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#1 2012-03-15 18:35:28

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Upgrading the laptop at last :P

You may or may not know my family has an old laptop lying around crumbling away... pretty good when we bought it. About $2000.

It's running XP Home Basic...

And we've decided to upgrade it's measly 192MB of RAM to 1GB  big_smile

It's a Pentium 4 so it'll be pretty fast after we upgrade it.

I found 512MB compatible RAM for $12 each at eBay so it will be a pretty cheap upgrade.

Anything else we can upgrade cheaply/easily?

Oh, and will upgrading to XP professional (I have a copy of it) make it any faster?


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#2 2012-03-15 18:37:45

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

Will you be gaming again after this?


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#3 2012-03-15 18:42:49

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

bananaman114 wrote:

Will you be gaming again after this?

Wut? No.

Except little bits of MC.

That isn't my computer anyway, my dad will be using it.

I have a quad-core i5 :3


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#4 2012-03-15 18:48:42

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

The laptop might not support that much RAM if it is old enough to come with 192MB standard. Check that before you get a stick or 2 of RAM that won't work.


Also, I don't think that XP Professional would help speed, but it would make the PC more secure (XP isn't particularly secure, but Pro is a bit better than Home Edition in that area).


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#5 2012-03-15 18:50:31

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

fire219 wrote:

The laptop might not support that much RAM if it is old enough to come with 192MB standard. Check that before you get a stick or 2 of RAM that won't work.


Also, I don't think that XP Professional would help speed, but it would make the PC more secure (XP isn't particularly secure, but Pro is a bit better than Home Edition in that area).

I've already checked. It supports a max of 2 512MB RAMs.  tongue

I didn't know that XP Pro was more secure... I might reinstall with XP Pro  big_smile


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#6 2012-03-16 01:39:21

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

bump


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#7 2012-03-16 05:52:41

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

Upgrade to Windows 7.  wink

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#8 2012-03-16 08:18:29

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

scimonster wrote:

Upgrade to Windows 7.  wink

and murder the computer in the process.
Well, Here's my saga that resulted in two replacements and in truth, much knowledge gained.

Code:

Original specs:

Sony VAIO pcg-v505bl
40GB hard drive
256MB RAM
18MB ATI graphics card
Windows XP Home
CD drive
etc.


Installed "D" Small Linux on original HD

Computer would not boot back into Windows, having a BSOD error when starting recovery mode

Attempted to transfer files off of HD via a cable, did not even start spinning

Replaced HD with a newer 20GB, installed "D" Small Linux again

*A summer passed, in which I tried to install Ubuntu, but not enough RAM*

Came back to school, computer teacher helped me add another 256MB RAM stick adding up to 512MB total

Installed Ubuntu 11.04, enjoyed it :D

Updated to Ubuntu 11.10, was too slow

Installed XP Pro, now to current

Installed original manufacturer's programs

Well, I learned a lot about computers in the process. Also, as I said in the timeline, I actually INSTALLED the original manufacturer's programs, like drivers and things. I did NOT install bloatware, just things that were lost during the re-installation process, such as use of the Fn keys (main reason), battery controllers, and scrolling on the tracpad.


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#9 2012-03-16 09:33:38

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

$2000!!!!!!!

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#10 2012-03-16 09:40:10

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

turkey3 wrote:

$2000!!!!!!!

Trust me, that's nothing for an old computer. Especially for a laptop, where they need to make it smaller and portable, a problem not necessary with a desktop.


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#11 2012-03-16 09:50:58

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

scimonster wrote:

Upgrade to Windows 7.  wink

Uhhh it's a lot slower


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#12 2012-03-16 21:46:20

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

veggieman001 wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Upgrade to Windows 7.  wink

Uhhh it's a lot slower

+1.


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#13 2012-03-17 12:04:57

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

I recommend you upgrade to Puppy linux. It's supposed to be really fast because the whole OS can fit in memory. [Note: I used a URL shortener and so that the link could not possibly used as an SEO advantage to the people who made puppy linux.]


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#14 2012-03-17 12:42:42

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

zippynk wrote:

I recommend you upgrade to Puppy linux. It's supposed to be really fast because the whole OS can fit in memory. [Note: I used a URL shortener and so that the link could not possibly used as an SEO advantage to the people who made puppy linux.]

Err, what about SEO? Anyway, I would recommend that IF you go Linux, you go for a more common distro such as Lubuntu or Xubuntu, Linux Mint, or Fedora. I used "Darn" Small Linux for a little while thinking that it would be an advantage, but there were no drivers for my Internet card. The computer was basically useless until I changed over to Ubuntu. Trust me, in a stripped-down OS like that, if you can't even get on the 'net, it's worthless. You can't download apps or anything. If you have the HDD space, I recommend dual booting XP and your choice of Linux. Or make a Hackintosh  tongue


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#15 2012-03-18 18:37:40

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

16Skittles wrote:

zippynk wrote:

I recommend you upgrade to Puppy linux. It's supposed to be really fast because the whole OS can fit in memory. [Note: I used a URL shortener and so that the link could not possibly used as an SEO advantage to the people who made puppy linux.]

