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jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I don't know what you mean by 1/4 inch and 1/16 inch because I use the metric system...

But I really hate plastic 

And I didn't go to dodgy websites. Only websites that I know, and even I did go to dodgy websites on my Mac it wouldn't die on me. It soldiers on... like a Land Rover 

And obviously you've been robbed of your fair opinion by the anti-Mac propaganda.

Macs are not closed systems. They are very open and certainly more so than Windows. OSX is closely related to Linux and is based on the Unix system. A reason why it is so tough.

Applications you make on Mac can be distributed free and open-source or closed, just like in Windows. You can install many open-source applications on Mac. In fact, most applications I use everyday is by choice open-source, and they work fine and look slick just like their paid counterparts.

I do plan on making a Hackintosh soon, because although I like Mac hardware, I want to get some experience in building my own hardware as well.

And yes, it is legal to make a Hackintosh, just like it's legal to jailbreak and torrent [/not a joke, seriously]

Alright.... MS Calc says 1/4 inch is 6.35mm, 1/16 inch is 1.5875mm.

My opinion is completely fair, you have been robbed of your sight of reality by Apple's brainwashings.

The bare kernel (Darwin) is open, but that is it. Everything else Apple touches is as locked down as a maximum security prison.

I didn't say that all Mac apps are paid and closed source. I mean Apple wants you to (and practically forces you to) pay 99 bucks to be an official developer.

For the last time, Mac hardware is EXACTLY the same as PC hardware. They both use parts from AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Broadcom, etc. They are even the same product lines and models. You are better off sticking the Mac internals in a PC (aka real, not blindingly shiny, etc.) case.

How is it locked down any more than Windows?

If you become an official dev, you're an official dev. So what?

You just dev, and you're a dev.

No, Macs are shiny, PC's are usually not. And you forgot how good the monitors are as well. If I do ever build a hackintosh, I'm going to stick it inside an old G5 or Mac Pro case. 

I wrote:

...You are better off sticking the Mac internals in a PC (aka real, not blindingly shiny, etc.) case.

*Insert double facepalm here*

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Please, don't force me to use lmgtfy.

Ever considered the superior GUI of OSX?

Or the fact that it has many web dev tools built in? Including Apache, PHP etc.?

What about the fact that OSX has frozen on me just twice, and only because I was trying to run an unstable version of an application? When Windows 7 freezes weekly, even though it's a new installation (a few weeks old?) and has almost no apps on it, and has full virus protection?

What about the fact that I have to run a scan every now and then?

You are part of a dying race, PC lover.

1: The superiority of a GUI is an opinion, not a fact. I could say that Aero kicks the butt of OS X's GUI, but that doesn't necessarily make it fact.

2: If you need those web dev tools, download them. If you don't need them, they are just taking up space.

3: Win 7 only freezes when I take it out of sleep mode, and find I left MC and Chrome (with 30+ tabs) open. That is not it's fault though, Java hates sleep mode. 

4: It is a good idea to run a regularly scheduled scan on any computer. Mac isn't immune to viruses, recently events have shown that, and jarred most Mac users into the reality that viruses can strike any computer, even if it uses a super obscure OS with Pentagon-worthy security.

5: Oh really, PC users are a dying race? The latest statistics show Windows with about 75-80% market share, and OS X hovering just under 10%. That has been fairly stable for several years. We ain't going nowhere, delusional Apple-brainwash victim.

1.    You seriously do not know GUI. Windows Aero is Tawdry. Does it have expose? Does it have spaces? Does it have a dock? A menu bar? Is it minimalistic?

Windows software reminds me of PC hardware. Plastic. Cheap plastic.

And ribbon is disgusting.

2. And how do you install terminal on Windows may I ask? Sure there are mimics but the real terminal?

3. Surely you're not saying that Windows doesn't freeze? 

4. Which is why I do scan my Mac every now and then, for Windows viruses, that I might accidentally pass on to friends that use Windows. Technically there are no Mac viruses, only malware. And even those are once in a blue moon... or aqua moon 

5. Ahem.

1. That's your opinionnnnnnnnn
2. Cygwinnnnnnnnnnnn/KDEEEEEEEEEEEEE (not the real Mac terminal but Macs can't have the real Windows command line eitherrrrrrrrrr)
3. It generally doesn'ttttttttttt
4. There are actual Mac virusesssssssssss
5. Yeah it is rising because of schools mostlyyyyyyyyyyyy

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Please, don't force me to use lmgtfy.

Ever considered the superior GUI of OSX?

Or the fact that it has many web dev tools built in? Including Apache, PHP etc.?

What about the fact that OSX has frozen on me just twice, and only because I was trying to run an unstable version of an application? When Windows 7 freezes weekly, even though it's a new installation (a few weeks old?) and has almost no apps on it, and has full virus protection?

What about the fact that I have to run a scan every now and then?

