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#26 2011-12-14 14:59:18

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Re: What makes a good villain?

calebxy wrote:

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

They should have a detailed past. Villains don't wake up one day as a kid and claim, "I'm going to destroy the world."

Oh, just me then?

Yeah, just you.

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#27 2011-12-14 15:08:51

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Re: What makes a good villain?

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

calebxy wrote:

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

They should have a detailed past. Villains don't wake up one day as a kid and claim, "I'm going to destroy the world."

Oh, just me then?

Yeah, just you.

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#28 2011-12-14 15:09:03

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Re: What makes a good villain?

They should be interesting enough that you can see why they might do what they do but not so much that you start rooting for them.
Edit: If you don't feel like actually making a good villain, make them foreign. Accents are good.

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#29 2011-12-14 15:09:55

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Re: What makes a good villain?

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A very clever person with a sketchy past... or one that used to be a hero, but went rouge.

Interesting. Veeeery interesting. *strokes evil pretend beard*


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#30 2011-12-14 16:06:20

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Re: What makes a good villain?

They should have a reason for being evil. Maybe they see themsleves as good guys that are trying to take over the baddies. Perhaps they were abused as a child and are confused about and blames a certain race of people.


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#31 2011-12-14 16:08:07

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Re: What makes a good villain?

svinnik wrote:

They should have a reason for being evil. Maybe they see themsleves as good guys that are trying to take over the baddies. Perhaps they were abused as a child and are confused about and blames a certain race of people.

I agree. But I have a request. chat on Story network please?


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#32 2011-12-14 16:10:57

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Re: What makes a good villain?

calebxy wrote:

svinnik wrote:

They should have a reason for being evil. Maybe they see themsleves as good guys that are trying to take over the baddies. Perhaps they were abused as a child and are confused about and blames a certain race of people.

I agree. But I have a request. chat on Story network please?

kk. on now.


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#33 2011-12-14 16:21:21

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Re: What makes a good villain?

svinnik wrote:

calebxy wrote:

svinnik wrote:

They should have a reason for being evil. Maybe they see themsleves as good guys that are trying to take over the baddies. Perhaps they were abused as a child and are confused about and blames a certain race of people.

I agree. But I have a request. chat on Story network please?

kk. on now.

cal, I got a problem with pass.


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#34 2011-12-14 16:24:27

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Re: What makes a good villain?

svinnik wrote:

svinnik wrote:

calebxy wrote:

I agree. But I have a request. chat on Story network please?

kk. on now.

cal, I got a problem with pass.

For your account on Storynetwork?

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#35 2011-12-14 16:30:23

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Re: What makes a good villain?

calebxy wrote:

CloneCommando1 wrote:

A very clever person with a sketchy past... or one that used to be a hero, but went rouge.

Interesting. Veeeery interesting. *strokes evil pretend beard*

Ta-da. Also, I suggest not makeing the sidekick(s) complete moron(s). Don't you just hate movies and books where the second-in-command is a complete idiot?


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#36 2011-12-14 16:33:58

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Re: What makes a good villain?

CloneCommando1 wrote:

calebxy wrote:

CloneCommando1 wrote:

A very clever person with a sketchy past... or one that used to be a hero, but went rouge.

Interesting. Veeeery interesting. *strokes evil pretend beard*

Ta-da. Also, I suggest not makeing the sidekick(s) complete moron(s). Don't you just hate movies and books where the second-in-command is a complete idiot?

Yes, I do actually.  tongue


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#37 2011-12-14 17:20:45

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Re: What makes a good villain?

Every villian needs a well-developed backstory! Examples: Galbatorix, Cassandra (Doctor Who FTW), Erik (the Phantom of the Opera), ect. I think it's a good idea to explore your villain's past so that readers can understand where he/she is coming from. I personaly like to be able to be a bit sympathetic towards a villian. Classic example? Erik once again. You don't even have to go too deep into their story. Just from seeing the musical I felt bad for him in part because of the lines "This face which earned a mother's fear and loathing/ A mask- my first unfeeling scrap of clothing..." (And then the Susan Kay book which I won't go into).

Yeah, it really depends on how much of a challenge you want to make your villain if you want to give them a weakness or not. If you do, try not to make it too obvious!

I agree with whoever said accents! Love it  smile

@CloneCommando1: Of course, we have examples of the villain being a bit of an idiot  tongue  But yeah, second in command shouldn't be a bumbling idiot.

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#38 2011-12-14 17:28:25

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Re: What makes a good villain?

