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#1 2009-03-21 18:18:05

jokerofsouls
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Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

First of all i Know the subject looks like its from an old rpg game but thats beside the point anyway iwant to know what happened to pokemon trainers nowadays they are obsessed over getting legendaries and using them in their teams first of all i have seen many of teams with arceus. who cares everyone seems to think they need arceus to have a good team they dont two I HATE HACKERS who use action replay to get strong pokemon with no effort whatever happened to hand raising pokemon to get best possible results I remember a time when their wasnt enough legendaries to make a full team and to get a good team they had to use different pokemon that are DIFFERENT TYPES in order to make a good team also what many trainers dont realize that legendary teams 99% of the time have type disadvantage which is why they can easily be beaten

I want you to help me if youhave a team with the requirements above tell me have a link to your trainer card i'll see if its good and iwant you to fight anybody with an all legendary or mostly legendary team and beat them and prove them wrong please i beg you we must end this

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#2 2009-03-21 18:26:54

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

I remember when there was only 150 pokemon, I got them all back in the day. Every team in red/blue had I full legendary team when I played.

Pokemon is a lot harder than most people think, there are a lot of complex strategies.

If you want to win and there isn't a limit on legendarys then you should just use Uber tier pokemon.

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Of course arceus is a must as it is the best monster in the game.


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#3 2009-03-21 20:01:38

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

Yeah, I hate hackers that play games online. For example, whenever I play Mario Kart DS online, I usually always face a hacker. And IT'S REALLY TICKING ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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#4 2009-03-21 20:27:41

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

MKDS online doesn't have a lot of hackers but most people snake. That is probably why you keep losing, not because of hacking.


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#5 2009-03-22 08:39:52

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

I don't have a trianer card, but I have a strong team with no legendaries. Let me go up against an all legendary team. All are level 100.


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#6 2009-03-22 11:12:56

jokerofsouls
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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

djm111 wrote:

I don't have a trianer card, but I have a strong team with no legendaries. Let me go up against an all legendary team. All are level 100.

well just tell me your team i'll rate it please include stats ability moves and pp for the moves

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#7 2009-03-23 12:52:57

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

jokerofsouls wrote:

djm111 wrote:

I don't have a trianer card, but I have a strong team with no legendaries. Let me go up against an all legendary team. All are level 100.

well just tell me your team i'll rate it please include stats ability moves and pp for the moves

1. Garchomp
HP 404 ATK 352 DEF 263 SP. ATK 244 SP. DEF 213 SPEED 312
Moves:
Dragon Rush. PP10
Crunch. PP15
Earthquake PP10
Flamethrower PP15
2. Lucario
HP337 ATK 311 DEF 221 SP. ATK 302 SP.DEF 215 SPEED 264
Moves:
Extremespeed PP5
DRAGON PULSE PP10
REVERSAL PP15
AURA SPHERE PP20
3. Yanmega
HP 369 ATK 257 DEF 269 SP.ATK283 SP.DEF 198 SPEED 273
MOVES:
AIR SLASH PP20
BUG BUZZ PP10
U-TURN PP20
PROTECT PP10
4. Metagross
HP 351 ATK 342 DEF 347 SP.ATK 259 SP.DEF 246 SPEED 221
MOVES:
HAMMER ARM PP10
METEOR MASH PP10
PSYCHIC PP10
BULLET PUNCH PP30
5. GLISCOR
HP 332 ATK 274 DEF 341 SP.ATK 199 SP.DEF 236 SPEED 255
MOVES
U-TURN PP20
NIGHT SLASH PP15
EARTHQUAKE PP10
STONE EDGE PP8
6. ELECTIVIRE
HP 347 ATK 376 DEF 224 SP.ATK 247 SP.DEF 243 SPEED 271

Good type coverage, and Electivire owns.


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#8 2009-03-23 13:43:18

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

I just got platinum so I am going to try building a super team. Also blissy is a must for a non legendary team. The wish move is really good.


