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#1 2011-12-31 16:19:25

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Do you think this is too cliche?

The bad guy is a drug dealer. That's the basic premise. One of the friends working on our film, the co-writer (I'm the chief writer), says that that's too cliche. I argue that it's our first film, so it doesn't need to be that non-cliche, but he just doesn't agree. But it's also party due to the fact that the story has an exploding car in it. He says that we should leave special effects like that until at least our third film.

Do you think it's too cliche?

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#2 2011-12-31 16:20:37

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

calebxy wrote:

The bad guy is a drug dealer. That's the basic premise. One of the friends working on our film, the co-writer (I'm the chief writer), says that that's too cliche. I argue that it's our first film, so it doesn't need to be that non-cliche, but he just doesn't agree. But it's also party due to the fact that the story has an exploding car in it. He says that we should leave special effects like that until at least our third film.

Do you think it's too cliche?

Yep, too cliche.

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#3 2011-12-31 16:21:19

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

No

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#4 2011-12-31 16:21:46

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

What if the main character was a drug dealer?  And maybe he/she is the bad guy?

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#5 2011-12-31 16:22:36

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

If he's going to be a drug dealer, how about having him deal them in fruit and sell it to unsuspecting people?  tongue

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#6 2011-12-31 16:24:25

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

CheeseMunchy wrote:

calebxy wrote:

The bad guy is a drug dealer. That's the basic premise. One of the friends working on our film, the co-writer (I'm the chief writer), says that that's too cliche. I argue that it's our first film, so it doesn't need to be that non-cliche, but he just doesn't agree. But it's also party due to the fact that the story has an exploding car in it. He says that we should leave special effects like that until at least our third film.

Do you think it's too cliche?

Yep, too cliche.

In what way? I mean, it's not like it's unrealistic, and I hardly ever seen it being used in films, actually.

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#7 2011-12-31 16:25:19

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

calebxy wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

calebxy wrote:

The bad guy is a drug dealer. That's the basic premise. One of the friends working on our film, the co-writer (I'm the chief writer), says that that's too cliche. I argue that it's our first film, so it doesn't need to be that non-cliche, but he just doesn't agree. But it's also party due to the fact that the story has an exploding car in it. He says that we should leave special effects like that until at least our third film.

Do you think it's too cliche?

Yep, too cliche.

and I hardly ever seen it being used in films, actually.

Ya, sureee.

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#8 2011-12-31 16:25:32

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

film?

you're working on a film?

how does that work

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#9 2011-12-31 16:27:19

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

CheeseMunchy wrote:

calebxy wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:


Yep, too cliche.

and I hardly ever seen it being used in films, actually.

Ya, sureee.

Give examples, then.

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#10 2011-12-31 16:28:22

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

videogame9 wrote:

film?

you're working on a film?

how does that work

He says "We could make an actual film." I reply "Yes, we could, couldn't we?"

I believe those were the exact words.

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#11 2011-12-31 16:29:13

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

calebxy wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

calebxy wrote:

and I hardly ever seen it being used in films, actually.

Ya, sureee.

Give examples, then.

Every episode of MacGyver and A Team.

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#12 2011-12-31 16:30:34

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

CheeseMunchy wrote:

calebxy wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:


Ya, sureee.

Give examples, then.

Every episode of MacGyver and A Team.

Alright, but those are old. I've never seen it been used recently, and it's actually a realistic plot device.

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#13 2011-12-31 16:33:08

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

Give him an orbital drug cannon to infect the world with addiction so he'll be rich. The plit could be a race against time to stop it from activating.

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#14 2011-12-31 16:33:36

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

calebxy wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

calebxy wrote:


Give examples, then.

Every episode of MacGyver and A Team.

Alright, but those are old. I've never seen it been used recently, and it's actually a realistic plot device.

As I said before, twist it up.  Maybe the bad guy could be the main character instead.

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#15 2011-12-31 16:34:19

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

Earthboundjeff wrote:

Give him an orbital drug cannon to infect the world with addiction so he'll be rich. The plit could be a race against time to stop it from activating.

lol

That sounds awesome.

Except whenever I hear 'cannon' I immediately think of Linebeck from 'The Phantom Hourglass'.

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#16 2011-12-31 16:34:31

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

calebxy wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

calebxy wrote:


Give examples, then.

Every episode of MacGyver and A Team.

Alright, but those are old. I've never seen it been used recently, and it's actually a realistic plot device.

Oh, never knew that.[/sarcasm]

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#17 2011-12-31 16:35:36

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

PlutoIsHades wrote:

calebxy wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:


Every episode of MacGyver and A Team.

Alright, but those are old. I've never seen it been used recently, and it's actually a realistic plot device.

As I said before, twist it up.  Maybe the bad guy could be the main character instead.

Nah, too much of a twist for a first film, sorry.

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#18 2011-12-31 16:36:08

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

It doesn't sound too cliche to me.

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#19 2011-12-31 16:36:42

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

Earthboundjeff wrote:

Give him an orbital drug cannon to infect the world with addiction so he'll be rich. The plit could be a race against time to stop it from activating.

This is suppose to be a realistic film. For instance, more like the Jason Bourne films than the James Bond films (though with better camerawork  tongue ).

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#20 2011-12-31 16:37:20

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

calebxy wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

calebxy wrote:


Alright, but those are old. I've never seen it been used recently, and it's actually a realistic plot device.

As I said before, twist it up.  Maybe the bad guy could be the main character instead.

Nah, too much of a twist for a first film, sorry.

How is that harder than the "good guy" being the main character?  You've written lots of stories before so it's not like you're new to creating characters.

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#21 2011-12-31 16:37:45

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

CheeseMunchy wrote:

calebxy wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

Every episode of MacGyver and A Team.

Alright, but those are old. I've never seen it been used recently, and it's actually a realistic plot device.

Oh, never knew that.[/sarcasm]

Which one?

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#22 2011-12-31 16:37:45

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

It's cliche in books.
So far, only The House Of The Scorpion has been able to pull it off, BECAUSE, it has a completely original idea behind it.

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#23 2011-12-31 16:38:21

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

Dinoclor wrote:

It's cliche in books.
So far, only The House Of The Scorpion has been able to pull it off, BECAUSE, it has a completely original idea behind it.

I liked that book except for the ending.

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#24 2011-12-31 16:38:56

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

PlutoIsHades wrote:

calebxy wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:


As I said before, twist it up.  Maybe the bad guy could be the main character instead.

Nah, too much of a twist for a first film, sorry.

How is that harder than the "good guy" being the main character?  You've written lots of stories before so it's not like you're new to creating characters.

It's not necessarily harder, but it's not the sort of thing I'd like to do for a first film.

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#25 2011-12-31 16:40:15

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Re: Do you think this is too cliche?

calebxy wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

calebxy wrote:


Nah, too much of a twist for a first film, sorry.

How is that harder than the "good guy" being the main character?  You've written lots of stories before so it's not like you're new to creating characters.

It's not necessarily harder, but it's not the sort of thing I'd like to do for a first film.

Why?  Sorry, just curious.

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