Err, what about SEO? Anyway, I would recommend that IF you go Linux, you go for a more common distro such as Lubuntu or Xubuntu, Linux Mint, or Fedora. I used "Darn" Small Linux for a little while thinking that it would be an advantage, but there were no drivers for my Internet card. The computer was basically useless until I changed over to Ubuntu. Trust me, in a stripped-down OS like that, if you can't even get on the 'net, it's worthless. You can't download apps or anything. If you have the HDD space, I recommend dual booting XP and your choice of Linux. Or make a Hackintosh  tongue

I would have liked to install kubuntu, but sadly, my dad wants to keep it XP  tongue


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#16 2012-03-18 18:44:22

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

Can i use puppylinux on a mac? im not an admin

it must be on flash drive

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#17 2012-03-18 18:49:46

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

Laternenpfahl wrote:

Can i use puppylinux on a mac? im not an admin

it must be on flash drive

Sure! Just reboot the computer while holding down the option key.

Wait for your USB to show up on the screen. Use the arrow keys and enter key to select your USB drive to start up from.

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Dual-booting is best on a Mac :3


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#18 2012-03-18 18:51:18

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

zippynk wrote:

I recommend you upgrade to Puppy linux. It's supposed to be really fast because the whole OS can fit in memory. [Note: I used a URL shortener and so that the link could not possibly used as an SEO advantage to the people who made puppy linux.]

Err, what about SEO? Anyway, I would recommend that IF you go Linux, you go for a more common distro such as Lubuntu or Xubuntu, Linux Mint, or Fedora. I used "Darn" Small Linux for a little while thinking that it would be an advantage, but there were no drivers for my Internet card. The computer was basically useless until I changed over to Ubuntu. Trust me, in a stripped-down OS like that, if you can't even get on the 'net, it's worthless. You can't download apps or anything. If you have the HDD space, I recommend dual booting XP and your choice of Linux. Or make a Hackintosh  tongue

I would have liked to install kubuntu, but sadly, my dad wants to keep it XP  tongue

Kubuntu is truly beautiful. Still, many people like to stick with what they know and love, and just *can't* leave. *coughmacuserscough*  tongue  (and before you say anything about me being a stubborn windows user, note that I have used Linux, and that the laptop I currently drool over is the 13" MBA [dual booting OSX and Win8, of course])

But it is really important to try and find manufacturer software on their web site. Without it, I wouldn't have scrolling, FN key usage, or many other things.


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#19 2012-03-18 18:53:40

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

jji7skyline wrote:

Laternenpfahl wrote:

Can i use puppylinux on a mac? im not an admin

it must be on flash drive

Sure! Just reboot the computer while holding down the option key.

Wait for your USB to show up on the screen. Use the arrow keys and enter key to select your USB drive to start up from.

smile

Dual-booting is best on a Mac :3

I know that.

Why?

I <3 option+shift+k


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#20 2012-03-18 18:54:16

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:


Err, what about SEO? Anyway, I would recommend that IF you go Linux, you go for a more common distro such as Lubuntu or Xubuntu, Linux Mint, or Fedora. I used "Darn" Small Linux for a little while thinking that it would be an advantage, but there were no drivers for my Internet card. The computer was basically useless until I changed over to Ubuntu. Trust me, in a stripped-down OS like that, if you can't even get on the 'net, it's worthless. You can't download apps or anything. If you have the HDD space, I recommend dual booting XP and your choice of Linux. Or make a Hackintosh  tongue

I would have liked to install kubuntu, but sadly, my dad wants to keep it XP  tongue

Kubuntu is truly beautiful. Still, many people like to stick with what they know and love, and just *can't* leave. *coughmacuserscough*  tongue  (and before you say anything about me being a stubborn windows user, note that I have used Linux, and that the laptop I currently drool over is the 13" MBA [dual booting OSX and Win8, of course])

But it is really important to try and find manufacturer software on their web site. Without it, I wouldn't have scrolling, FN key usage, or many other things.

Whatever OS you run, a Mac is the best computer to run it on.

Sleek OS switching.

100% working drivers from Apple for Windows.

Top Notch quality  smile

Mac users not liking to switch to other OSs is because of the supremeness of OSX  tongue

I dual boot OSX and Win7. Used to dual boot OSX Lion and Snow leopard. Before that I dual booted OSX and Windows 8...

I HATE metro start menu :'(


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#21 2012-03-18 19:09:40

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:


I would have liked to install kubuntu, but sadly, my dad wants to keep it XP  tongue

Kubuntu is truly beautiful. Still, many people like to stick with what they know and love, and just *can't* leave. *coughmacuserscough*  tongue  (and before you say anything about me being a stubborn windows user, note that I have used Linux, and that the laptop I currently drool over is the 13" MBA [dual booting OSX and Win8, of course])

But it is really important to try and find manufacturer software on their web site. Without it, I wouldn't have scrolling, FN key usage, or many other things.