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#9 2009-03-23 15:12:35

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

archmage wrote:

I just got platinum so I am going to try building a super team. Also blissy is a must for a non legendary team. The wish move is really good.

I like Blissey, but she ets owned by a Good attack Pokemon. My Electivire can 2HKO any Blissey.

I love Giratina's Origin form. Because of his types and ability, ground, normal and fighting type moves have no effect.


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#10 2009-03-24 15:30:23

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

djm111 wrote:

jokerofsouls wrote:

djm111 wrote:

I don't have a trianer card, but I have a strong team with no legendaries. Let me go up against an all legendary team. All are level 100.

well just tell me your team i'll rate it please include stats ability moves and pp for the moves

1. Garchomp
HP 404 ATK 352 DEF 263 SP. ATK 244 SP. DEF 213 SPEED 312
Moves:
Dragon Rush. PP10
Crunch. PP15
Earthquake PP10
Flamethrower PP15
2. Lucario
HP337 ATK 311 DEF 221 SP. ATK 302 SP.DEF 215 SPEED 264
Moves:
Extremespeed PP5
DRAGON PULSE PP10
REVERSAL PP15
AURA SPHERE PP20
3. Yanmega
HP 369 ATK 257 DEF 269 SP.ATK283 SP.DEF 198 SPEED 273
MOVES:
AIR SLASH PP20
BUG BUZZ PP10
U-TURN PP20
PROTECT PP10
4. Metagross
HP 351 ATK 342 DEF 347 SP.ATK 259 SP.DEF 246 SPEED 221
MOVES:
HAMMER ARM PP10
METEOR MASH PP10
PSYCHIC PP10
BULLET PUNCH PP30
5. GLISCOR
HP 332 ATK 274 DEF 341 SP.ATK 199 SP.DEF 236 SPEED 255
MOVES
U-TURN PP20
NIGHT SLASH PP15
EARTHQUAKE PP10
STONE EDGE PP8
6. ELECTIVIRE
HP 347 ATK 376 DEF 224 SP.ATK 247 SP.DEF 243 SPEED 271

Good type coverage, and Electivire owns.

Good team kill any legendary team you find i havent seen a team this good for a while

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#11 2009-03-25 12:26:15

djm111
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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

jokerofsouls wrote:

djm111 wrote:

jokerofsouls wrote:


well just tell me your team i'll rate it please include stats ability moves and pp for the moves

1. Garchomp
HP 404 ATK 352 DEF 263 SP. ATK 244 SP. DEF 213 SPEED 312
Moves:
Dragon Rush. PP10
Crunch. PP15
Earthquake PP10
Flamethrower PP15
2. Lucario
HP337 ATK 311 DEF 221 SP. ATK 302 SP.DEF 215 SPEED 264
Moves:
Extremespeed PP5
DRAGON PULSE PP10
REVERSAL PP15
AURA SPHERE PP20
3. Yanmega
HP 369 ATK 257 DEF 269 SP.ATK283 SP.DEF 198 SPEED 273
MOVES:
AIR SLASH PP20
BUG BUZZ PP10
U-TURN PP20
PROTECT PP10
4. Metagross
HP 351 ATK 342 DEF 347 SP.ATK 259 SP.DEF 246 SPEED 221
MOVES:
HAMMER ARM PP10
METEOR MASH PP10
PSYCHIC PP10
BULLET PUNCH PP30
5. GLISCOR
HP 332 ATK 274 DEF 341 SP.ATK 199 SP.DEF 236 SPEED 255
MOVES
U-TURN PP20
NIGHT SLASH PP15
EARTHQUAKE PP10
STONE EDGE PP8
6. ELECTIVIRE
HP 347 ATK 376 DEF 224 SP.ATK 247 SP.DEF 243 SPEED 271

Good type coverage, and Electivire owns.

