hello, i write fantasy stories (my current world i made is a parallel to the native americans). I want to make a world similar to medieval england, but how can i do it while avoiding cliches and overused ideas.
I was thinking of making my characters practice a religion similar to christianity, like england, and i was thinking of using motte- and bailey castles.
Any other advice is welcome.
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The important idea is to not keep stressing that they are in a medievally-england setting, have that as simply the background that loosely changes their speech and actions, but subtly.
Remember to have to characters speak and act as if the setting is natural to them. For some reason I see plenty of writers who don't do so.
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Kileymeister wrote:
Remember to have to characters speak and act as if the setting is natural to them. For some reason I see plenty of writers who don't do so.
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what i mean is the what are considered anachronisms that are often found in medieval european fantasy. I also want them to have a feudalism like england, but i fear its too cliched. Is it? Or is there a government type that could work just as well for the setting. DO NOT suggest monarchies, they've been cliched
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Garr8 wrote:
what i mean is the what are considered anachronisms that are often found in medieval european fantasy. I also want them to have a feudalism like england, but i fear its too cliched. Is it? Or is there a government type that could work just as well for the setting. DO NOT suggest monarchies, they've been cliched
If it's your own make up your own political setting.
A Democratic medieval area could be an interesting change in the genre, but it's what you want.
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You could use primitive communism (no, not socialism, not communism, primitive communism), but you would have to shrink your society down to individual, independent cities/villages.
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Well, rich cities had castles, poorer villages had motte and bailies, check out Wurm online for the whole medieval theme.
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thanks, i have nothing against monarchies and feudalisms, i just think they've been cliched. I have considered a twist where king arthur is evil and Camelot is full of greedy slobs instead of a utopian society.
i also thought about making knights and paladins to different warrior classes. Knights ate knights, while paladins are elite, and like to show individualism and are hired out like mercenaries.
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Garr8 wrote:
thanks, i have nothing against monarchies and feudalisms, i just think they've been cliched. I have considered a twist where king arthur is evil and Camelot is full of greedy slobs instead of a utopian society.
i also thought about making knights and paladins to different warrior classes. Knights ate knights, while paladins are elite, and like to show individualism and are hired out like mercenaries.
Ok
Well that entire thing is, in my opinion, cliche but I would read it because I like the genre and theme so it doesn't really matter to me
I think you have some good ideas!
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Garr8 wrote:
actually i'd like to steer entirely away from king arthur and maybe create a society that is ruled by a democracy or theocracy.
I still say primitive communism, because then you can have a twist where someone tries to transform it into a monarchy. Plus I've never heard of a fantasy story using that economic/political system.
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Garr8 wrote:
what's the difference between a communism and a primitive communism?
Primitive communism is basically when you have a small group of people, usually hunter-gatherers, who share everything they have, and no one competes for a profit. People economically and politically are equal although occasionally you may have a leader who directs the actions of the group. Basically communism, but shrunk down to a tiny group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism
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Garr8 wrote:
primitive communisms sounds similar to a tribal society to me
True, it isn't that advanced, but it is slightly more advanced.
I dunno, I would just be interested to see it utilized anywhere besides political arguments.
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Garr8 wrote:
i could use it as an economical system
No money just sharing economically?
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soupoftomato wrote:
Garr8 wrote:
i could use it as an economical system
No money just sharing economically?
i dont want to use the traditional gold and silver standard. Since equestrians are expensive, i think i could make it to where your wealth is determined by the healthiness, cleaniness, and the number of horses you own. I could use it to make an aristocratic society where the rulers have the best horses.
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Yay, another fantasy writer!!!
Develop you character(s). Make sure that your family members can easily see early on in your story how each character feels, what their personality is, ect.
Make your characters natural. Instead of having a character say, "My mother has decided that I must give every family member a certian amount of food rations to keep us from dying a terribly hungry death," say "My mom says I've got to give the little kids lunch or they'll be mad."
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Appaloosa wrote:
Yay, another fantasy writer!!!
Develop you character(s). Make sure that your family members can easily see early on in your story how each character feels, what their personality is, ect.
Make your characters natural. Instead of having a character say, "My mother has decided that I must give every family member a certian amount of food rations to keep us from dying a terribly hungry death," say "My mom says I've got to give the little kids lunch or they'll be mad."
im currently making the outline for another story about an empire based off the Aztecs.
Oh, and to make my characters natural, i made my protagonist unattractive but not ugly. He is also rascist and is terrified of ghosts.
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Garr8 wrote:
Appaloosa wrote:
Yay, another fantasy writer!!!
Develop you character(s). Make sure that your family members can easily see early on in your story how each character feels, what their personality is, ect.
Make your characters natural. Instead of having a character say, "My mother has decided that I must give every family member a certian amount of food rations to keep us from dying a terribly hungry death," say "My mom says I've got to give the little kids lunch or they'll be mad."
im currently making the outline for another story about an empire based off the Aztecs.
Oh, and to make my characters natural, i made my protagonist unattractive but not ugly. He is also rascist and is terrified of ghosts.
Good!
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I can post some Wurm logs from my raid here if it helps.
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In my stories, I usually avoid clichés by doing something that would disturb the majority that are linked to it (eg Communist America). I'd suggest you create a society in the medevil times that almost defies modern standards, that usually hooks people in good.
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