You are part of a dying race, PC lover.

1: The superiority of a GUI is an opinion, not a fact. I could say that Aero kicks the butt of OS X's GUI, but that doesn't necessarily make it fact.

2: If you need those web dev tools, download them. If you don't need them, they are just taking up space.

3: Win 7 only freezes when I take it out of sleep mode, and find I left MC and Chrome (with 30+ tabs) open. That is not it's fault though, Java hates sleep mode. 

4: It is a good idea to run a regularly scheduled scan on any computer. Mac isn't immune to viruses, recently events have shown that, and jarred most Mac users into the reality that viruses can strike any computer, even if it uses a super obscure OS with Pentagon-worthy security.

5: Oh really, PC users are a dying race? The latest statistics show Windows with about 75-80% market share, and OS X hovering just under 10%. That has been fairly stable for several years. We ain't going nowhere, delusional Apple-brainwash victim.

1.    You seriously do not know GUI. Windows Aero is Tawdry. Does it have expose? Does it have spaces? Does it have a dock? A menu bar? Is it minimalistic?

Windows software reminds me of PC hardware. Plastic. Cheap plastic.

And ribbon is disgusting.

2. And how do you install terminal on Windows may I ask? Sure there are mimics but the real terminal?

3. Surely you're not saying that Windows doesn't freeze? 

4. Which is why I do scan my Mac every now and then, for Windows viruses, that I might accidentally pass on to friends that use Windows. Technically there are no Mac viruses, only malware. And even those are once in a blue moon... or aqua moon 

5. Ahem.

1: Just because it doesn't have all these useless Apple GUI widgets that I do not care about (or know what they are) doesn't mean it is crud. I was trying to say that the little differences in a GUI don't matter.

2: PuTTY and Command Line. A perfect combination of chocolate and peanut butter.

3: I am not, and surely you aren't saying OS X doesn't freeze.

4: A virus is a kind of malware.

5: Ahem.

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:

1: The superiority of a GUI is an opinion, not a fact. I could say that Aero kicks the butt of OS X's GUI, but that doesn't necessarily make it fact.

2: If you need those web dev tools, download them. If you don't need them, they are just taking up space.

3: Win 7 only freezes when I take it out of sleep mode, and find I left MC and Chrome (with 30+ tabs) open. That is not it's fault though, Java hates sleep mode. 

4: It is a good idea to run a regularly scheduled scan on any computer. Mac isn't immune to viruses, recently events have shown that, and jarred most Mac users into the reality that viruses can strike any computer, even if it uses a super obscure OS with Pentagon-worthy security.

5: Oh really, PC users are a dying race? The latest statistics show Windows with about 75-80% market share, and OS X hovering just under 10%. That has been fairly stable for several years. We ain't going nowhere, delusional Apple-brainwash victim.

1.    You seriously do not know GUI. Windows Aero is Tawdry. Does it have expose? Does it have spaces? Does it have a dock? A menu bar? Is it minimalistic?

Windows software reminds me of PC hardware. Plastic. Cheap plastic.

And ribbon is disgusting.

2. And how do you install terminal on Windows may I ask? Sure there are mimics but the real terminal?

3. Surely you're not saying that Windows doesn't freeze? 

4. Which is why I do scan my Mac every now and then, for Windows viruses, that I might accidentally pass on to friends that use Windows. Technically there are no Mac viruses, only malware. And even those are once in a blue moon... or aqua moon 

5. Ahem.

1: Just because it doesn't have all these useless Apple GUI widgets that I do not care about (or know what they are) doesn't mean it is crud. I was trying to say that the little differences in a GUI don't matter.

2: PuTTY and Command Line. A perfect combination of chocolate and peanut butter.

3: I am not, and surely you aren't saying OS X doesn't freeze.

4: A virus is a kind of malware.

5: Ahem.

Who cares, Aqua pwns.

That's not terminal >.<

It's only frozon twice in it's lifetime, and only because I was running an unstable app >.<

Yes, but malware doesn't neccesarily mean virus. A virus reproduces itself. Malware includes worms, trojans, viruses etc.

That doesn't show how much OSX has grown.

@WindozeNT I agree with your final point, but keep in mind that Windows has frozen at least 30 times more than OSX, on the same machine. And OSX gets used much more on that machine, and is a much older installation. Windows was a new installation.

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

1.    You seriously do not know GUI. Windows Aero is Tawdry. Does it have expose? Does it have spaces? Does it have a dock? A menu bar? Is it minimalistic?

Windows software reminds me of PC hardware. Plastic. Cheap plastic.

And ribbon is disgusting.