Whatever OS you run, a Mac is the best computer to run it on.

Sleek OS switching.

100% working drivers from Apple for Windows.

Top Notch quality  smile

Mac users not liking to switch to other OSs is because of the supremeness of OSX  tongue

I dual boot OSX and Win7. Used to dual boot OSX Lion and Snow leopard. Before that I dual booted OSX and Windows 8...

I HATE metro start menu :'(

Lol you're a Mac user, any opinion on the Air vs. Pro debate, lol? [/offtopic]


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#22 2012-03-18 19:21:13

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:


Kubuntu is truly beautiful. Still, many people like to stick with what they know and love, and just *can't* leave. *coughmacuserscough*  tongue  (and before you say anything about me being a stubborn windows user, note that I have used Linux, and that the laptop I currently drool over is the 13" MBA [dual booting OSX and Win8, of course])

But it is really important to try and find manufacturer software on their web site. Without it, I wouldn't have scrolling, FN key usage, or many other things.

Whatever OS you run, a Mac is the best computer to run it on.

Sleek OS switching.

100% working drivers from Apple for Windows.

Top Notch quality  smile

Mac users not liking to switch to other OSs is because of the supremeness of OSX  tongue

I dual boot OSX and Win7. Used to dual boot OSX Lion and Snow leopard. Before that I dual booted OSX and Windows 8...

I HATE metro start menu :'(

Lol you're a Mac user, any opinion on the Air vs. Pro debate, lol? [/offtopic]

I think they're gonna make a thinner version of the pro as the "all-new macbook" and replaace the cd drive on the pro with a seperate grapics card

I hope.

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#23 2012-03-19 01:06:44

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

Laternenpfahl wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:


Whatever OS you run, a Mac is the best computer to run it on.

Sleek OS switching.

100% working drivers from Apple for Windows.

Top Notch quality  smile

Mac users not liking to switch to other OSs is because of the supremeness of OSX  tongue

I dual boot OSX and Win7. Used to dual boot OSX Lion and Snow leopard. Before that I dual booted OSX and Windows 8...

I HATE metro start menu :'(

Lol you're a Mac user, any opinion on the Air vs. Pro debate, lol? [/offtopic]

I think they're gonna make a thinner version of the pro as the "all-new macbook" and replaace the cd drive on the pro with a seperate grapics card

I hope.

</wishfulthinking>

The air is a useful computer in my opinion.

It is thin and portable, has a SSD and is overall cool.

So if you need a proper portable computer, without forsaking performance or style, the air is the way to go.

The macbook pro is a good all-rounder. Not as much performance as the iMac series, but has the pro of being relatively portable.

I have an iMac. If I got a second computer it would be an air, because it does things that my iMac wouldn't do.

The Air is a good second computer.

If you needed the best of both worlds (performance+portability) the pro is a good option.

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#24 2012-03-19 09:43:41

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:


I would have liked to install kubuntu, but sadly, my dad wants to keep it XP  tongue

Kubuntu is truly beautiful. Still, many people like to stick with what they know and love, and just *can't* leave. *coughmacuserscough*  tongue  (and before you say anything about me being a stubborn windows user, note that I have used Linux, and that the laptop I currently drool over is the 13" MBA [dual booting OSX and Win8, of course])

But it is really important to try and find manufacturer software on their web site. Without it, I wouldn't have scrolling, FN key usage, or many other things.

Whatever OS you run, a Mac is the best computer to run it on.

Sleek OS switching.

100% working drivers from Apple for Windows.

Top Notch quality  smile

Mac users not liking to switch to other OSs is because of the supremeness of OSX  tongue

I dual boot OSX and Win7. Used to dual boot OSX Lion and Snow leopard. Before that I dual booted OSX and Windows 8...

I HATE metro start menu :'(

You can't really customise Macs at all though.


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#25 2012-03-19 09:47:30

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Re: Upgrading the laptop at last :P

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:


Kubuntu is truly beautiful. Still, many people like to stick with what they know and love, and just *can't* leave. *coughmacuserscough*  tongue  (and before you say anything about me being a stubborn windows user, note that I have used Linux, and that the laptop I currently drool over is the 13" MBA [dual booting OSX and Win8, of course])

But it is really important to try and find manufacturer software on their web site. Without it, I wouldn't have scrolling, FN key usage, or many other things.

Whatever OS you run, a Mac is the best computer to run it on.

Sleek OS switching.

100% working drivers from Apple for Windows.

Top Notch quality  smile

Mac users not liking to switch to other OSs is because of the supremeness of OSX  tongue

I dual boot OSX and Win7. Used to dual boot OSX Lion and Snow leopard. Before that I dual booted OSX and Windows 8...

I HATE metro start menu :'(

You can't really customise Macs at all though.

Software yes, hardware kinda.


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