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#26 2011-11-26 11:44:20

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Re: What IS space?

GravityCatisalie wrote:

DarkerWorld wrote:

calebxy wrote:


Actually, it is possible to go into the future. The faster one travels, the slower time goes for that person, so everything else that isn't travelling at that speed will be going through through time at a faster pace comparatively.

Yeah, but its really messed up, because you go to change something, you change it, and then you have no reason to have gone to the future, thus your past self wouldn't have gone and you most likely won't exist anymore.

Or something like that.

Your past self still would have gone because what you did wouldn't affect the past, or the past self's present. The change would only occur in the future, where you are currently at.
But what's a huge plot hole for science fiction writers is where a person in the future recieves a message from the past that wasn't there before, as it must have been there the whole time due to the message being left in the past. The only way this could happen is if somebody set a timer for the object to appear at that exact moment the person needs to see the message, which would be near impossible due to the person in the past not knowing who will recieve the message.

Oh yeah, its other way around, that's why travelling into the past is impossible. After you succeeded what you went for and changed the future, there wouldn't be a reason to go anymore.


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#27 2011-11-26 11:46:13

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Re: What IS space?

SPAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.


Technically space is a vacuum
so you should be able to create "space".
*paraphrasing previous posts C:


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#28 2011-11-26 11:56:06

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Re: What IS space?

DarkerWorld wrote:

GravityCatisalie wrote:

DarkerWorld wrote:


Yeah, but its really messed up, because you go to change something, you change it, and then you have no reason to have gone to the future, thus your past self wouldn't have gone and you most likely won't exist anymore.

Or something like that.

Your past self still would have gone because what you did wouldn't affect the past, or the past self's present. The change would only occur in the future, where you are currently at.
But what's a huge plot hole for science fiction writers is where a person in the future recieves a message from the past that wasn't there before, as it must have been there the whole time due to the message being left in the past. The only way this could happen is if somebody set a timer for the object to appear at that exact moment the person needs to see the message, which would be near impossible due to the person in the past not knowing who will recieve the message.

Oh yeah, its other way around, that's why travelling into the past is impossible. After you succeeded what you went for and changed the future, there wouldn't be a reason to go anymore.

You presume that someone just wants to go back in time to change something.


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#29 2011-11-26 11:56:20

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Re: What IS space?

Animeboy975 wrote:

A area with no gravity.

Space has gravity.
How else are we able to move around on earth?

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#30 2011-11-26 11:58:48

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Re: What IS space?

calebxy wrote:

DarkerWorld wrote:

GravityCatisalie wrote:


Your past self still would have gone because what you did wouldn't affect the past, or the past self's present. The change would only occur in the future, where you are currently at.
But what's a huge plot hole for science fiction writers is where a person in the future recieves a message from the past that wasn't there before, as it must have been there the whole time due to the message being left in the past. The only way this could happen is if somebody set a timer for the object to appear at that exact moment the person needs to see the message, which would be near impossible due to the person in the past not knowing who will recieve the message.

Oh yeah, its other way around, that's why travelling into the past is impossible. After you succeeded what you went for and changed the future, there wouldn't be a reason to go anymore.

You presume that someone just wants to go back in time to change something.

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#31 2011-11-26 12:26:45

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Re: What IS space?

GravityCatisalie wrote:

Animeboy975 wrote:

A area with no gravity.

Space has gravity.
How else are we able to move around on earth?

EARTH has gravity.


Say we did have time travel.

Would we be mature enough to use it for rightful uses?

Or would we just abuse it so we could put rubber bugs in Hitler's underwear drawer?


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#32 2011-11-26 12:33:27

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Re: What IS space?

Space is basic... its like the road beteen parked cars... its nothing.... the cars are planets and space is the road


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#33 2011-11-26 12:52:31

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Re: What IS space?

AtomicBawm3 wrote:

Ok, to clear some stuff up, space is considered to be a vacuum void of matter and energy.  The problem is, the universe is accelerating and it can't be explained if space is simply a vacuum.  So what we've hypothesized is that there is matter (dark matter) that does not emit an electromagnetic energy (radio waves, micro waves, infrared, visible light, UV light, x rays, gamma rays, etc.) and so this extra mass that is immeasurable by us because we have no way of observing it is pushing the universe apart.  Another reason the universe is accelerating is dark energy.  However, dark does not mean the same thing as it does in dark matter.  In this case, it simply means we don't understand it, it's mysterious.

So to sum up:
--Space has been considered a vacuum up until recently, and now is hypothesized to contain matter and energy that we cannot observe.
That's not accurate.  Space is it's own self.  It's not nothing, and isn't not a vacuum just because there's stuff in it.  A block of wood isn't considered a vacuum, and neither is space.
--The matter we cannot observe is called dark matter, where dark means that it does not emit anything that we can measure and is therefore completely invisible to us.
Actually, the 'dark' means that not much is known about it, just like with dark energy.  I actually think it might be possible that it's matter being cast like a shadow by matter in our 6-dimensional sister universe.
---The energy we cannot account for is called dark energy, where dark means that we have no way of explaining it, we simply have to say it's there in order to explain the universe.
Wrong.  Dark energy can be considered to opposite of dark matter.  Dark matter is a solution to the fact that galaxies appear to act with more gravity than the matter adds up to, so dark matter was theorized as an invisible and untouchable matter.  Dark energy is an invisible expanding force which is among the reasons that the universe continuously increases in its expanding speed.

