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#1 2011-12-20 21:44:30

bananaman114
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If a tree falls in the forest,

and no-one is in the area to hear it (there is no way to hear it!) does it make a sound?
Discuss.
I think that it mightn't, but it should.


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#2 2011-12-20 21:45:39

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

Of course it does, it doesn't go "Quickly, nobody's nearby, be as silent as possible!".

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#3 2011-12-20 21:45:50

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

Argggh I don't know
I don't think it does, because it's just sound waves until it hits your eardrum


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#4 2011-12-20 22:01:35

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

What?
I was camping once and I heard 1 tree fall (with a hugh WAM) nearby,

and few minutes later I heard another.


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#5 2011-12-20 22:06:21

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

Yes. It is human arrogance to think sounds only exist for us to hear.

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#6 2011-12-20 22:09:42

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

It would make a big sound  tongue


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#7 2011-12-20 22:11:20

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

CheeseMunchy wrote:

What?
I was camping once and I heard 1 tree fall (with a hugh WAM) nearby,

and few minutes later I heard another.

But you were in a vacinity to hear it.
You have no way to prove that it makes a sound if there's no way to hear it when it falls.


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#8 2011-12-20 22:12:06

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

bananaman114 wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

What?
I was camping once and I heard 1 tree fall (with a hugh WAM) nearby,

and few minutes later I heard another.

But you were in a vacinity to hear it.
You have no way to prove that it makes a sound if there's no way to hear it when it falls.

Set up cameras.


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#9 2011-12-20 22:12:13

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

There is a sound (nothing is stopping waves from traveling through the air).  But if the affect on all living things is zero, does it matter?  Or, to go a level deeper, if someone/something dies, and nobody will ever be effected by them in anyway, were they already dead?  Is life defined by interactions?


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#10 2011-12-20 22:12:16

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

bananaman114 wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

What?
I was camping once and I heard 1 tree fall (with a hugh WAM) nearby,

and few minutes later I heard another.

But you were in a vacinity to hear it.
You have no way to prove that it makes a sound if there's no way to hear it when it falls.

There's more proof that it does than there is that it doesn't.

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#11 2011-12-20 22:12:17

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

Well there are animals around.


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#12 2011-12-20 22:13:21

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

JJROCKER wrote:

Well there are animals around.

Ya, we can always ask them.


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#13 2011-12-20 22:14:52

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

CheeseMunchy wrote:

JJROCKER wrote:

Well there are animals around.

Ya, we can always ask them.

Yeah, that's what I meant.


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#14 2011-12-20 22:15:07

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

If a woman says something and no men hear her..

Is she still right?

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#15 2011-12-20 22:15:12

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

HYPOTHETICALLY. If a tree were to fall in a barren wasteland devoid of life, would it make a sound? Devoid of technology. There is nothing but the ground and this tree.


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#16 2011-12-20 22:20:02

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

bananaman114 wrote:

HYPOTHETICALLY. If a tree were to fall in a barren wasteland devoid of life, would it make a sound? Devoid of technology. There is nothing but the ground and this tree.

Well the sound waves would not travel far.


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#17 2011-12-20 22:55:35

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

Yes, it does make a sound. There's no way to prove it, but there's no way to prove it otherwise either, so we take the initial belief. It should make a sound, so it will.


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#18 2011-12-20 23:08:29

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

It does...
It makes a sound, but no one can hear it, because they are too far away.


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#19 2011-12-20 23:14:00

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

The laws of physics are still present regardless if anyone is there to observe them.


my-chemical-romance wrote:

If a woman says something and no men hear her..

Is she still right?

If you want to go into gender equality, make a new thread.


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#20 2011-12-21 05:45:22

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

my-chemical-romance wrote:

If a woman says something and no men hear her..

Is she still right?

Sexist much?


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#21 2011-12-21 05:47:41

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

my-chemical-romance wrote:

If a woman says something and no men hear her..

Is she still right?

Um...
I'd say that's pretty sexist.


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#22 2011-12-21 07:26:46

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

Until you observe it, it both does and doesn't.
Quantum theory  big_smile


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#23 2011-12-21 07:28:53

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

Actually, this can happen.

If there was a forest on the moon, or on a planet with no atmosphere, and a tree fell, no one would hear it. Sound does not travel in space.

Simple  big_smile


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#24 2011-12-21 08:16:20

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

Yes.

A sound is created with a vibration, which is how speakers work: vibrating in and out hundreds of times a minute. Ever felt a speaker as it's playing?
When the tree falls, it creates a big vibration, creating a loud sound.

Just nobody heard it.

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#25 2011-12-21 10:07:09

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Re: If a tree falls in the forest,

undefeatedgames wrote:

Actually, this can happen.

If there was a forest on the moon, or on a planet with no atmosphere, and a tree fell, no one would hear it. Sound does not travel in space.

Simple  big_smile

It'd still make sound, and why would a tree be somewhere without an atmosphere?

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