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#1 2010-08-11 10:58:08

bendad
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The Return Of M30W

Ok, if you've been on the advanced topics section for a while, you may remember Emerald. Emerald was renamed M30W (Meow). Well, the M30W project has been active all this time, just not on the Scratch forums. I am here to announce M30W's newest version. And this time, it looks a bit more like Scratch. Ok.... It looks a lot more like Scratch, because it now has a GUI (Graphical User Interface)!!!! You need Python and I think wxPython to run it. Learn much more and get M30W updates at our forums.

Download M30W 0.3.9

Also, more news! Our new website is m30w.gershmer.net!!!

Code:

Type code in the text box and press the run button (>)

Supports strings (encased in single or double quotes) and numbers (integer, decimal, or negative).
If a string is entered where a number is needed and it can't be converted to a number, then it will count as a zero.
Expressions and Variables to be added in the future.

Functions:
say {value}: Make the value show up as text
wait {value} secs: Wait for a number of seconds
set {var} to {value}: Sets the x position, y position, or costume (with var = x, y and costume respectively)
change {var} by {value} Changes the x position or y position by the value (with var = x and y respectively)

Everyone say thanks to floppy_gunk because he made it. (With 2 minor helps from Gershmer)
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7489/screenshot20100727at549.png

Do you like it?

Last edited by bendad (2010-08-12 21:57:55)


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#2 2010-08-12 01:15:58

Jonathanpb
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Re: The Return Of M30W

Ooh, I remember Emerald!  big_smile

Hmm, it looks cool... sort of like a text-based Scratch. Oh, is it?  tongue


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#3 2010-08-12 09:40:36

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Re: The Return Of M30W

This looks really cool, but I can't get it to work  sad


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#4 2010-08-12 21:55:31

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Re: The Return Of M30W

@Jonathanpb
That's what it is!

@ScratchReallyROCKS
You need *digs through topics on the m30w forum* get Python. (You probably already have that) get wxPython.


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#5 2010-08-12 22:00:05

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Re: The Return Of M30W

bendad wrote:

@Jonathanpb
That's what it is!

@ScratchReallyROCKS
You need *digs through topics on the m30w forum* get Python. (You probably already have that) get wxPython.

Yeah, I have Python, but I can't figure out how to get wxPython to work. This is what the website says:

the wxPython website wrote:

wxPython needs a special Mac OS X-specific build of Python, called a Framework build, in order to work. Panther and Tiger include a Framework build of Python 2.3, or you can get a newer version of Python the Python Framework from the Python site.


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#6 2012-01-19 11:56:22

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Re: The Return Of M30W

Who is in the M30W team?


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#7 2012-01-19 12:08:49

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Re: The Return Of M30W

Will the completed version of M30W work like scratch but with all of the programming as text?


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#8 2012-01-19 12:39:01

Magnie
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Re: The Return Of M30W

Purika wrote:

Who is in the M30W team?

Bendad, cds56, filo5, Gershmer, hidas, Me(Magnie), markyparky56, The-Whiz.

This is a dead project and may be replaced by some other project. I am thinking of rebuilding the project based on the most recent version of M30W, but who knows.

Overture: If there is a completed project, then yes. But as I said above, this is pretty much dead, but I might make a new version.

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#9 2012-01-19 12:48:17

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Re: The Return Of M30W

Magnie wrote:

Purika wrote:

Who is in the M30W team?

Bendad, cds56, filo5, Gershmer, hidas, Me(Magnie), markyparky56, The-Whiz.

This is a dead project and may be replaced by some other project. I am thinking of rebuilding the project based on the most recent version of M30W, but who knows.

Overture: If there is a completed project, then yes. But as I said above, this is pretty much dead, but I might make a new version.

Thanks! I created the wiki article about it!  big_smile
http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/M30W_( … ification)
If you can give me any more info that should/could be included please tell me!


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#10 2012-01-19 13:04:23

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Re: The Return Of M30W

Purika wrote:

Magnie wrote:

Purika wrote:

Who is in the M30W team?

Bendad, cds56, filo5, Gershmer, hidas, Me(Magnie), markyparky56, The-Whiz.

This is a dead project and may be replaced by some other project. I am thinking of rebuilding the project based on the most recent version of M30W, but who knows.

Overture: If there is a completed project, then yes. But as I said above, this is pretty much dead, but I might make a new version.

Thanks! I created the wiki article about it!  big_smile
http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/M30W_( … ification)
If you can give me any more info that should/could be included please tell me!

M30W is not exactly a "Scratch Mod" but more of a clone of Scratch, mostly because it's coded in Python.

Other than that, I'm not entirely sure what should be added since there hasn't been much development.

By the way, I'm sure I'd be willing to continue coding it if we get enough support (after I catch up on school and stuff of course).  smile

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#11 2012-01-19 14:55:36

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Re: The Return Of M30W

Hey Magnie! I'm sort-of still here. I kinda forgot about Scratch for a while, but I came back-ish today. I have a bunch of friends who love scratch, so they brought me back. I would definitely be interested in coming back to M3OW, and this time I'll try to actually help with coding XD. Keep me posted!


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#12 2012-01-19 15:27:02

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Re: The Return Of M30W

If you would continue that would be awesome - because - in my opinion - this is the next step after Scratch in learning to programme.