2. And how do you install terminal on Windows may I ask? Sure there are mimics but the real terminal?

3. Surely you're not saying that Windows doesn't freeze? 

4. Which is why I do scan my Mac every now and then, for Windows viruses, that I might accidentally pass on to friends that use Windows. Technically there are no Mac viruses, only malware. And even those are once in a blue moon... or aqua moon 

5. Ahem.

1: Just because it doesn't have all these useless Apple GUI widgets that I do not care about (or know what they are) doesn't mean it is crud. I was trying to say that the little differences in a GUI don't matter.

2: PuTTY and Command Line. A perfect combination of chocolate and peanut butter.

3: I am not, and surely you aren't saying OS X doesn't freeze.

4: A virus is a kind of malware.

5: Ahem.

Who cares, Aqua pwns.

That's not terminal >.<

It's only frozon twice in it's lifetime, and only because I was running an unstable app >.<

Yes, but malware doesn't neccesarily mean virus. A virus reproduces itself. Malware includes worms, trojans, viruses etc.

That doesn't show how much OSX has grown.

@WindozeNT I agree with your final point, but keep in mind that Windows has frozen at least 30 times more than OSX, on the same machine. And OSX gets used much more on that machine, and is a much older installation. Windows was a new installation.

Could say "Who cares, Aero pwns". Still an opinion.

They are both terminals, even though they don't have the same name as the Apple one. I know you find this hard to believe, but something on Windows can be just as good or better than the Mac version, even if it doesn't have the same name.

It doesn't show how much OSX has grown because it hasn't grown.

Last edited by fire219 (2012-03-20 20:36:06)

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Who cares, Aqua pwns.

That's not terminal >.<

It's only frozon twice in it's lifetime, and only because I was running an unstable app >.<

Yes, but malware doesn't neccesarily mean virus. A virus reproduces itself. Malware includes worms, trojans, viruses etc.

That doesn't show how much OSX has grown.

@WindozeNT I agree with your final point, but keep in mind that Windows has frozen at least 30 times more than OSX, on the same machine. And OSX gets used much more on that machine, and is a much older installation. Windows was a new installation.

Could say "Who cares, Aero pwns". Still an opinion.

They are both terminals, even though they don't have the same name as the Apple one. I know you find this hard to believe, but something on Windows can be just as good or better than the Mac version, even if it doesn't have the same name.

It doesn't show how much OSX has grown because it hasn't grown.

Terminal has different commands and is based on the Unix.

Ever tried to ping an address with command-line?

Or watch a telnet? I can watch an ASCII animation of Star Wars a New Hope, can you?

That website doesn't show how anything has grown >.<

The website I showed you shows how Windows XP is getting replaced by Win 7 and Vista has never had much of a majority, and OSX is taking over, albeit slowly, and Linux is also growing.

OSX isn't taking over, but it is growing.

And you can ping on the Windows command line, and PuTTY is a Telnet client. So uh that pretty much covers it.

fire219 wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Terminal has different commands and is based on the Unix.

Ever tried to ping an address with command-line?

Or watch a telnet? I can watch an ASCII animation of Star Wars a New Hope, can you?

That website doesn't show how anything has grown >.<

The website I showed you shows how Windows XP is getting replaced by Win 7 and Vista has never had much of a majority, and OSX is taking over, albeit slowly, and Linux is also growing.

OSX isn't taking over, but it is growing.

And you can ping on the Windows command line, and PuTTY is a Telnet client. So uh that pretty much covers it.

Veggie, you deserve a cookie of you flavor of choice. What would you like? 

Snickerdoodle, please.

veggieman001 wrote:

fire219 wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

OSX isn't taking over, but it is growing.

And you can ping on the Windows command line, and PuTTY is a Telnet client. So uh that pretty much covers it.

Veggie, you deserve a cookie of you flavor of choice. What would you like? 

Snickerdoodle, please.

Here you go. *gives veggie snickerdoodle cookie* 

It doesn't show how much OSX has grown because it hasn't grown.

Actually, it shows that it has grown much so. However it does prove your original point of Macs taking up 10% of the market.

@jji7skyline: yes, actually. My WinXP and Win7 both have telnet, although it is strangely absent on LoseVista. (do u see wut I did dere?) Although I don't have much experience with MacOS X.X, I can definitely get behind their hardware. When I think of plastic, I immediately think "cheap." You can easily argue that looks isn't worth everything (especially the extreme price tag) and many would agree with you. I am DISGUSTED that Apple is getting away with selling a 64GB SSD and 2GB RAM for $999. However, I would rather have a nice thin, good looking ultraportable for three times as much as a cheap, quite pathetic netbook that can hardly run a flash game.

I really see no point in making a terminal return the exact string that you typed immediately after. The only real use is in a Batch script.

I meant say it as in say it 

If you type say hello in terminal, it will actually say it 

I am shaking in the superiority of OS X.X

WindozeNT wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I meant say it as in say it 

If you type say hello in terminal, it will actually say it 

What's so special about that? It can be done in almost every OS in existance, using the echo or print command.

He means that it actually speaks the words.

Yesh... is that hard to understand?