Good team kill any legendary team you find i havent seen a team this good for a while

Thanks. I have killed legendary teams before. And I've taught Electivire a new move to replace fire punch.
Seriously, Yanmega protect to get a free speed boost, when they bring out an electric pokemon, use U-Turn and bring out Electivire. The electric move they use raises his speed, and he gets the power and speed to do a proper sweep.


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#12 2009-03-25 12:28:38

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

Who cares about pokemon? It's stupid


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#13 2009-03-25 15:42:19

djm111
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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

alexpja wrote:

Who cares about pokemon? It's stupid

And yet it's the most money making media franchise there is.
KTHXBAI


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#14 2009-03-27 15:47:18

jokerofsouls
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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

djm111 wrote:

jokerofsouls wrote:

djm111 wrote:


1. Garchomp
HP 404 ATK 352 DEF 263 SP. ATK 244 SP. DEF 213 SPEED 312
Moves:
Dragon Rush. PP10
Crunch. PP15
Earthquake PP10
Flamethrower PP15
2. Lucario
HP337 ATK 311 DEF 221 SP. ATK 302 SP.DEF 215 SPEED 264
Moves:
Extremespeed PP5
DRAGON PULSE PP10
REVERSAL PP15
AURA SPHERE PP20
3. Yanmega
HP 369 ATK 257 DEF 269 SP.ATK283 SP.DEF 198 SPEED 273
MOVES:
AIR SLASH PP20
BUG BUZZ PP10
U-TURN PP20
PROTECT PP10
4. Metagross
HP 351 ATK 342 DEF 347 SP.ATK 259 SP.DEF 246 SPEED 221
MOVES:
HAMMER ARM PP10
METEOR MASH PP10
PSYCHIC PP10
BULLET PUNCH PP30
5. GLISCOR
HP 332 ATK 274 DEF 341 SP.ATK 199 SP.DEF 236 SPEED 255
MOVES
U-TURN PP20
NIGHT SLASH PP15
EARTHQUAKE PP10
STONE EDGE PP8
6. ELECTIVIRE
HP 347 ATK 376 DEF 224 SP.ATK 247 SP.DEF 243 SPEED 271

Good type coverage, and Electivire owns.

Good team kill any legendary team you find i havent seen a team this good for a while

Thanks. I have killed legendary teams before. And I've taught Electivire a new move to replace fire punch.
Seriously, Yanmega protect to get a free speed boost, when they bring out an electric pokemon, use U-Turn and bring out Electivire. The electric move they use raises his speed, and he gets the power and speed to do a proper sweep.

Wait i have to ake bac that comment i just found out your team is uber weak to fire and grond its still a good team though

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#15 2009-03-28 09:37:32

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

djm111 wrote:

And yet it's the most money making media franchise there is.
KTHXBAI

wrong. second most after mario

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#16 2009-03-29 10:26:38

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

I used to like pokemon. I had diamond and spent every second of the day pwning noobs online. I knew a lot about technical stuff like effort values and STAB and other things that half the community has never heard of.

My sister got Platinum on the day it came out, and she's up to the sixth gym leader(byron is his name, i think). I helped her construct her team to get through sinnoh. I also gave them some fun and flashy nicknames! REMEMBER: this is not one of those online competitive teams. This is basically a story mode one.

Empoleon/ BlueTux        Staraptor/BirdBrain           Luxray/ Sparky
Grass Knot                      Close Combat                    Bite
Brine                               Fly                                    Swagger
Bide                                Double Team                    Charge
Drill peck                        Quick attack                     Spark

Alakazam/MindGame      Leafeon*                           Lucario/FeelDaAura**
Recover                          Bullet Seed                       Quick Attack
Shadow Ball                    Quick Attack                     Force Palm
Psybeam                         Iron Tail                            Endure
Drain Punch                    Synthesis                          Earthquake


*Leafeon still needs a nickname. Any ideas?
**My sister recently got Lucario, so we are still working on his moveset.

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#17 2009-03-29 10:34:08

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

floatingmagictree wrote:

I used to like pokemon. I had diamond and spent every second of the day pwning noobs online. I knew a lot about technical stuff like effort values and STAB and other things that half the community has never heard of.

