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werdna123 wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

scimonster wrote:

And veggie, why do you keep posting your post count? Isn't that kind of defeating this? 

Perhaps he's trying to convince us to remove the post count everywhere...not just on the public display?

Haha, that's a good way of trying to convince you actually.

I'm at 6602 posts, by the way.

This is my 13249th ^^

videogame9 wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

werdna123 wrote:

Haha, that's a good way of trying to convince you actually.

I'm at 6602 posts, by the way.

This is my 13249th ^^

This is my 1625th!

It's not as big a number as yours.

Quite

cheddargirl wrote:

Liru wrote:

By the way, where are you finding all this spam?

They usually occur in random spots on the forums.

One example is when some posts something along the lines of "this is my _th post", or "congrats on your _th" post to another user.

Another examples are less obvious person will try to post as much as he/she can. This can be done via posting several threads at once, or posting in the other languages forums via Google translate, or bumping old threads, or commenting irrelevant posts on threads. Often times, when questioned about it, the post count inflation is one of the reasons for posting so much in a short amount of time (the other being that they want to try and dominate the forums such that their name appears almost everywhere, but that issue is already somewhat tempered by the time posting limit).

They're usually removed quickly, though, which is probably why you haven't been seeing a lot of them.

Though when some of us go to the other language forums and post using Google Translate, a good number of us are trying to help.

coolstuff wrote:

SJRCS_011 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

They usually occur in random spots on the forums.

One example is when some posts something along the lines of "this is my _th post", or "congrats on your _th" post to another user.

Another examples are less obvious person will try to post as much as he/she can. This can be done via posting several threads at once, or posting in the other languages forums via Google translate, or bumping old threads, or commenting irrelevant posts on threads. Often times, when questioned about it, the post count inflation is one of the reasons for posting so much in a short amount of time (the other being that they want to try and dominate the forums such that their name appears almost everywhere, but that issue is already somewhat tempered by the time posting limit).

They're usually removed quickly, though, which is probably why you haven't been seeing a lot of them.

Though when some of us go to the other language forums and post using Google Translate, a good number of us are trying to help.

True, and you're more than welcome to continue doing that. But people who may be doing that for the sake of posting certainly won't have a great deal of motivation anymore.

But what of newbies? The will want to get the >1000 post badge or whatever 

Well, I guess that is a smart thing to implement.

cheddargirl wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

True, and you're more than welcome to continue doing that. But people who may be doing that for the sake of posting certainly won't have a great deal of motivation anymore.

But what of newbies? The will want to get the >1000 post badge or whatever 

It's most likely that the need to get a high post count will stop once that limit is reached.

When post counts were visible, there was kind of some pressure and/or pride in having a large post count to show off. Now since there's a limit and no one can see each other's post count, that kind of takes the pressure off.

Granted the best way to limit the motivations behind post count inflation is to completely hide post counts from view, but at the same time post counts hold the benefits of showing who is an active and long-time member and who is not. A tier system is a balance between the two - though it does not remove the pressure to post so much, it should alleviate the issue a good amount to prevent some post count inflation.

But many of us think there should be more tiers after >1000.   

jslomba wrote:

maybe just a <5000 and a <10000 after <1000

I think there should be a >2500 and a >7500 as well.   

cheddargirl wrote:

Greenatic wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

It's most likely that the need to get a high post count will stop once that limit is reached.

When post counts were visible, there was kind of some pressure and/or pride in having a large post count to show off. Now since there's a limit and no one can see each other's post count, that kind of takes the pressure off.

Granted the best way to limit the motivations behind post count inflation is to completely hide post counts from view, but at the same time post counts hold the benefits of showing who is an active and long-time member and who is not. A tier system is a balance between the two - though it does not remove the pressure to post so much, it should alleviate the issue a good amount to prevent some post count inflation.

But many of us think there should be more tiers after >1000.   

One of the problem with having higher and higher tiers is that it kind of gives users an extra goal to reach. Cutting it off at a low tier should alleviate some of that pressure.

I still don't see what was so bad with a bit of competition. 

scimonster wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Greenatic wrote:

But many of us think there should be more tiers after >1000.   

One of the problem with having higher and higher tiers is that it kind of gives users an extra goal to reach. Cutting it off at a low tier should alleviate some of that pressure.

I still don't see what was so bad with a bit of competition. 

The website is for Scratch, not a place to compete for posting counts. By associating posting as some kind of competition, you've already implied that it has become sort of a game to you, which is one of the things that the tier system is trying to discourage.

scimonster wrote:

Oh nice, it's my 7700th post (it is). The problem is, now people will publicize (like this) whenever they reach a milestone only visible to them. 

Oh, and you got the tiers backwards in the first post.

Well, we'd have to take your word for it though, since no one else but you and those with adminisrator privileges can see it.

cheddargirl wrote:

scimonster wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

One of the problem with having higher and higher tiers is that it kind of gives users an extra goal to reach. Cutting it off at a low tier should alleviate some of that pressure.

I still don't see what was so bad with a bit of competition. 

The website is for Scratch, not a place to compete for posting counts. By associating posting as some kind of competition, you've already implied that it has become sort of a game to you, which is one of the things that the tier system is trying to discourage.

scimonster wrote:

Oh nice, it's my 7700th post (it is). The problem is, now people will publicize (like this) whenever they reach a milestone only visible to them. 

Oh, and you got the tiers backwards in the first post.

Well, we'd have to take your word for it though, since no one else but you and those with adminisrator privileges can see it.

I suppose it has become a game of sorts...

Can regular mods see them?

Greenatic wrote:

This isn't about extra goals.  This is about the fact that the experience difference between 10 and 100 is virtually the same as between >1000 and >5000.

not exactly.
When Miscellaneous was around, sometimes there wasn't much of a difference between the two.
Is it me, or does it seem like I'm one of the only people supporting this completely?

SJRCS_011 wrote:

Greenatic wrote:

This isn't about extra goals.  This is about the fact that the experience difference between 10 and 100 is virtually the same as between >1000 and >5000.

not exactly.
When Miscellaneous was around, sometimes there wasn't much of a difference between the two.
Is it me, or does it seem like I'm one of the only people supporting this completely?

I support this too, and I have the most posts.