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#51 2012-03-05 21:17:45

Luke121
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Re: Are Video Games Art?

brettman98 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

brettman98 wrote:


then are violent books not art too?
or how about violent images?

They are a form of art I detest  neutral

some violence can teach us morals, but violence is not a pleasant form of art.

I can see this argument working.

Very sturdy middle-ground opinion.


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#52 2012-03-05 22:49:48

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

Luke121 wrote:

Dinoclor wrote:

Luke121 wrote:


Name a game you'd consider art.



But don't mention any shooters. Because then I'd have to laugh at you.

And then I'd get in twubble. :c

There are a lot of games I consider art.
Mainly flash games made by relatively unknown developers.
I agree.
Shooters are not art and can never be art.

Agreed. Sure, they can have artful GRAPHICS, but there's nothing artsy about lighting people up.

Well, there could be SOME good shooters that are innovative, fun, have a good story, etc. I just don't know what they are. If there's something artsy about a snow shovel (A REAL ART THING I SAW AT A REAL ART MUSEUM IN CANADA. JUST HANGING ON THE CEILING.), there COULD be something artsy about shooters.


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#53 2012-03-05 22:52:23

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

Actually I don't understand how a lot of things considered art are art at all


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#54 2012-03-05 22:53:14

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

NeilWest wrote:

You need to play Flower. So beautiful!

Oh my gosh, I want that game so much. Have you ever played Flow? It's right here and it's GORGEOUS. Same with a lot of Orisinal games.


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#55 2012-03-05 22:53:41

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

Wickimen wrote:

Actually I don't understand how a lot of things considered art are art at all

+1

Some art forms are just stupid. Modern art being the main example. What's artful about broken glass?


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#56 2012-03-05 22:55:59

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

jji7skyline wrote:

Wickimen wrote:

Actually I don't understand how a lot of things considered art are art at all

+1

Some art forms are just stupid. Modern art being the main example. What's artful about broken glass?

Some modern art is OK. Others are just... stupid. Especially readymades.


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#57 2012-03-05 23:03:59

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

jji7skyline wrote:

Wickimen wrote:

Actually I don't understand how a lot of things considered art are art at all

+1

Some art forms are just stupid. Modern art being the main example. What's artful about broken glass?

you need to look into it... that's expression.
think about how it can emotionally connect into how the artist could have been feeling... most artwork like that is a sort of metaphor
broken glass could work really well as like lost love or social commentary


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#58 2012-03-05 23:07:49

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

It depends on how you view art.


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#59 2012-03-06 06:29:02

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

dear ester if u havent seen it watch a playthru on youtybe


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#60 2012-03-06 11:10:43

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

I think this person is missing the point on video games being art (He's probably one of those guys who think that graphic novels also aren't art.)

Art is something that is not immediatly clear to you. Frankly, anything can be art. Just look at the graphic novels in your library. There are books there who break the fourth wall. Sometimes they don't use words because they are not needed. It's really not all that hard to see whats art and whats not. Art sets your mind thinking, DC comics that tell a story and thats it are not art. (No offense to DC.) If you want a good example of art, just read this word:     Portal. 'Nuff said.


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#61 2012-03-06 11:12:14

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

jji7skyline wrote:

Wickimen wrote:

Actually I don't understand how a lot of things considered art are art at all

+1

Some art forms are just stupid. Modern art being the main example. What's artful about broken glass?

I never got modern art anyways.  tongue


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#62 2012-03-06 11:12:17

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

just because something breaks the fourth wall doesn't mean it's art


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#63 2012-03-06 11:14:31

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

luiysia wrote:

NeilWest wrote:

You need to play Flower. So beautiful!

Oh my gosh, I want that game so much. Have you ever played Flow? It's right here and it's GORGEOUS. Same with a lot of Orisinal games.

Yeah, I have the PlayStation Network version.

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#64 2012-03-06 14:26:00

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

soupoftomato wrote:

GameHutSoftware wrote:

someone needs to play skyward sword

Or Minecraft
Or Skyrim
Or Super Mario Bros
Or Bit.Trip
Or Kirby
Or Tetris.

Or Minecraft
Or Skyrim
Or Minecraft
Or Super Mario Bros
Or Minecraft
Or Bit.Trip
Or Minecraft
Or Kirby
Or Minecraft
Or Tetris.
fixed it for you.


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#65 2012-03-06 17:28:56

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

ATVR9999 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

GameHutSoftware wrote:

someone needs to play skyward sword

Or Minecraft
Or Skyrim
Or Super Mario Bros
Or Bit.Trip
Or Kirby
Or Tetris.

Or Minecraft
Or Skyrim
Or Minecraft
Or Super Mario Bros
Or Minecraft
Or Bit.Trip
Or Minecraft
Or Kirby
Or Minecraft
Or Tetris.
fixed it for you.