My sister got Platinum on the day it came out, and she's up to the sixth gym leader(byron is his name, i think). I helped her construct her team to get through sinnoh. I also gave them some fun and flashy nicknames! REMEMBER: this is not one of those online competitive teams. This is basically a story mode one.

Empoleon/ BlueTux        Staraptor/BirdBrain           Luxray/ Sparky
Grass Knot                      Close Combat                    Bite
Brine                               Fly                                    Swagger
Bide                                Double Team                    Charge
Drill peck                        Quick attack                     Spark

Alakazam/MindGame      Leafeon*                           Lucario/FeelDaAura**
Recover                          Bullet Seed                       Quick Attack
Shadow Ball                    Quick Attack                     Force Palm
Psybeam                         Iron Tail                            Endure
Drain Punch                    Synthesis                          Earthquake


*Leafeon still needs a nickname. Any ideas?
**My sister recently got Lucario, so we are still working on his moveset.

I know about EV training, STAB, etc.
I'd like to give you a game sometime.
Extremespeed is a lot better as a priority move than quic attack, though you can probably teach Lucario Bullet punch which hits ghosts and gets a stab bonus.
I think it's a good team, except 3 of your Pokemon are weak to ground type, and Earthquake is probably the most common move used.
Did you know Giratina Origin Forme isn't affected by normal, fighting or ground type attacks?


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#18 2009-03-29 10:52:51

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

Thanks for the feedback.

I'll definitely teach FeelDaAura Extremespeed. I'm not to keen about bullet punch, though.

djm111 wrote:

Did you know Giratina Origin Forme isn't affected by normal, fighting or ground type attacks?

I kinda knew that already. I'm still experimenting with some useful movesets.

Also,

Can someone PLEASE suggest a nickname for Leafeon?

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#19 2009-03-29 12:02:04

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

floatingmagictree wrote:

Thanks for the feedback.

I'll definitely teach FeelDaAura Extremespeed. I'm not to keen about bullet punch, though.

djm111 wrote:

Did you know Giratina Origin Forme isn't affected by normal, fighting or ground type attacks?

I kinda knew that already. I'm still experimenting with some useful movesets.

Also,

Can someone PLEASE suggest a nickname for Leafeon?

With the STAB bonus, Bullet Punch reaches roughly the same power as extremespeed, and it hits ghosts.

I'm not very good at nicknames, sorry.


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#20 2009-03-29 12:12:51

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

With the 1.5x STAB bonus, bullet punch only reaches a base power of 60. If I remember correctly, Extremespeed has a base power of 80.

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#21 2009-03-29 13:34:37

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

floatingmagictree wrote:

Can someone PLEASE suggest a nickname for Leafeon?

If I were to suggest a nickname, it would probably be from The World Ends with You.

But okay.
Grungewolf
Plantae (lol Kingdom :3)
'Phones
Thorn
Blindleaf

...and it really depends if it's Male or Female.

Can you tell which ones are from tWEWY?

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#22 2009-03-30 18:50:55

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

Instead of thorn, how about RoseThorn? Also, what does 'Phones have to do with leafeon?

@djm111: I taught lucario flash cannon instead of bullet punch. Good amount of PP, huge damage.

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#23 2009-03-30 23:53:50

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

i remember when there were only 150, those were the days, the game has changed so much.

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#24 2009-03-31 12:28:46

djm111
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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

floatingmagictree wrote:

Instead of thorn, how about RoseThorn? Also, what does 'Phones have to do with leafeon?

@djm111: I taught lucario flash cannon instead of bullet punch. Good amount of PP, huge damage.

But which stat does it work off, Atk or SPATK?


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#25 2009-04-04 17:20:00

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Re: Help the pokemon trainers!Save them from illusion!

It works off of SPATK. My Lucario has a higher SPATK than any other stat(meh, his physical movepool is bigger). In a close second is ATK.

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