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#34 2011-11-26 12:53:41

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Re: What IS space?

GravityCatisalie wrote:

Animeboy975 wrote:

A area with no gravity.

Space has gravity.
How else are we able to move around on earth?

No it doesn't.  We move around the earth with our muscles.  Gravity just travels through space.  Huh, that makes me consider the wave-like nature of gravity.

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#35 2011-11-26 12:58:32

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Re: What IS space?

schnrfl wrote:

SPAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.


Technically space is a vacuum
so you should be able to create "space".
*paraphrasing previous posts C:

No.  It's not really a vacuum.  It's space.  Space is something.  We have never observed a vacuum.  There IS an area, unreachable, outside the reaches of the universe (unreachable because the edge of the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light because it doesn't exist in an area with space or time and so speed technically doesn't exist), where there's no matter, and, although it gives most people, including Einstein and Stephen Hawking a huge headache, no time or space either.  It's complicated.

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#36 2011-11-26 13:01:39

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Re: What IS space?

If you really want to understand this, I suggest reading Hyperspace by Michio Kaku.  Don't ask on Scratch where we're all just a bunch of writers and computer nerds.

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#37 2011-11-26 13:38:50

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Re: What IS space?

Every Star Trek fan knows that Space is "the final frontier"  smile

But beyond that explanation...I would check out the article on Wikipedia.  It's this neat site that seems to know a little bit of something about just about everything.  Who knows...it might even be correct.


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#38 2011-11-26 13:40:10

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Re: What IS space?

agscratcher wrote:

Space technically does not exist, as it is the absence of matter and energy.

Someone needs to watch Nova.

Oh, yeah. Space is invisible mind dust, and stars are wishes.

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#39 2011-11-26 13:41:00

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Re: What IS space?

But if space is where there's no matter, that means that when you go up into space, it's not space anymore.


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#40 2011-11-26 13:44:45

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Re: What IS space?

A button on ur keyboard


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#41 2011-11-26 13:47:16

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Re: What IS space?

Everyone watch this:
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=tvCh3wKVYx4
And be sure to watch the next parts too.


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#42 2011-11-26 13:56:53

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Re: What IS space?

GravityCatisalie wrote:

DarkerWorld wrote:

calebxy wrote:


Actually, it is possible to go into the future. The faster one travels, the slower time goes for that person, so everything else that isn't travelling at that speed will be going through through time at a faster pace comparatively.

Yeah, but its really messed up, because you go to change something, you change it, and then you have no reason to have gone to the future, thus your past self wouldn't have gone and you most likely won't exist anymore.

Or something like that.

Your past self still would have gone because what you did wouldn't affect the past, or the past self's present. The change would only occur in the future, where you are currently at.
But what's a huge plot hole for science fiction writers is where a person in the future recieves a message from the past that wasn't there before, as it must have been there the whole time due to the message being left in the past. The only way this could happen is if somebody set a timer for the object to appear at that exact moment the person needs to see the message, which would be near impossible due to the person in the past not knowing who will recieve the message.

this stuff up here is sorta reminding me of intermission 1 of homestuck
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#43 2011-11-26 15:18:29

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Re: What IS space?

slapperbob wrote:

But if space is where there's no matter, that means that when you go up into space, it's not space anymore.

It's like a drawing on a paper.  If there's no drawing in a spot, the drawings won't feel like there's anything there (pardon the personification), but there's paper.

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#44 2011-11-26 17:07:40

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Re: What IS space?

space is the x, y, and z dimensions, and time is the t dimemsion. time is really just space that we cannot comprehend.

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#45 2011-11-26 17:09:07

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Re: What IS space?

P-Cupcake wrote:

GravityCatisalie wrote:

Animeboy975 wrote:

A area with no gravity.

Space has gravity.
How else are we able to move around on earth?

EARTH has gravity.

And so does SPACE.
@maxskywalker
Without gravity, we wouldn't have any muscles. We'd just be floating around. Astronauts have to exercise three times as much as they do on earth so their muscles won't deteriorate.

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#46 2011-11-26 17:13:18

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Re: What IS space?

P-Cupcake wrote:

But then what is the fabric of TIME?

Is time travel possible?

yikes

It actually is  smile
You make a wormhole or something, I forget, but I watched this video about it.
It requires the energy of an exploding star.
That is about all I remember.
It's basically impossible to physically do (It's not like we can fly on a spaceship and capture the energy of an exploding star in a jar [hey, that rhymes!]), but if we could get the stuff we needed, it could happen!

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#47 2011-11-26 17:17:54

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Re: What IS space?

Energy can't be created nor destroyed.

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#48 2011-11-26 17:23:37

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Re: What IS space?

JJROCKER wrote:

Energy can't be created nor destroyed.

But it can be generated.

Again, if we DID have time travel, would we be mature with it?
Or would we just put rubber bugs in Hitler's underwear drawer?


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#49 2011-11-26 17:40:45

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Re: What IS space?

1) If you removed every atom in an area, you would have antimatter
2) There is matter in space
3) Fact-check stuff before you say it

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#50 2011-11-26 17:42:56

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Re: What IS space?

JJROCKER wrote:

Energy can't be created nor destroyed.

That's matter.
Energy is an entirely different matter.

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