The sooner we stop completely worshiping Minecraft the sooner we realize that Notch and Jeb aren't amazing Gods anymore than Minecraft is some sort of mystical game.


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#66 2012-03-06 17:40:33

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

soupoftomato wrote:

ATVR9999 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


Or Minecraft
Or Skyrim
Or Super Mario Bros
Or Bit.Trip
Or Kirby
Or Tetris.

Or Minecraft
Or Skyrim
Or Minecraft
Or Super Mario Bros
Or Minecraft
Or Bit.Trip
Or Minecraft
Or Kirby
Or Minecraft
Or Tetris.
fixed it for you.

The sooner we stop completely worshiping Minecraft the sooner we realize that Notch and Jeb aren't amazing Gods anymore than Minecraft is some sort of mystical game.

The became millionaires over a college project.

That's pretty amazing.


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#67 2012-03-06 17:49:00

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

Luke121 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

ATVR9999 wrote:


Or Minecraft
Or Skyrim
Or Minecraft
Or Super Mario Bros
Or Minecraft
Or Bit.Trip
Or Minecraft
Or Kirby
Or Minecraft
Or Tetris.
fixed it for you.

The sooner we stop completely worshiping Minecraft the sooner we realize that Notch and Jeb aren't amazing Gods anymore than Minecraft is some sort of mystical game.

The became millionaires over a college project.

That's pretty amazing.

I said amazing Gods.

Yes, they made a video game.
Yes, they made a good and popular video game.

No that game is not the only one we should be shoving down people's throats nor should we worship the creators.

And, lolwut, college project? The story of how it started is getting very distorted it seems.


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#68 2012-03-06 18:02:01

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

soupoftomato wrote:

Luke121 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

The sooner we stop completely worshiping Minecraft the sooner we realize that Notch and Jeb aren't amazing Gods anymore than Minecraft is some sort of mystical game.

The became millionaires over a college project.

That's pretty amazing.

I said amazing Gods.

Yes, they made a video game.
Yes, they made a good and popular video game.

No that game is not the only one we should be shoving down people's throats nor should we worship the creators.

And, lolwut, college project? The story of how it started is getting very distorted it seems.

idk

No one was shoving MC down your throat. It's a topic for people to post their OPINIONS on. You should have known Minecraft would come up eventually.

If any game is being shoved down on throats on a daily basis it's Mass Effect 3.

I mean CMON! There was even two posts about it on EQD! Not to mention every other stinking site on the internet. Why?!

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#69 2012-03-06 18:03:47

bananaman114
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Re: Are Video Games Art?

ShotgunSam wrote:

the article was written in like 2010
the gamees back there were bad

"back there?"
seriously that was only two years ago.
and uh yeah sure some games from 2010 were bad bad bad! but some were alright
but to be honest I don't give a flying [removed] about when a game came out. I just play it.

anyway i dunno how i would define art- I just know what i feel is and isn't art.

To [removed] with it though- even Call of Duty could be considered art in some respects.
A glimpse of the dystopia and destruction that our society will succumb to if wars continue to rage the way they do.

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#70 2012-03-06 18:04:15

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

soupoftomato wrote:

Luke121 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

The sooner we stop completely worshiping Minecraft the sooner we realize that Notch and Jeb aren't amazing Gods anymore than Minecraft is some sort of mystical game.

The became millionaires over a college project.

That's pretty amazing.

I mean CMON! There was even two posts about it on EQD! Not to mention every other stinking site on the internet. Why?!

Because it's a new big budget, popular, and quality game that came out today?

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#71 2012-03-06 18:09:31

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

soupoftomato wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Luke121 wrote:

The became millionaires over a college project.

That's pretty amazing.

I mean CMON! There was even two posts about it on EQD! Not to mention every other stinking site on the internet. Why?!

Because it's a new big budget, popular, and quality game that came out today?

And that means it's NOT being shoved down our throats?

Anyway it seems what your saying is that the difference is one has a bigger budget, so that makes it okay to be overrated?

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#72 2012-03-06 18:21:32

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

Depends on who you are, and what you think of games.


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#73 2012-03-06 18:22:07

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

what makes whether a game is being shoved down out throats or not relevant to this discussion?


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#74 2012-03-06 18:37:59

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

bananaman114 wrote:

what makes whether a game is being shoved down out throats or not relevant to this discussion?

I don't know.

Ask Soup. They said it, not me.


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#75 2012-03-06 18:45:02

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Re: Are Video Games Art?

It definitely is. Kind of like how scratch is an art. If I was some random person and saw a scratch project, I'd probably honk it's a bad video game. But we are the ones who make it so we adore scratch more because of all the hard work we spent on it. Art is something that has tO take ime to really adore.

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