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#126 2012-04-16 16:39:12

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Re: Theoretical Physics

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Alright, let's discuss...white holes.

YYYYYEEESSSS!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!

I've been wanting to introduce that topic. But you beat me to it.

YOU were waiting? I was the one waiting.


Anyway, I believe that white holes are white because all of the light from a black hole is being expelled from it. In fact, I bet people could mistake white holes for stars.


So, in theory, you could create an artificial sun with a white hole.


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#127 2012-04-16 17:18:18

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Re: Theoretical Physics

agscratcher wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:

agscratcher wrote:

Alright, let's discuss...white holes.

YYYYYEEESSSS!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!

I've been wanting to introduce that topic. But you beat me to it.

YOU were waiting? I was the one waiting.


Anyway, I believe that white holes are white because all of the light from a black hole is being expelled from it. In fact, I bet people could mistake white holes for stars.


So, in theory, you could create an artificial sun with a white hole.


EDIT: Page 6 get

Same for the theory. So, I also think that the light from the black hole is also from a black hole in a different universe, and that the're connected with a wormhole.

How come you get all of the posts on the next pages?


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#128 2012-04-16 18:29:12

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Re: Theoretical Physics

wolvesstar97 wrote:

agscratcher wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:


YYYYYEEESSSS!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!

I've been wanting to introduce that topic. But you beat me to it.

YOU were waiting? I was the one waiting.


Anyway, I believe that white holes are white because all of the light from a black hole is being expelled from it. In fact, I bet people could mistake white holes for stars.


So, in theory, you could create an artificial sun with a white hole.


EDIT: Page 6 get

Same for the theory. So, I also think that the light from the black hole is also from a black hole in a different universe, and that the're connected with a wormhole.

How come you get all of the posts on the next pages?

I get. A lot.


If this topic gets big enough, I hope I get the 404 post.


Anyway, I now realize that white holes aren't that big of a discussion point. Continue on with what you will.


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#129 2012-04-16 19:09:55

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Re: Theoretical Physics

...Whiteholes sound kind of racist/dirty....
then again, some science is pretty dirty. *COUGH*biology*WHEEZE*


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#130 2012-04-16 19:18:07

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Re: Theoretical Physics

Spy-TF2 wrote:

...Whiteholes sound kind of racist/dirty....
then again, some science is pretty dirty. *COUGH*biology*WHEEZE*

How are white holes offensive?  hmm
Why don't you read this before making assumptions?

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#131 2012-04-16 19:30:57

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Re: Theoretical Physics

trinary wrote:

Spy-TF2 wrote:

...Whiteholes sound kind of racist/dirty....
then again, some science is pretty dirty. *COUGH*biology*WHEEZE*

How are white holes offensive?  hmm
Why don't you read this before making assumptions?

It sounds kind of dirty if you're not an astrologist.
I brought up the topic with my dad and he thought I said something erm..... inappropriate.


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#132 2012-04-16 20:16:39

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Re: Theoretical Physics

Spy-TF2 wrote:

trinary wrote:

Spy-TF2 wrote:

...Whiteholes sound kind of racist/dirty....
then again, some science is pretty dirty. *COUGH*biology*WHEEZE*

How are white holes offensive?  hmm
Why don't you read this before making assumptions?

It sounds kind of dirty if you're not an astrologist.
I brought up the topic with my dad and he thought I said something erm..... inappropriate.

dont post then

stop posting if it's not relevant
and biology is not dirty
it is nature.

we are discussing in a professional and scientific matter.

bring your irrevelances
somewhere else
please

now back on topic
all of you.


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#133 2012-04-16 20:41:10

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Re: Theoretical Physics

wow... you made a topic on this?  roll

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#134 2012-04-16 21:02:57

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Re: Theoretical Physics

Anyway, back on topic....

How far does space go?


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#135 2012-04-16 21:07:55

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Re: Theoretical Physics

Haiming wrote:

wow... you made a topic on this?  roll

What's wrong with that?

@spy-tf2-
It's not infinite, as there is multiple universes.


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#136 2012-04-16 21:32:46

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Re: Theoretical Physics

wolvesstar97 wrote:

Haiming wrote:

wow... you made a topic on this?  roll

What's wrong with that?

@spy-tf2-
It's not infinite, as there is multiple universes.

It might be infinite, actually.  Multiple universes are separated in a place called 'hyperspace' which is more than 3 dimensions.  So the could be parallel.  Also, we have reason to believe that space is not infinite, however expanding faster than the speed of light and accelerating, so it's impossible to give an accurate measurement.

