Scratch

sparks wrote:

That does look pretty neat, rookwood!

Thanks 

That's okay, I hadn't noticed 

Yes, that's right, I have free time again! For a short while, at least. That's the main reason why this wasn't being worked on, although the horrible SQL problems were also a major factor.

I don't know. I was thinking about this.

On one hand, making it like the Scratch website would be faster (It's already designed) and would make users feel safer when logging in to share blocks, which we want. On the other hand it would be nice to have our own look. Then again, that takes time and effort and there's no guarantee our finished site would look very nice.

Bump...

MathWizz wrote:

Thanks! here

That's great, but honestly, I'd imagined something with radio buttons like this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69615840/submitBlock.htm

sparks wrote:

Sounds interesting, TRocket! There are two things that a mod has to have to be added to the library: firstly it needs to have a seperate coding system to the others (i.e. most Scratch mods can still use the Scratch blocks code syntax in the library wheras the BYOB section caters uniquely for BYOB). Secondly there needs to be a demand from the user base of that mod for blocks that are supported. I'd be happy to add your Jblocks section once it is finished if lots of people are using it and it takes a different type of block input to Scratch, BYOB or Panther. Good luck though, and let me know when it comes out, I'd love to see it!

Hi, sparks,
JBlocks isn't programmed in scratch/squeak-it's programed in java and so will the native blocks.
We need a block library soon since we want version 1 to be able to use it.
If you want you can have the JAR so you can see it working

If you have any questions, comment on one of my projects and i'll give you my email so you can disuss it with me and Zeroluck directly.

TRocket wrote:

sparks wrote:

Sounds interesting, TRocket! There are two things that a mod has to have to be added to the library: firstly it needs to have a seperate coding system to the others (i.e. most Scratch mods can still use the Scratch blocks code syntax in the library wheras the BYOB section caters uniquely for BYOB). Secondly there needs to be a demand from the user base of that mod for blocks that are supported. I'd be happy to add your Jblocks section once it is finished if lots of people are using it and it takes a different type of block input to Scratch, BYOB or Panther. Good luck though, and let me know when it comes out, I'd love to see it!

Hi, sparks,
JBlocks isn't programmed in scratch/squeak-it's programed in java and so will the native blocks.
We need a block library soon since we want version 1 to be able to use it.
If you want you can have the JAR so you can see it working

If you have any questions, comment on one of my projects and i'll give you my email so you can disuss it with me and Zeroluck directly.

In the best interest of the open-source mentality on this site, I'd like to keep discussions open on the forums where possible, if that's okay!

How would users implement new blocks? Would they be able to "install" a block from a file, copy and paste some Java code, or what? It might be cool to at Jblocks support at some time... If you can decide how you want Jblocks to import external custom blocks, we can think about how to include it into a library and then this can be coded into version 1 even if the library doesn't have time to start setting up a Jblocks category yet.

What do other people think about adding Jblocks support?

TRocket wrote:

Greenatic wrote:

TRocket wrote:

Hi, sparks,
JBlocks isn't programmed in scratch/squeak-it's programed in java and so will the native blocks.
We need a block library soon since we want version 1 to be able to use it.
If you want you can have the JAR so you can see it working

If you have any questions, comment on one of my projects and i'll give you my email so you can disuss it with me and Zeroluck directly.

Is it possible to just release a public beta?

It's on the german forum here

Ah. Meinst du nich das das Entwicklungsprobleme kreieren Konten? Vielteich wurde es nicht eine Schlechte Idee sein, eine Englische Version auch zu Schreiben?

Ah. Don't you think that could create development problems? Maybe it would be a good idea to write an english version too?

ZeroLuck wrote:

sparks wrote:

How would users implement new blocks? Would they be able to "install" a block from a file, copy and paste some Java code, or what? It might be cool to at Jblocks support at some time... If you can decide how you want Jblocks to import external custom blocks, we can think about how to include it into a library and then this can be coded into version 1 even if the library doesn't have time to start setting up a Jblocks category yet.

There is a "Make a block" editor like in BYOB.
(You can create your own blocks without Java).
The second kind of blocks are the native ones. They are written in Java.
Both block types will be stored in XML files.
We are planning to include a builtin Block-Lib support. There will be a dialog in which the user can search for blocks made by other users and download them without a web-browser... is the block-lib supporting this?

sparks wrote:

Ah. Don't you think that could create development problems? Maybe it would be a good idea to write an english version too?

JBlocks is in english.
Your german is funny. 

*Sniff* My German is just fine, thank you    I'm Swiss, but man, I've not had to write in German for about a year!

I realise Jblocks is in English from the screen-shot, but I thought you would want to have a documentation thread in English too 

Well it certainly sounds like a neat plan, and I definitely like the fact that you're planning to make the downloadable and installable through files  - I reckon when it comes out I'd be quite happy to add block library support    Keep me posted on development, from what I read you're still pretty far off completion!

Last edited by sparks (2012-04-16 11:18:03)

Okay. So I'm starting work on the site again. (Mostly the admin side for librarians.) I would appreciate constant feedback as I go so feel free to make comments 

Not bad. :3 A bit different. 

I don't think the black text works well straight on the wood background - try putting a box around it or something

sparks wrote:

Okay, thanks for the input!

How about http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22935223/woody2.PNG

Hmm, I'm not sure that I agree with Trocket that contrast is a bad thing... Then again I'm not really an artist, so what do other people think? Should I reduce it? I basically did it cos I wanted a width for the site that most screens can fit (I didn't go 800*600 but went up to the 1024*768). Then I needed some sort of background to that fitting box 

I like the look of this. And yes, sometimes contrast is bad, but I don't think it applies here.