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#1 2012-01-27 08:44:56

Mokat
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Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

I think that we should make Miscellanious inito a seperate forum, like the TBG's. It would be monitored by different moderators and you would have like a "New Misc.-er" status and a "Misc.-er" status. There are some things that don't fit into the new What I'm Reading And Playing and Things Outside Of Scratch forums. I recently posted a topic in Misc. called "Omg It Snowed!!" and it was a discussion thread for snow. This way, the people who still want Misc. can have Misc. back, and the people who didn't want it don't have to deal with it.


Some things to prevent spam/trolls:
~Lots of mods
~Ban people who spam/troll if they do it a certain number of times
~Make it so that people's posts have to have atleast {whatever number} letters
~Don't have image tags their


Pros and cons:

Pros:
~We can discuss things that don't belong into the What I'm Reading and Playing and the What I'm creating and Making Forums
~Make un-related to Scratch topics
~Make discussion threads that aren't about what your reading, playing, and creating
Cons:
~Spam.
~Trolls.
~May be hard to moderate

Supporters:
Mokat
PlutoIsHades
FreshStudios
SilverDomination (50%)
rdococ (50%)
fruitmanninja

Last edited by Mokat (2012-02-09 18:45:07)


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#2 2012-01-27 09:15:45

SilverDomination
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

I kind of support, but one of the reasons they closed the miscellaneous forums is because it's too hard to moderate.  hmm


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#3 2012-01-27 09:37:21

TheDogIslandFan
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

The reason why it closed down was become..... lot's of spam came and it was getting so hard to remove it had to be shut down. but i'll make a misc forum.


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#4 2012-01-27 15:37:10

PlutoIsHades
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

Complete SUPPORT!!!


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#5 2012-01-27 15:47:05

CheeseMunchy
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

Didn't you read my sig?
It was eaten. XD
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No, we don't need it.
It just distracts me for the Scratch program.


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#6 2012-01-27 15:57:04

PlutoIsHades
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

CheeseMunchy wrote:

Didn't you read my sig?
It was eaten. XD
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No, we don't need it.
It just distracts me for the Scratch program.

"Weasels" is spelled wrong. XD


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#7 2012-01-27 16:02:46

CheeseMunchy
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

PlutoIsHades wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

Didn't you read my sig?
It was eaten. XD
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No, we don't need it.
It just distracts me for the Scratch program.

"Weasels" is spelled wrong. XD

D:


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#8 2012-01-27 16:36:58

ImagineIt
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

Miscellaneous was shut down.

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#9 2012-01-27 16:49:42

FreshStudios
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

support


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#10 2012-01-27 17:15:07

Mokat
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

SilverDomination wrote:

I kind of support, but one of the reasons they closed the miscellaneous forums is because it's too hard to moderate.  hmm

Should I put you on the supporters list or not? Just wondering-- before I start to edit the supporters list.


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#11 2012-01-27 22:45:33

Lightnin
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

The Misc had some good and some bad parts - a mixed bag. But the thing is, it doesn't really take any special expertise or technology to run an open topic forum. You could even start a reddit sub group if you like. So those of you who really want an open topic forum should consider hosting one.
(And maybe also consider joining forces with someone who already has an approved forum - and think about ways to govern it fairly.)


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#12 2012-01-28 14:13:45

scimonster
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

Misc is gone. It's not coming back.

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#13 2012-01-28 15:25:57

PlutoIsHades
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

scimonster wrote:

Misc is gone. It's not coming back.

It'll stay gone as long as we just sit here and go with the flow and do nothing.


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#14 2012-01-28 16:06:26

JJROCKER
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

Nope.


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#15 2012-01-28 19:01:34

Mokat
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

Lightnin wrote:

The Misc had some good and some bad parts - a mixed bag. But the thing is, it doesn't really take any special expertise or technology to run an open topic forum. You could even start a reddit sub group if you like. So those of you who really want an open topic forum should consider hosting one.
(And maybe also consider joining forces with someone who already has an approved forum - and think about ways to govern it fairly.)

My mom won't let me make my own forum-- the only websites I'm allowed on are here, Google, and Wikipedia.  sad


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#16 2012-01-28 22:34:09

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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

PlutoIsHades wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Misc is gone. It's not coming back.

