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#76 2011-12-27 11:16:16

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

Dawgles wrote:

What happened "this past evening"? It just looks like you're shooting for a moderator spot from this perspective.

A troll attack.  I'm not sure how long the attack went on, but by the time I got on, Paddle2See was on in about 5-10 minutes.


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#77 2011-12-27 11:35:31

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

MoreGamesNow wrote:

Dawgles wrote:

What happened "this past evening"? It just looks like you're shooting for a moderator spot from this perspective.

A troll attack.  I'm not sure how long the attack went on, but by the time I got on, Paddle2See was on in about 5-10 minutes.

It was about 15 minutes: not an altogether long time, but the moderators weren't on, so it was quite a consistent pattern.

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#78 2011-12-27 11:39:10

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

coolstuff wrote:

MoreGamesNow wrote:

Dawgles wrote:

What happened "this past evening"? It just looks like you're shooting for a moderator spot from this perspective.

A troll attack.  I'm not sure how long the attack went on, but by the time I got on, Paddle2See was on in about 5-10 minutes.

It was about 15 minutes: not an altogether long time, but the moderators weren't on, so it was quite a consistent pattern.

Eekk, perhaps we need more moderators.

BTW, coolstuff, your 4 posts away from hitting 10,000.


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#79 2011-12-27 11:39:59

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

stevetheipad wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

MoreGamesNow wrote:


A troll attack.  I'm not sure how long the attack went on, but by the time I got on, Paddle2See was on in about 5-10 minutes.

It was about 15 minutes: not an altogether long time, but the moderators weren't on, so it was quite a consistent pattern.

Eekk, perhaps we need more moderators.

BTW, coolstuff, your 4 posts away from hitting 10,000.

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#80 2011-12-27 11:41:24

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

Dawgles wrote:

What happened "this past evening"? It just looks like you're shooting for a moderator spot from this perspective.

The problem is that people who were not there don't understand how serious this is  hmm


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#81 2011-12-27 11:48:00

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

JJROCKER wrote:

Dawgles wrote:

What happened "this past evening"? It just looks like you're shooting for a moderator spot from this perspective.

The problem is that people who were not there don't understand how serious this is  hmm

What kind of spam?

Like random posts or inappropriate words and all?


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#82 2011-12-27 11:56:27

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

stevetheipad wrote:

JJROCKER wrote:

Dawgles wrote:

What happened "this past evening"? It just looks like you're shooting for a moderator spot from this perspective.

The problem is that people who were not there don't understand how serious this is  hmm

What kind of spam?

Like random posts or inappropriate words and all?

Pictures of gay and straight behaviour, very very bad.

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#83 2011-12-27 11:57:49

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

Let's see.

If there are seven moderators and admins, which may seem like a lot.
However, there are 967,416 registered members. That is a lot of people, even if some of them aren't currently active. So, seven people have to control about 900,000 people.

Even with censor words, new scratcher status and link control, there should be more users with the ability to delete these spam/troll posts.


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#84 2011-12-27 12:05:01

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

stevetheipad wrote:

Let's see.

If there are seven moderators and admins, which may seem like a lot.
However, there are 967,416 registered members. That is a lot of people, even if some of them aren't currently active. So, seven people have to control about 900,000 people.

Even with censor words, new scratcher status and link control, there should be more users with the ability to delete these spam/troll posts.

Or give everyone the abilty to do so via the vote system.

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#85 2011-12-27 12:10:00

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

JJROCKER wrote:

Dawgles wrote:

What happened "this past evening"? It just looks like you're shooting for a moderator spot from this perspective.

The problem is that people who were not there don't understand how serious this is  hmm

Please explain to me how serious I'm meant to find this. From "a troll attack" I gather that someone came on and swore a lot at people or something similar?

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#86 2011-12-27 12:11:09

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

Dawgles wrote:

JJROCKER wrote:

Dawgles wrote:

What happened "this past evening"? It just looks like you're shooting for a moderator spot from this perspective.

The problem is that people who were not there don't understand how serious this is  hmm

Please explain to me how serious I'm meant to find this. From "a troll attack" I gather that someone came on and swore a lot at people or something similar?

Sounds like it included pictures, swearing and just plain trolling.

but, let's talk about how to fix the problem.


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#87 2011-12-27 12:20:16

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

stevetheipad wrote:

So, seven people have to control about 900,000 people.

hmm  I'd say more around 1,000-1,500 people on the forums. Active ones: Maybe 300-400

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#88 2011-12-27 12:24:59

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

laptop97 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

So, seven people have to control about 900,000 people.

hmm  I'd say more around 1,000-1,500 people on the forums. Active ones: Maybe 300-400

Okay!
But even 100 people would be a lot.


