equation of this:
² = or number of parallel and sub-parallel universes
n = events in our universe and parallel and sub-parallel universes.

n² = number of universes

Kileymeister wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:

MY BRAIN IS IMPLODING FROM THE "Grandfather Question". The question is "If you went back in time and killed your grandfather before your father was born would you exist? Or would you even exist in the first place to kill your grandfather? Then would your grandfather die? How would you exist to kill your grandfather in the first place but if you DIDNT exist in the first place why wouldnt you exist if you didnt exist to kill your grandfather in the first place?

The grandfather paradox can be solved if you consider the "multiple universe" theorem, so that two universes are created, one in which you never exist and one in which you do.  Therefore you simply cross from the universe in which you do exist to the one in which you don't.

I'm so happy I'm not a grandfather-murderer.

SplatKirby wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:

MY BRAIN IS IMPLODING FROM THE "Grandfather Question". The question is "If you went back in time and killed your grandfather before your father was born would you exist? Or would you even exist in the first place to kill your grandfather? Then would your grandfather die? How would you exist to kill your grandfather in the first place but if you DIDNT exist in the first place why wouldnt you exist if you didnt exist to kill your grandfather in the first place?

The grandfather paradox can be solved if you consider the "multiple universe" theorem, so that two universes are created, one in which you never exist and one in which you do.  Therefore you simply cross from the universe in which you do exist to the one in which you don't.

I'm so happy I'm not a grandfather-murderer.

lol

wmays wrote:

Here's a thought. Would you kill everyone with overpopulation if you went back in time? For example, you travel back in time 1 second. Then one second later, the old you travels back one second, and this repeats infinitely. Does this sound plausible?

No, because it would erase the first version of you everytime you went through.

Grandfather problem: You would not cease to exist, but nobody but your time traveling companions would know who you are. You would go back in time, so now you exist back in time. Killing your grandfather would cause you to never be born, but since you already exist, you don't just poof out of existence. It would just be like if you never were born, but you are alive already and come from a different past (past? future?) so you are existent. But, you would be going back to a different past/future and so the people there would no nothing of you.

This goes with how time travel works in the book "Pathfinder".

TorbyFork234 wrote:

wmays wrote:

Here's a thought. Would you kill everyone with overpopulation if you went back in time? For example, you travel back in time 1 second. Then one second later, the old you travels back one second, and this repeats infinitely. Does this sound plausible?

No, because it would erase the first version of you everytime you went through.

Why and how would travelling in time erase other things?  And if travelling back in time was erased, then why would you be back in time?  What about that law that by studying objects, one can deduce what happened for every moment in time, even if it's a task above the capacity of human mental capacity?

@TorbyFork234: But then why would your grandfather be dead, and by extension you, meaning that you'd never have killed him.  And if you never killed him, then you would have been born to kill him.  So you would kill him and not be able to be born.  Meaning that you would never kill him.  But then if you didn't kill him, then you would still be alive.  You get the idea.

I don't really understand why people keep challenging these time travel paradoxes, saying that nothing changes.  Must I remind you that there is, in reality, no such thing as free will; everything we do or think is a result of neurology, even if it feels like free will to us.

New theory:
What if what we call time dilation is really inertia in the 4th dimension? Think about it. Massive objects have more inertia, and cause more time dilation. High speeds, related to inertia, also cause time dilation!

agscratcher wrote:

Sorry to necropost, but I have an important question.


Doesn't particle annihilation defy the law of conservation of mass? If so, how is it possible?

Yes, it does. It's impossible to create or remove mass from the universe, therefore it does. If you "destroy" something, all the mass it had still exists, just scattered into sometimes atomic or even subatomic particles, making it hold true to destroying particles: They would break up into smaller particles, which would continue infinitely. Also, a necropost is only really a necropost if the topic hasn't had a post for at least 6 months. This only hasn't had a post for 25 days.

i believe that for every choice you make (i.e what to eat for dinner) a parallel universe is made for each possible choice and and the ability to travel between these would Simulate TIME TRAVEL.. Don't see how lets say that we went to the universe were all of the masterminds who allowed us to have the technology now decided not to because it was CRAZY than we would still be running around with bows doing our hunting..