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#137 2012-04-16 22:16:19

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Re: Theoretical Physics

maxskywalker wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:

Haiming wrote:

wow... you made a topic on this?  roll

What's wrong with that?

@spy-tf2-
It's not infinite, as there is multiple universes.

It might be infinite, actually.  Multiple universes are separated in a place called 'hyperspace' which is more than 3 dimensions.  So the could be parallel.  Also, we have reason to believe that space is not infinite, however expanding faster than the speed of light and accelerating, so it's impossible to give an accurate measurement.

Oh, yeah, space is infinite, not the universe.


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#138 2012-04-17 00:42:12

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Re: Theoretical Physics

To solve the grandfather Paradox:
If time travel was possible, go back in time and kill your grandfather. Poof, you no longer exist. BUT, this does not mean you can't have killed him, because you did. It doesn't matter if you didn't exist to kill him, he can't come back and suddenly live again. He is dead. So even if you never existed to kill him, he's still dead because (somehow) you killed him and stopped existing.

If you get it, reply!


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#139 2012-04-17 07:19:50

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Re: Theoretical Physics

Happypieman wrote:

To solve the grandfather Paradox:
If time travel was possible, go back in time and kill your grandfather. Poof, you no longer exist. BUT, this does not mean you can't have killed him, because you did. It doesn't matter if you didn't exist to kill him, he can't come back and suddenly live again. He is dead. So even if you never existed to kill him, he's still dead because (somehow) you killed him and stopped existing.

If you get it, reply!

But how can you kill him if you were never born?  The reason that grandfather paradox works is that you kill your grandfather before your father was born, which means that your father was never born, and by extension, you were never born.  It doesn't just kill you.  It makes it so that you were never born, which means that you couldn't have killed him.

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#140 2012-04-17 13:51:54

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Re: Theoretical Physics

Happypieman wrote:

To solve the grandfather Paradox:
If time travel was possible, go back in time and kill your grandfather. Poof, you no longer exist. BUT, this does not mean you can't have killed him, because you did. It doesn't matter if you didn't exist to kill him, he can't come back and suddenly live again. He is dead. So even if you never existed to kill him, he's still dead because (somehow) you killed him and stopped existing.

If you get it, reply!

"BUT, this does not mean you can't have killed him, because you did."; using the same logic, "you can not not exist, because you did".

Your argument that once someone is dead their "soul" is removed from existence (or removed from the paradox) doesn't make sense, at least, if you're only looking at death scientifically.


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#141 2012-04-17 16:10:46

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Re: Theoretical Physics

maxskywalker wrote:

Happypieman wrote:

To solve the grandfather Paradox:
If time travel was possible, go back in time and kill your grandfather. Poof, you no longer exist. BUT, this does not mean you can't have killed him, because you did. It doesn't matter if you didn't exist to kill him, he can't come back and suddenly live again. He is dead. So even if you never existed to kill him, he's still dead because (somehow) you killed him and stopped existing.

If you get it, reply!

But how can you kill him if you were never born?  The reason that grandfather paradox works is that you kill your grandfather before your father was born, which means that your father was never born, and by extension, you were never born.  It doesn't just kill you.  It makes it so that you were never born, which means that you couldn't have killed him.

But there's no way he can just re-live again if you killed him. He's dead, and there's nothing you or anyone can do about it! (The police 'll have a good time trying to figure it out.)


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#142 2012-04-17 18:08:46

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Re: Theoretical Physics

Happypieman wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:

Happypieman wrote:

To solve the grandfather Paradox:
If time travel was possible, go back in time and kill your grandfather. Poof, you no longer exist. BUT, this does not mean you can't have killed him, because you did. It doesn't matter if you didn't exist to kill him, he can't come back and suddenly live again. He is dead. So even if you never existed to kill him, he's still dead because (somehow) you killed him and stopped existing.

If you get it, reply!

But how can you kill him if you were never born?  The reason that grandfather paradox works is that you kill your grandfather before your father was born, which means that your father was never born, and by extension, you were never born.  It doesn't just kill you.  It makes it so that you were never born, which means that you couldn't have killed him.

But there's no way he can just re-live again if you killed him. He's dead, and there's nothing you or anyone can do about it! (The police 'll have a good time trying to figure it out.)

