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veggieman001 wrote:

Mokat wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:

^my point
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But really, this is actually not a valid idea, because you can just click on profile, and it shows your post count!

That only shows your post count. But Veggie kept on posting their post count everywhere, so that kinda defeted the purpose.

:>

My post count is 689, by the way ^.^
now I'm at 827

Last edited by Mokat (2012-03-04 18:32:55)

Hardmath123 wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Yeah, that's the problem...
No. That's the true answer. Just some side little thing.
Well, I'm not so sure what APIs FluxBB has, but maybe you could see who's posted more than an average of, say, 50 times a day, in the past couple days, and just ask them why they're posting so much. Make sure it has good intentions. Except that's a bunch of modwork... Maybe an automatically generated admin message reminding them that they've been posting a lot, and should make sure they have good intentions while doing so.

I was thinking more along the lines of something Scratchers could do to prevent post count spamming, or to intervene gently when they find it, and flag when necessary.  Mods have their hands pretty full as it is, and need to have time to focus on other things, like answering questions, creating awesome activities, making projects, that sort of thing.

So maybe we need a new rank which is between Scratcher and Community Moderator: something which allows:

a) Moving topics
IMO that's a kind of spam, I once saw a topic about cheese in the Advanced Topics.

b) Locking/hiding posts
(from the view of New Scratchers and Scratchers; but not from Mods who can delete them)

c) Reports by them could come in bold for higher priority

Just an idea. It could help, there are a zillion helpful Scratchers who would love to help mod in little ways. I can think of at least 20 on the spot. 

I'm not one of them, am I? XD
And I think that rank is planned, but I think moving and hiding topics is a bit much. 

scimonster wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

scimonster wrote:

It's all true, but, take me for an example, I did take part (minorly) in post count races, but never resorted to spamming. It's an extra challenge. I do enjoy helping people, and I certainly like the friendliness, but yes, I checked users' post counts quite often, and tried to beat them. Before this change, I was aiming to beat Paddle to 10,000. Now, I'll never know.

That's an interesting point, especially because you have been a long time and really helpful member of the community. The thing is, not everyone will avoid total spamming, as you did.

But is that post race with P2S really so important to your experience on Scratch?

If it really is, what would be an alternative way, aside from the post count change, to discourage spamful / meaningless posts made only for the purpose of upping one's count?

Yeah, that's the problem...
No. That's the true answer. Just some side little thing.
Well, I'm not so sure what APIs FluxBB has, but maybe you could see who's posted more than an average of, say, 50 times a day, in the past couple days, and just ask them why they're posting so much. Make sure it has good intentions. Except that's a bunch of modwork... Maybe an automatically generated admin message reminding them that they've been posting a lot, and should make sure they have good intentions while doing so.

Uh... I post over fifty times every day though :>

veggieman001 wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Yeah, that's the problem...
No. That's the true answer. Just some side little thing.
Well, I'm not so sure what APIs FluxBB has, but maybe you could see who's posted more than an average of, say, 50 times a day, in the past couple days, and just ask them why they're posting so much. Make sure it has good intentions. Except that's a bunch of modwork... Maybe an automatically generated admin message reminding them that they've been posting a lot, and should make sure they have good intentions while doing so.

Uh... I post over fifty times every day though :>

lolmetoo

Well, make sure you always have good intentions. ;P

veggieman001 wrote:

scimonster wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

lolmetoo

Well, make sure you always have good intentions. ;P

i do jeez what are you my mom

lol. just doin mah job. ;D

Last edited by scimonster (2012-02-25 13:53:14)

werdna123 wrote:

werdna123 wrote:

I've updated my idea:
An Experienced Scratcher level that is given to trusted people who help out lots by mods/ST. This level would fix the problem that people can no longer determine the experience of Scratchers. It would allow the person to only have a 30-second-rule for posting, since there would be little risk of people abusing it to spam.

You might say, then people would spam to try and get ST to notice them and make them Exp. Scratchers, however, the only spam would be to try and help people and answer questions, etcetera.

I really want to see a Mod. or someone in the Scratch Team's opinions on this.