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#13 2012-01-19 15:27:03

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Re: The Return Of M30W

bendad wrote:

Hey Magnie! I'm sort-of still here. I kinda forgot about Scratch for a while, but I came back-ish today. I have a bunch of friends who love scratch, so they brought me back. I would definitely be interested in coming back to M3OW, and this time I'll try to actually help with coding XD. Keep me posted!

Cool, nice to have you back!  big_smile

My current thoughts for M30W is that we should re-plan the project (since it wasn't ever really planned in the first place), cause the latest version is coded in a confusing way (of course, I coded that badly many years ago as well, but I've gotten tons better I think).

Do you want to continue M30W or create a new project from "scratch" and get a different name?

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#14 2012-01-20 12:13:37

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Re: The Return Of M30W

Magnie wrote:

bendad wrote:

Hey Magnie! I'm sort-of still here. I kinda forgot about Scratch for a while, but I came back-ish today. I have a bunch of friends who love scratch, so they brought me back. I would definitely be interested in coming back to M3OW, and this time I'll try to actually help with coding XD. Keep me posted!

Cool, nice to have you back!  big_smile

My current thoughts for M30W is that we should re-plan the project (since it wasn't ever really planned in the first place), cause the latest version is coded in a confusing way (of course, I coded that badly many years ago as well, but I've gotten tons better I think).

Do you want to continue M30W or create a new project from "scratch" and get a different name?

Hmm.... Both ways have their benefits. I think we should code it in a language which can easily be turned into a .app(Mac) or .exe(Windows) (Partly because I use a mac). Let's try to start a new project but use an updated version of M30W just in case something doesn't work out. Either way, we'll use a new name.


Hi!  big_smile
Good to see you. (Even if I don't know you  wink  )

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#15 2012-01-20 12:17:00

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Re: The Return Of M30W

Please keep me updated on the progress of this new project. My email is [Removed by mod; please don't share personal contact details.]

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#16 2012-01-20 13:25:29

Magnie
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Re: The Return Of M30W

bendad wrote:

Magnie wrote:

bendad wrote:

Hey Magnie! I'm sort-of still here. I kinda forgot about Scratch for a while, but I came back-ish today. I have a bunch of friends who love scratch, so they brought me back. I would definitely be interested in coming back to M3OW, and this time I'll try to actually help with coding XD. Keep me posted!

Cool, nice to have you back!  big_smile

My current thoughts for M30W is that we should re-plan the project (since it wasn't ever really planned in the first place), cause the latest version is coded in a confusing way (of course, I coded that badly many years ago as well, but I've gotten tons better I think).

Do you want to continue M30W or create a new project from "scratch" and get a different name?

Hmm.... Both ways have their benefits. I think we should code it in a language which can easily be turned into a .app(Mac) or .exe(Windows) (Partly because I use a mac). Let's try to start a new project but use an updated version of M30W just in case something doesn't work out. Either way, we'll use a new name.

Well, I don't want to learn a another language (I don't have time either) but I know how to easily turn a .py into a .exe, not sure about the .app.

Py2App: http://svn.pythonmac.org/py2app/py2app/ … index.html
Py2Exe: http://www.py2exe.org/

I was thinking of setting up it with a class for sprites, a class for the stage and a class for the project. Something like what I did here: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=86889

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#17 2012-01-21 20:25:19

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Re: The Return Of M30W

Ok. I can deal with some of the mac exporting stuff, and you should take windows. I can try to take linux but I'm not sure. I'm about to get started on a website, and we can set up a subdomain there. I think I can also share stuff on FTP, and I know I can host forums there if we don't want to use the old forums. I'll keep you posted.


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#18 2012-01-22 00:43:19

Magnie
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Re: The Return Of M30W

bendad wrote:

Ok. I can deal with some of the mac exporting stuff, and you should take windows. I can try to take linux but I'm not sure. I'm about to get started on a website, and we can set up a subdomain there. I think I can also share stuff on FTP, and I know I can host forums there if we don't want to use the old forums. I'll keep you posted.

Sure. Though I would prefer new forums that aren't FluxBB (since those are easily spammed by bots).

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#19 2012-01-22 08:13:01

roijac
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Re: The Return Of M30W

can i help?
ur using 2.x, aren't u?

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#20 2012-01-23 10:36:02

Magnie
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Re: The Return Of M30W

roijac wrote:

can i help?
ur using 2.x, aren't u?

Sure, you need to know/be-willing to learn about wx (wxPython I think). We are using 2.x (2.7+ to be exact).  smile

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#21 2012-01-24 08:41:26

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Re: The Return Of M30W

so what exactly are we going to do?
should we have scratch compatibility, or not?

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#22 2012-01-24 09:48:51

Magnie
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Re: The Return Of M30W

roijac wrote:

so what exactly are we going to do?
should we have scratch compatibility, or not?

I would like to have compatibility, but I don't fully understand the system Scratch currently uses.  tongue  Looks like I've got some researching ahead of me.

I'm also working on some of my own projects, so I'm not entirely sure how quickly this will be developed.  hmm

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#23 2012-01-24 10:37:40

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Re: The Return Of M30W

do you actually know who does this?

could be helpful when finished  smile

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#24 2012-01-24 13:38:48

Magnie
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Re: The Return Of M30W

roijac wrote:

do you actually know who does this?

could be helpful when finished  smile

Yeah, it could be useful. But I think using our own format may be easier. Maybe a converter?

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#25 2012-01-24 13:42:41

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Re: The Return Of M30W

AHHH. I remember this. I adored the idea.

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