He stood there in the doorway looking down at William. He looked like he was the same size as many of the academy students. He wore a helmet with narrow slits for his eyes. And they were shaded and looked like dark holes.
   "So here is the boy who messed up my robot." He picked up Williams gun off the floor "I think that this may come in handy."
   "Who are you? What are you doing in my house?" William asked. He was slowly trying to sneak backwards. Towards where he kept his spare pistol.
   "Let's just say... I'm someone who knows about the corruptness of the Space Academy, and of your so called 'Galatic Star Defenders'" He pulled out his gun and began toying with it in his hands. "You think you know what those so called 'peace keepers' are really about? Well then think again kid. They destroy wealthy trading systems and do...


Get my gist? I tried to base it off of your story, the part where William stops the killer robot  tongue
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#39 2011-12-14 18:18:18

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Re: What makes a good villain?

The ability to control his/her underlings by using fear (Redwall examples: Gulo, Tsarmina, etc.)


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#40 2011-12-14 18:20:56

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Re: What makes a good villain?

what makes a good villain?
pure evil
either that or your christopher carrion who came back to life and decided that his sole purpose was to rid the world of love

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#41 2011-12-14 18:37:34

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Re: What makes a good villain?

Destroying/taking over the world is a very predictable plot... try something different, like the villain is about to finish setting up his criminal empire, or help terrorists kill all the inhabitants of a city. Don't be afraid to let your villain show-off some of his power either, let him be the winner of some key events.


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#42 2011-12-14 20:44:36

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Re: What makes a good villain?

Villains usually have a nemesis who seems to have hatred on a specific character that seems to have power. Here's something good. Pretend Arron has a powerful skill.

"That Arron," Flare said. "I will kill him at all costs. He is the only one holding me back from  my goal."

Also, they should have names that aren't regular, such as Tom or Bob.

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#43 2011-12-14 20:58:26

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Re: What makes a good villain?

A bit of not having any feelings at all.

Psychopathic.

UNTIL something forgotten in their past shows up.


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#44 2011-12-14 21:38:43

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Re: What makes a good villain?

just look at ghirahim or ganondorf


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#45 2011-12-15 03:13:56

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Re: What makes a good villain?

rabbit1131 wrote:

He stood there in the doorway looking down at William. He looked like he was the same size as many of the academy students. He wore a helmet with narrow slits for his eyes. And they were shaded and looked like dark holes.
   "So here is the boy who messed up my robot." He picked up Williams gun off the floor "I think that this may come in handy."
   "Who are you? What are you doing in my house?" William asked. He was slowly trying to sneak backwards. Towards where he kept his spare pistol.
   "Let's just say... I'm someone who knows about the corruptness of the Space Academy, and of your so called 'Galatic Star Defenders'" He pulled out his gun and began toying with it in his hands. "You think you know what those so called 'peace keepers' are really about? Well then think again kid. They destroy wealthy trading systems and do...


Get my gist? I tried to base it off of your story, the part where William stops the killer robot  tongue
Like?

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#46 2011-12-15 03:15:00

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Re: What makes a good villain?

GameHutSoftware wrote:

just look at ghirahim or ganondorf

Who?


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#47 2011-12-15 03:17:23

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Re: What makes a good villain?

ImagineIt wrote:

Villains usually have a nemesis who seems to have hatred on a specific character that seems to have power. Here's something good. Pretend Arron has a powerful skill.

"That Arron," Flare said. "I will kill him at all costs. He is the only one holding me back from  my goal."

Also, they should have names that aren't regular, such as Tom or Bob.

One of the best  villains I have ever come across was Tom Riddle.


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#48 2011-12-15 03:44:09

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Re: What makes a good villain?

DarkerWorld wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

Villains usually have a nemesis who seems to have hatred on a specific character that seems to have power. Here's something good. Pretend Arron has a powerful skill.

"That Arron," Flare said. "I will kill him at all costs. He is the only one holding me back from  my goal."

Also, they should have names that aren't regular, such as Tom or Bob.

One of the best  villains I have ever come across was Tom Riddle.

From where?


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#49 2011-12-15 03:57:28

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Re: What makes a good villain?

calebxy wrote:

DarkerWorld wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

Villains usually have a nemesis who seems to have hatred on a specific character that seems to have power. Here's something good. Pretend Arron has a powerful skill.

"That Arron," Flare said. "I will kill him at all costs. He is the only one holding me back from  my goal."

Also, they should have names that aren't regular, such as Tom or Bob.

One of the best  villains I have ever come across was Tom Riddle.

From where?

Harry Potter of course.
Anybody who's read all 7 books or watched all 8 movies would know that Lord Voldermort's real name is Tom Marvolo Riddle.


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#50 2011-12-15 04:01:12

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Re: What makes a good villain?

Alternatives wrote:

calebxy wrote:

DarkerWorld wrote:


One of the best  villains I have ever come across was Tom Riddle.

From where?

Harry Potter of course.
Anybody who's read all 7 books or watched all 8 movies would know that Lord Voldermort's real name is Tom Marvolo Riddle.

Oh. Well I've never reads the books nor watched the movies.  tongue


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