We've been talking this over for a few months - how to reward experienced and helpful Scratchers.  We currently have the Community Moderator positions, which give expanded powers and trust to a selected few members.   I think what you are proposing here, is something intermediate between a regular Scratcher and a Community Moderator. 

I can see where the Community might enjoy such a position...and it might motivate people to be more helpful in the community.  I can also see where it might get to be a bit of a tangled mess trying to decide who is worthy of the honor, selecting candidates and explaining to people why they did or didn't make it.  It's not an easy thing.  There's a lot to think over 

Oh, and you forgot to change the original post; it still says that it'll say ">#".

scimonster wrote:

Hardmath123 wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

I was thinking more along the lines of something Scratchers could do to prevent post count spamming, or to intervene gently when they find it, and flag when necessary.  Mods have their hands pretty full as it is, and need to have time to focus on other things, like answering questions, creating awesome activities, making projects, that sort of thing.

So maybe we need a new rank which is between Scratcher and Community Moderator: something which allows:

a) Moving topics
IMO that's a kind of spam, I once saw a topic about cheese in the Advanced Topics.

b) Locking/hiding posts
(from the view of New Scratchers and Scratchers; but not from Mods who can delete them)

c) Reports by them could come in bold for higher priority

Just an idea. It could help, there are a zillion helpful Scratchers who would love to help mod in little ways. I can think of at least 20 on the spot. 

I'm not one of them, am I? XD
And I think that rank is planned, but I think moving and hiding topics is a bit much. 

Here are some of the people who could be in the rank:
Chrischb (TBG mod + Wiki)
Veggieman001 (Wiki)
scimonster (Wiki)
Lucario621 (Wiki)
sparks (ran for mod)

Last edited by Hardmath123 (2012-02-26 02:26:41)

Hardmath123 wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Hardmath123 wrote:

So maybe we need a new rank which is between Scratcher and Community Moderator: something which allows:

a) Moving topics
IMO that's a kind of spam, I once saw a topic about cheese in the Advanced Topics.

b) Locking/hiding posts
(from the view of New Scratchers and Scratchers; but not from Mods who can delete them)

c) Reports by them could come in bold for higher priority

Just an idea. It could help, there are a zillion helpful Scratchers who would love to help mod in little ways. I can think of at least 20 on the spot. 

I'm not one of them, am I? XD
And I think that rank is planned, but I think moving and hiding topics is a bit much. 

Here are some of the people who could be in the rank:
Chrischb (TBG mod + Wiki)
Veggieman001 (Wiki)
Scimonster (Wiki)
Lucario621 (Wiki)
sparks (ran for mod)

Chris already has the Collab Counselor status. 

hari_2153 wrote:

Long time to go to 1000 post..
Trying..

Lucky To All

Scratch isn't about getting a high post count.

Paddle2See wrote:

We've been talking this over for a few months - how to reward experienced and helpful Scratchers.  We currently have the Community Moderator positions, which give expanded powers and trust to a selected few members.   I think what you are proposing here, is something intermediate between a regular Scratcher and a Community Moderator. 

I can see where the Community might enjoy such a position...and it might motivate people to be more helpful in the community.  I can also see where it might get to be a bit of a tangled mess trying to decide who is worthy of the honor, selecting candidates and explaining to people why they did or didn't make it.  It's not an easy thing.  There's a lot to think over 

Yep. They would definitely have to be hand selected, not automatic or anything.

Also, what would make them special? Would it just be a status? (that would be perfectly fine with me) Or would they have some similar abilities as moderators? I'm not really sure. Also, how many people would get the rank? And how do you make sure it's not a rank exclusively given to people on the forums, for example?

Many questions left unanswered.

Last edited by Lucario621 (2012-02-26 13:12:48)

imsosuperswell1 wrote:

I think to decide the intermediate rank we could have like occasionial elections for the extra rank, with requirements to deem if they aren't evil or not. Plus there should be an age limit, cause we can't have 7 year olds with Experienced Scratcher rank can we?

I don't see why we couldn't.