You're not thinking about this enough.  He's not re-living, his killer was never born.  Which means that he never died, which means that his killer WAS born, which means that his killer was NEVER born, and so on.  Can anyone else find a better way to explain this?  And yes, I understand where you've gone awry.

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#143 2012-04-17 22:25:19

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Re: Theoretical Physics

I haven't read through the entire discussion, so maybe someone has already talked about this:

I don't think time travel will ever be possible. Time is the measure events/existence, and is just a man-made measure. In other words, time isn't a thing, it's a somewhat arbitrary measurement. So you can't "go back in time" since it doesn't exists.

Did that make any sense? I have no idea if this is true or not. It's just the result of a lot of thinking.  smile

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#144 2012-04-17 22:32:36

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Re: Theoretical Physics

silvershine wrote:

I haven't read through the entire discussion, so maybe someone has already talked about this:

I don't think time travel will ever be possible. Time is the measure events/existence, and is just a man-made measure. In other words, time isn't a thing, it's a somewhat arbitrary measurement. So you can't "go back in time" since it doesn't exists.

Did that make any sense? I have no idea if this is true or not. It's just the result of a lot of thinking.  smile

Well, time does exist. It is a dimmension. A tesseract is an object in the 4th dimmension.


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#145 2012-04-17 22:42:15

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Re: Theoretical Physics

I think that it might be like this:
  the normal timeline
           V
____________________________    ____________
                                                  \ /<-Black hole
                              White hole-> / \
__________________________________________

So for every blackhole there is a whitehole and gravity pushes out and ect.


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#146 2012-04-17 22:58:57

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Re: Theoretical Physics

wolvesstar97 wrote:

silvershine wrote:

I haven't read through the entire discussion, so maybe someone has already talked about this:

I don't think time travel will ever be possible. Time is the measure events/existence, and is just a man-made measure. In other words, time isn't a thing, it's a somewhat arbitrary measurement. So you can't "go back in time" since it doesn't exists.

Did that make any sense? I have no idea if this is true or not. It's just the result of a lot of thinking.  smile

Well, time does exist. It is a dimmension. A tesseract is an object in the 4th dimmension.

Correction: time is one of the four dimensions.


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#147 2012-04-17 23:05:17

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Re: Theoretical Physics

Laternenpfahl wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:

silvershine wrote:

I haven't read through the entire discussion, so maybe someone has already talked about this:

I don't think time travel will ever be possible. Time is the measure events/existence, and is just a man-made measure. In other words, time isn't a thing, it's a somewhat arbitrary measurement. So you can't "go back in time" since it doesn't exists.

Did that make any sense? I have no idea if this is true or not. It's just the result of a lot of thinking.  smile

Well, time does exist. It is a dimmension. A tesseract is an object in the 4th dimmension.

Correction: time is one of the four dimensions.

Correction: time is one of the 10 dimensions.


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#148 2012-04-17 23:17:41

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Re: Theoretical Physics

MrMonk999 wrote:

Laternenpfahl wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:


Well, time does exist. It is a dimmension. A tesseract is an object in the 4th dimmension.

Correction: time is one of the four dimensions.

Correction: time is one of the 10 dimensions.

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#149 2012-04-18 07:36:34

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Re: Theoretical Physics

laser314 wrote:

I think that it might be like this:
  the normal timeline
           V
____________________________    ____________
                                                  \ /<-Black hole
                              White hole-> / \
__________________________________________

So for every blackhole there is a whitehole and gravity pushes out and ect.

Right!
So flying into a black hole zaps you into the 2nd dimension for a bit and then the Whitehole brings you back out to the 3rd dimension.

That's what I think.


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#150 2012-04-18 09:00:37

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Re: Theoretical Physics

silvershine wrote:

I haven't read through the entire discussion, so maybe someone has already talked about this:

I don't think time travel will ever be possible. Time is the measure events/existence, and is just a man-made measure. In other words, time isn't a thing, it's a somewhat arbitrary measurement. So you can't "go back in time" since it doesn't exists.

Did that make any sense? I have no idea if this is true or not. It's just the result of a lot of thinking.  smile

This is incorrect.  For one thing, there is something called time dilation, which is time travel.  We time travel all the time.  When you move, time passes slower for you.  In other words, you travel into the future.  We just don't notice it because it's such a small amount of motion that we move at (it's a fraction of the speed of light, so pretty much everything we do will be a tiny fraction).  However, it is enough to throw our watches out of sync!

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