It'll stay gone as long as we just sit here and go with the flow and do nothing.

I think he means that he doesn't think you can change the ST's mind about this.


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#17 2012-01-28 22:41:39

coppearlix
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

In my opinion, Misc was removed for a reason. Clearly the almighty authorities of Scratch didn't want it in their forums. Maybe someone should make a Misc gallery to chat in.


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#18 2012-01-28 23:04:57

ElectricSparx
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Registered: 2008-02-16
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

coppearlix wrote:

In my opinion, Misc was removed for a reason. Clearly the almighty authorities of Scratch didn't want it in their forums. Maybe someone should make a Misc gallery to chat in.

The moderators just love to wag their middle fingers at us, don't they? We don't get hardly any rights, and the moderators can eat donuts and tell us to hop along in the rights-less world of the Scratch website.


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#19 2012-01-28 23:37:12

Liru
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Registered: 2012-01-11
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

ElectricSparx wrote:

coppearlix wrote:

In my opinion, Misc was removed for a reason. Clearly the almighty authorities of Scratch didn't want it in their forums. Maybe someone should make a Misc gallery to chat in.

The moderators just love to wag their middle fingers at us, don't they? We don't get hardly any rights, and the moderators can eat donuts and tell us to hop along in the rights-less world of the Scratch website.

What rights do you want? Everyone in control of the whole website? You know where the close button is, if you want to bring the age of Scratchers up by making rules fit loosely then there's many other sites you can join, go join the GTA forums if you're into mindless insulting and copyright claims.

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#20 2012-01-28 23:47:59

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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

Liru wrote:

ElectricSparx wrote:

coppearlix wrote:

In my opinion, Misc was removed for a reason. Clearly the almighty authorities of Scratch didn't want it in their forums. Maybe someone should make a Misc gallery to chat in.

The moderators just love to wag their middle fingers at us, don't they? We don't get hardly any rights, and the moderators can eat donuts and tell us to hop along in the rights-less world of the Scratch website.

What rights do you want? Everyone in control of the whole website? You know where the close button is, if you want to bring the age of Scratchers up by making rules fit loosely then there's many other sites you can join, go join the GTA forums if you're into mindless insulting and copyright claims.

This.

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#21 2012-01-29 04:57:02

RedRocker227
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

No. Misc. was gone for a reason. And even if the Scratch Team did like this idea, if they chose to implement it, it would show that they made a massive mistake.


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#22 2012-01-29 05:56:06

PlutoIsHades
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Registered: 2010-10-18
Posts: 1000+

Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

RedRocker227 wrote:

No. Misc. was gone for a reason. And even if the Scratch Team did like this idea, if they chose to implement it, it would show that they made a massive mistake.

And they don't want to lose face by admitting it.


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#23 2012-01-29 06:48:58

rdococ
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Posts: 1000+

Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

Pros
1. We can talk about anything we like +1
2. If we made it as hard to reach as possible, this could actually go through! +2

Cons
1. Spammers that find it will spam there -2
2. Topics without a clear definition may be made -1

Ideas
1. More moderators +1
2. Instant banning of Misc rule breakers +0.5
3. Ban on first sight of spam +5

Total: 0/2
Total with ideas: 6.5/5

I agree 50% right now, or if we have the ideas, 130%.

Last edited by rdococ (2012-01-29 06:59:27)

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#24 2012-01-30 20:32:19

Mokat
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Registered: 2011-12-08
Posts: 1000+

Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

rdococ wrote:

Pros
1. We can talk about anything we like +1
2. If we made it as hard to reach as possible, this could actually go through! +2

Cons
1. Spammers that find it will spam there -2
2. Topics without a clear definition may be made -1

Ideas
1. More moderators +1
2. Instant banning of Misc rule breakers +0.5
3. Ban on first sight of spam +5

Total: 0/2
Total with ideas: 6.5/5

I agree 50% right now, or if we have the ideas, 130%.

I'll put pros and cons onto the discription.


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#25 2012-02-06 20:52:18

Mokat
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Re: Make Misc. Into a Seperate Forum

bump


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