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#89 2011-12-27 12:30:04

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

How about all links and images (not including the forum smileys like  tongue ), have to be checked in advance by a selected few scratchers and then published?
That way the images will be published fast (allow about 10 additional well-behaved reputable Scratchers to do this so there is more chance that 1 will be on) but still checked. ^^

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#90 2011-12-27 12:41:22

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

How about all links and images (not including the forum smileys like  tongue ), have to be checked in advance by a selected few scratchers and then published?
That way the images will be published fast (allow about 10 additional well-behaved reputable Scratchers to do this so there is more chance that 1 will be on) but still checked. ^^

I think that the vote system is better


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#91 2011-12-27 12:43:48

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

Dawgles wrote:

Please explain to me how serious I'm meant to find this. From "a troll attack" I gather that someone came on and swore a lot at people or something similar?

There was actually very little (if any) swearing.  It mostly consisted of images with very strong (intentional) sexual content.


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#92 2011-12-27 12:50:53

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

muppetds wrote:

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

How about all links and images (not including the forum smileys like  tongue ), have to be checked in advance by a selected few scratchers and then published?
That way the images will be published fast (allow about 10 additional well-behaved reputable Scratchers to do this so there is more chance that 1 will be on) but still checked. ^^

I think that the vote system is better

As pointed out by many people, the population of Scratch is simply to large to try to moderate it all 24/7 without far too many moderators.  Restricting all images seems pretty severe and makes the work load of the moderators crippling.  The vote system should narrow down what the moderators have to look through AND be instantaneous.  However, as noted by Paddle2See, adding this at the same time that Scratch 2.0 is coming out is difficult.  I'm not sure how the website is programmed, and what they have to deal with, but simply thinking about it makes me shudder.  I am cautiously optimistic that we'll be fine without such a vote system until Scratch 2.0.  Certainly it is important, but I think the attack was an isolated incident.

Only after the event is everyone clamoring for more security (sorry, that doesn't sound grammatically correct).  But what we have to remember is that now is after the attack.  A sudden clamp down won't fix the past, and, based on the past, this was an isolated incident.  An immediate solution is not necessarily necessary.


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#93 2011-12-27 13:27:55

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

Dawgles wrote:

What happened "this past evening"? It just looks like you're shooting for a moderator spot from this perspective.

I'm in no way interested in running for moderator. I used to in the past, however for the most part, the forum aspects including reading misc threads, closing, moving, doesn't interest me as it used to. This thread is simply to help organize ideas to prevent this type of "trolling" from reoccuring.


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#94 2011-12-27 13:29:19

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

MoreGamesNow wrote:

Dawgles wrote:

Please explain to me how serious I'm meant to find this. From "a troll attack" I gather that someone came on and swore a lot at people or something similar?

There was actually very little (if any) swearing.  It mostly consisted of images with very strong (intentional) sexual content.

Nope, there was a ton of both.


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#95 2011-12-27 13:35:00

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

stevetheipad wrote:

Let's see.

If there are seven moderators and admins, which may seem like a lot.
However, there are 967,416 registered members. That is a lot of people, even if some of them aren't currently active. So, seven people have to control about 900,000 people.

Even with censor words, new scratcher status and link control, there should be more users with the ability to delete these spam/troll posts.

This may seem realistic, however controlling "900,000 people" is quite inaccurate. Let's focus primarily on  the forums for now. Only about 1/3 of scratchers have even VISITED the forums. So that's 300,000. Also, not many people view them daily -- let's say, a few thousand? Lastly, there is the report button so moderators can easily get reports of problems. It isn't that bad.


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#96 2011-12-27 13:41:26

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

How about all links and images (not including the forum smileys like  tongue ), have to be checked in advance by a selected few scratchers and then published?
That way the images will be published fast (allow about 10 additional well-behaved reputable Scratchers to do this so there is more chance that 1 will be on) but still checked. ^^

I Was about to say that!  hmm


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#97 2011-12-27 13:46:51

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

CheckItNow12 wrote:

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

How about all links and images (not including the forum smileys like  tongue ), have to be checked in advance by a selected few scratchers and then published?
That way the images will be published fast (allow about 10 additional well-behaved reputable Scratchers to do this so there is more chance that 1 will be on) but still checked. ^^

I Was about to say that!  hmm

That's just a disaster waiting to happen.

9/10 Images posted aren't bad and people shouldn't have to submit their image before being able to post it. And it still wouldn't help that much, people could still say things that aren't appropriate.


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#98 2011-12-27 15:10:24

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

stevetheipad wrote:

CheckItNow12 wrote:

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

How about all links and images (not including the forum smileys like  tongue ), have to be checked in advance by a selected few scratchers and then published?
That way the images will be published fast (allow about 10 additional well-behaved reputable Scratchers to do this so there is more chance that 1 will be on) but still checked. ^^

I Was about to say that!  hmm

That's just a disaster waiting to happen.

9/10 Images posted aren't bad and people shouldn't have to submit their image before being able to post it. And it still wouldn't help that much, people could still say things that aren't appropriate.

Yeah, but most images aren't CRITICAL to posts (like meme responses) so is it REALLY that bad? You can always approve images from certain sites anyway. ^^


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#99 2011-12-27 15:11:46

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Re: The Event That Has Taken Place This Past Evening

Meh. I like the voting thing.


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