Scratch

I think there should be a way to type in the codes instead of blocks that would be nice. It's like KoolCode.

the whole concept behind scratch is for a drag and drop programming language for young users to learn. I know even i would have tried to jump straight into the advance one, get confused, and be put of from programming, which is what scratch is trying to avoid doing.

yes these ideas are great but you have to think about the people who made scratch and not be selfish. to make that program it will take effort,time, and almost and possibly money. so if you can make a program like that then do it but if you can't then just ask one time and don't demand.

Scratch is to learn programming.  I'm using it to teach my kids.

Use Visual Studio, XNA etc if you want to do something more serious.

I made a suggestion similar to this in December:
http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=13075

Mike_W wrote:

While scratch pro is not a bad idea, I don't think it's consistant with the vision of scratch as a programming tool for young programmers - which is a worthy goal. - Where to get people for it.

As for me I'm waiting to see 1.4 and what that brings.

***technical stuff below***
Try Mac Scratch...it will be a program for mac coded in Xcode not Squeak. It unlocks tools to do all sorts of stuff like visual effects using Core Animation, image editing using Core Image, sound editing and playing with Core Audio, data management with Core Data, and all sorts of stuff. There could be blocks like [Shrink screen to (50%)], [glide screen to x: (0) y 0)], [change screen size to (100%)]. And there's not just sprites. Quartz Composer projects can be added. And you can save the project as .app.
***end technical stuff***

yambanshee wrote:

Stickman704 wrote:

and flash is too hard 

not compltly true. You just need to learn how to use it. read a couple of code tutorials etc...

Ha! have you even tried Flash? (of course not!) well I have, simple animations are one thing, but anything more complicated then that is another. a couple of code tutorial aren't going to teach you very much. Keep in mind that flash is nothing like scratch. Flash is based off of frames (it was intended to be used as an animation tool.) I got the free download but I still didn't learn very much. I don't see how I can't get anything other than a commercial license with it. (my class is still struggling with extremely basic projects.)

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Last edited by fireball123 (2009-04-25 19:03:37)

fireball123 wrote:

yambanshee wrote:

Stickman704 wrote:

and flash is too hard 

not compltly true. You just need to learn how to use it. read a couple of code tutorials etc...

Ha! have you even tried Flash? (of course not!) well I have, simple animations are one thing, but anything more complicated then that is another. a couple of code tutorial aren't going to teach you very much. Keep in mind that flash is nothing like scratch. Flash is based off of frames (it was intended to be used as an animation tool.) I got the free download but I still didn't learn very much. I don't see how I can't get anything other than a commercial license with it. (my class is still struggling with extremely basic projects.)

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There is a way to express yourself and a way not to.When you are quoting someone else please do not assume things (Such as you said he hasn't used Flash).This world is full of endless possibilites so you never know!
                Also refering to this Post "Topic" I say Scratch Pro is a great Idea but the whole Point (Concept) of scratch is to help young programers take small steps to programing in the real world.Creating a new Scratch Program takes time and dedication and I think the Scratch Team has done enough.

Just Helping you ahead of time! 

fireball123 wrote:

DawnLight wrote:

fireball123 wrote:

Ha! have you even tried Flash? (of course not!) well I have, simple animations are one thing, but anything more complicated then that is another. a couple of code tutorial aren't going to teach you very much. Keep in mind that flash is nothing like scratch. Flash is based off of frames (it was intended to be used as an animation tool.) I got the free download but I still didn't learn very much. I don't see how I can't get anything other than a commercial license with it. (my class is still struggling with extremely basic projects.)

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http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5360 … 43dfa2.jpg

There is a way to express yourself and a way not to.When you are quoting someone else please do not assume things (Such as you said he hasn't used Flash).This world is full of endless possibilites so you never know! 

Ok so I assumed it but from the way it's written it has the arrogance of assuming that some tutorials are going to teach you flash. Also note the user said "code" Flash as I said is nothing like scratch. NOTHING. so it's like the time it took for you to get comfortable with scratch (not including coding) times 10-20

Actually, I got comfortable with Scratch in a few hours. It's not that hard, my friend.

If you want something more advanced than you can try greenfoot which is basically a code based scratch. Greenfoot is all code based but it lets you create programs like those in scratch with fewer limitations. It is much more difficult than scratch but if features is what you need then it has them. If scratch suits your needs then scratch is fine for your purposes but if you feel too limited by scratch then greenfoot would be a better choice.

http://www.greenfoot.org/

But I would say that greenfoot is a bit harder than flash.

Is there anyway to distribute greenfoot - by web or by executable.

Mike

Mike_W wrote:

frogger3140 wrote:

Mike_W wrote:

While scratch pro is not a bad idea, I don't think it's consistant with the vision of scratch as a programming tool for young programmers - which is a worthy goal. - Where to get people for it.

As for me I'm waiting to see 1.4 and what that brings.

***technical stuff below***
Try Mac Scratch...it will be a program for mac coded in Xcode not Squeak. It unlocks tools to do all sorts of stuff like visual effects using Core Animation, image editing using Core Image, sound editing and playing with Core Audio, data management with Core Data, and all sorts of stuff. There could be blocks like [Shrink screen to (50%)], [glide screen to x: (0) y 0)], [change screen size to (100%)]. And there's not just sprites. Quartz Composer projects can be added. And you can save the project as .app.
***end technical stuff***

Has anyone tried squeak as that next step.

idk but try Xcode