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veggieman001 · 2012-03-04 20:56:01

Garr8 wrote:
in my opinion, videogames CAN be art, though not all of them are. A story is art, a story must have a plot. I say a videogame must have a story or plot to it to be considered art.

uh
hate to break it to you
but a story is a plot and vice versa

Garr8 · 2012-03-04 21:00:44

veggieman001 wrote:
Garr8 wrote:
in my opinion, videogames CAN be art, though not all of them are. A story is art, a story must have a plot. I say a videogame must have a story or plot to it to be considered art.
uh
hate to break it to you
but a story is a plot and vice versa

i know but i did not know the "official term" for the problem in the story. And i also stated this because fiction writing is art and videogames with stories are usually fiction. Therefore, some videogames ARE art.

EDIT: That is if you are designing a game or playing a game thats a simulation or where u desgin a world like in Spore is what i consider art.

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veggieman001 · 2012-03-04 21:01:41

Garr8 wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
Garr8 wrote:
in my opinion, videogames CAN be art, though not all of them are. A story is art, a story must have a plot. I say a videogame must have a story or plot to it to be considered art.
uh
hate to break it to you
but a story is a plot and vice versa
i know but i did not know the "official term" for the problem in the story. And i also stated this because fiction writing is art and videogames with stories are usually fiction. Therefore, some videogames ARE art.

oh, you mean conflict?

Garr8 · 2012-03-04 21:03:27

veggieman001 wrote:
Garr8 wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:

uh
hate to break it to you
but a story is a plot and vice versa
i know but i did not know the "official term" for the problem in the story. And i also stated this because fiction writing is art and videogames with stories are usually fiction. Therefore, some videogames ARE art.
oh, you mean conflict?

EX. In Star Wars: A New Hope, Luke and Han must rescue Leia, that is plot.

veggieman001 · 2012-03-04 21:05:46

that's part of the plot, yes

soupoftomato · 2012-03-04 21:24:19

Garr8 wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
Garr8 wrote:
i know but i did not know the "official term" for the problem in the story. And i also stated this because fiction writing is art and videogames with stories are usually fiction. Therefore, some videogames ARE art.
oh, you mean conflict?
EX. In Star Wars: A New Hope, Luke and Han must rescue Leia, that is plot.

Jackson Pollock made art. Quite a good plot to his work, no?

THE STORY! THE CONFLICT! IT'S INTENSE

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PlutoIsHades · 2012-03-05 05:57:44

Dinoclor wrote:
Sometimes they are.
Sometimes they aren't.
Tired old things like Pokemon which drag on and on and on and on are not art. They're the same engine with different characters and pokemon and regions. The first Pokemons were art. The new ones are not.
When people put creative energy and effort into it, it's art.

+1

All4one · 2012-03-05 13:12:32

I think it really just depends on one's definition of the word "art".

In my opinion, I think video games would fall under the term "art", because it's a product that was created from someone's imagination.

NeilWest · 2012-03-05 15:38:51

You need to play Flower. So beautiful!

bananaman114 · 2012-03-05 16:59:09

Half Life 2 was a shooter and it was art in my opinion
so in my mind genre doesn't matter!

fungirl123 · 2012-03-05 19:16:08

Uh the only thing I consider artsy about video games is their graphics
Sorry I'm not a video game expert

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jji7skyline · 2012-03-05 20:17:26

yes

brettman98 · 2012-03-05 20:30:48

Luke121 wrote:
Dinoclor wrote:
Luke121 wrote:

Name a game you'd consider art.

But don't mention any shooters. Because then I'd have to laugh at you.

And then I'd get in twubble. :c
There are a lot of games I consider art.
Mainly flash games made by relatively unknown developers.
I agree.
Shooters are not art and can never be art.
Agreed. Sure, they can have artful GRAPHICS, but there's nothing artsy about lighting people up.

then are violent books not art too?
or how about violent images?

jji7skyline · 2012-03-05 20:32:19

brettman98 wrote:
Luke121 wrote:
Dinoclor wrote:
There are a lot of games I consider art.
Mainly flash games made by relatively unknown developers.
I agree.
Shooters are not art and can never be art.
Agreed. Sure, they can have artful GRAPHICS, but there's nothing artsy about lighting people up.
then are violent books not art too?
or how about violent images?

They are a form of art I detest neutral

ShotgunSam · 2012-03-05 20:32:20

the article was written in like 2010
the gamees back there were bad

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Liru · 2012-03-05 20:34:01

Overgrowth is art tongue

Powderbomb · 2012-03-05 20:38:18

Liru wrote:
Overgrowth is art

It's not done yet though sad

Although, yes, there is already a strong artistic aspect to it.

Liru · 2012-03-05 20:41:01

Powderbomb wrote:
Liru wrote:
Overgrowth is art
It's not done yet though

Although, yes, there is already a strong artistic aspect to it.

It's still good for a game which isn't even done, they add new things each week and it's really amazing, they added weapon throwing within the space of two weeks (One alpha build had it, but it was unbalanced) and sheathing small weapons at the same time. The weapons are also very artistic and based off real life oens.

soupoftomato · 2012-03-05 20:41:20

Anyone saying:

"LOL I HATE SHOOTERS< WILL NEVER BE ARTS LULZ"
Shut up. [Moderator note - Please be respectful when discussing]

Why is a shooter any worse than a movie about or featuring war?

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Luke121 · 2012-03-05 20:45:03

soupoftomato wrote:
Anyone saying:

"LOL I HATE SHOOTERS< WILL NEVER BE ARTS LULZ"
Shut up. [Moderator note - Please be respectful when discussing]

Why is a shooter any worse than a movie about or featuring war?

"Art" is a relative term.
I don't consider violent or action movies art.

They are "entertainment" not art.

My opinion, live with it. No need to get your pants in a twist just because everyone doesn't think blood, guts, and unnecessary gore are as fun as you do.

Saving Private Ryan is art. Call of Duty is not.

Sorry if I sound hostile, but you weren't exactly being kind, yourself.

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Liru · 2012-03-05 20:55:15

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/sfg.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/cgn.jpg
Can't see any art, eyes are closed.

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soupoftomato · 2012-03-05 20:58:50

Liru wrote:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/sfg.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/sfg.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/cgn.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/cgn.jpg
Can't see any art, eyes are closed.

Those are excellent pieces of art, actually.

Just because YOU don't want to see it, YOU don't agree with it, doesn't mean YOU decide if it's art.

Luke121 · 2012-03-05 21:03:05

soupoftomato wrote:
Liru wrote:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/sfg.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/sfg.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/cgn.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/cgn.jpg
Can't see any art, eyes are closed.
Those are excellent pieces of art, actually.

Just because YOU don't want to see it, YOU don't agree with it, doesn't mean YOU decide if it's art.

Yes, and that's what opinion means.

Just because YOU want to see it, YOU do agree with it, doesn't mean YOU decide if it's art, either.

soupoftomato · 2012-03-05 21:05:35

Luke121 wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
Liru wrote:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/sfg.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/sfg.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/cgn.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3723997/cgn.jpg
Can't see any art, eyes are closed.
Those are excellent pieces of art, actually.

Just because YOU don't want to see it, YOU don't agree with it, doesn't mean YOU decide if it's art.
Yes, and that's what opinion means.

Just because YOU want to see it, YOU do agree with it, doesn't mean YOU decide if it's art, either.

Yes, but I DON'T agree with it, I would prefer NOT to see it, and I realize that art can be something I don't enjoy or agree with.

brettman98 · 2012-03-05 21:13:32

jji7skyline wrote:
brettman98 wrote:
Luke121 wrote:

Agreed. Sure, they can have artful GRAPHICS, but there's nothing artsy about lighting people up.
then are violent books not art too?
or how about violent images?
They are a form of art I detest

some violence can teach us morals, but violence is not a pleasant form of art.

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