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#1 2011-11-17 18:28:48

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It... PASSED? NOO!

I looked at 5 different webites and it says SOPA and PROTECT IP both passed! NOOOOOO! I'LL MISS YOU, FACEBOOK... AND SCRATCH... AND CLUB PENGUIN... AND EVERYTHING!

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#2 2011-11-17 18:29:18

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

What?!


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#3 2011-11-17 18:29:48

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

Dude! It's not like the internet will die! Not all sites will be taken down!
jeesh


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#4 2011-11-17 18:30:19

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

Link please?


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#5 2011-11-17 18:31:36

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

It did? that SUX.

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#6 2011-11-17 18:32:25

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

Really?


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#7 2011-11-17 18:33:43

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!


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#8 2011-11-17 18:36:13

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#9 2011-11-17 18:36:24

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!


http://i.imgur.com/Mg3TPIE.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/rgyzXV5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/685FKVd.pnghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/8678e33865664f328e1654109679cb92/tumblr_mm1qu3jGD71s8caito3_r1_250.gif

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#10 2011-11-17 18:37:13

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

I knew it!
I never thought this bill would pass, not in a million years.
OK, maybe in a million years. Probably not!


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#11 2011-11-17 18:37:24

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

Bad news, however:
Organizations Supporting S.968Recording Industry Association of America
Independent Film & Television Alliance
Motion Picture Association of America
National Association of Theater Owners
Microsoft
Pfizer
...and 52 more. See all.
Organizations Opposing S.968Google
Demand Progress
Yahoo Inc.
American Association of Law Libraries
American Library Association
Human Rights Watch
...and 12 more. See all.


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#12 2011-11-17 18:37:47

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

^-^ scratch is saved!


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#13 2011-11-17 18:38:27

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

imnotbob wrote:

I knew it!
I never thought this bill would pass, not in a million years.
OK, maybe in a million years. Probably not!

yikes 

N o w p e r m e n a n t l y a r a n d o m a n d r o i d p h o n e :'(


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#14 2011-11-17 18:39:02

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!


http://i.imgur.com/Mg3TPIE.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/rgyzXV5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/685FKVd.pnghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/8678e33865664f328e1654109679cb92/tumblr_mm1qu3jGD71s8caito3_r1_250.gif

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#15 2011-11-17 18:39:24

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

Wickimen wrote:

Bad news, however:
Organizations Supporting S.968Recording Industry Association of America
Independent Film & Television Alliance
Motion Picture Association of America
National Association of Theater Owners
Microsoft
Pfizer
...and 52 more. See all.
Organizations Opposing S.968Google
Demand Progress
Yahoo Inc.
American Association of Law Libraries
American Library Association
Human Rights Watch
...and 12 more. See all.

I saw that

@jji7skyline (I was about to say berry112  tongue ) http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/n725075089-288918-2774.jpg

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#16 2011-11-17 18:43:15

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

What???????????


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#17 2011-11-17 18:43:19

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

imnotbob wrote:

Wickimen wrote:

Bad news, however:
Organizations Supporting S.968Recording Industry Association of America
Independent Film & Television Alliance
Motion Picture Association of America
National Association of Theater Owners
Microsoft
Pfizer
...and 52 more. See all.
Organizations Opposing S.968Google
Demand Progress
Yahoo Inc.
American Association of Law Libraries
American Library Association
Human Rights Watch
...and 12 more. See all.

I saw that

@jji7skyline (I was about to say berry112  tongue ) http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/20 … 8-2774.jpg

Mm yummy


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#18 2011-11-17 18:44:27

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

it hasn't passed but it hasn't been voted down either

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#19 2011-11-17 18:46:51

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

Yesterday was only the first hearing. No vote was involved.
Edit: lol, 1% of people on OpenCongress supports the bill XD

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#20 2011-11-17 18:49:33

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

16Skittles wrote:

Yesterday was only the first hearing. No vote was involved.
Edit: lol, 1% of people on OpenCongress supports the bill XD

LOL!


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#21 2011-11-17 18:49:36

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

16Skittles wrote:

Yesterday was only the first hearing. No vote was involved.
Edit: lol, 1% of people on OpenCongress supports the bill XD

Lol XD


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#22 2011-11-17 18:50:12

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

GUYS LIKE JD1 SAID IT MIGHT NOT BE REALLY BAD AT ALL, YOU LOOKED AT SITES WHICH MADE IT LOOK BAD, BUT MAYBE IT ISN'T.
SO PLEASE STOP ACTING LIKE ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!

Thank you.  big_smile


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#23 2011-11-17 18:50:41

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

Pecola1 wrote:

GUYS LIKE JD1 SAID IT MIGHT NOT BE REALLY BAD AT ALL, YOU LOOKED AT SITES WHICH MADE IT LOOK BAD, BUT MAYBE IT ISN'T.
SO PLEASE STOP ACTING LIKE ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!

Thank you.  big_smile

MAYBE IT IS BAD  smile


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#24 2011-11-17 18:53:14

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

Don't you know OpenCongress would be taken down if it passed? XP

Anyways, the first voting passed it and then they put it on hold.

Brad Burnham wrote:

At a dinner earlier this week, Joi Ito, the head of the Media Lab at MIT described the Internet as a “belief system” and I suddenly understood. The Internet is not just a series of pipes. It’s core architecture embeds an assumption about human nature. The Internet is designed to empower individuals not control them. It assumes that the if individuals are empowered, they will do the right thing the vast majority of the time. Services like eBay, Craigslist, Etsy and AirBnB are built on the assumption that most people are honest. Other services like Tumblr, Twitter, YouTube, Wordpress, and Soundcloud assume people will be generous with their ideas, insights and creations. Wikipedia has proven that people will share their knowledge. Companies like Kickstarter show that people will even be generous with their money. This does not mean that there are not bad people out there. All of these companies spend a lot of time and money to battle spam and fraud. The companies are simply betting that there are many more good people than bad. The architecture of the Internet shares this assumption. It could have been designed to prevent bad behavior. Instead its design empowers good behavior.

The entertainment industry does not share this view of human nature.

Whether you agree with me that the vast majority of people are good or with my friend that given a chance many people will steal is not really important. What is important is that PIPA, and SOPA, the legislation the content industry is currently pushing through Congress, will not allow me to architect a service and build a relationship with consumers that reflects my core beliefs about human nature. If I am a search engine and I remove sites from my index, I am essentially lying to my users. If I am a social media site and I remove links my users have posted to sites that some authority has deemed illegal, I am breaking a promise.

I am sympathetic to the content industries struggles with piracy, but my belief system tells me the answer is to capitalize on the great strengths of the Internet to create a healthy and profitable relationship with their users not to sue them. No matter how strongly I believe that, however, I do not think I have the right to tell them how to run their business. Apparently, they do not feel the same way about our businesses. The current legislation in Congress does not just create an administrative burden, it requires service providers who have built wonderful businesses on a deep conviction about human nature to change their relationship with their users in a way that subverts their core values.

MIT said it shouldn't pass  tongue

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#25 2011-11-17 18:59:48

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Re: It... PASSED? NOO!

Scratchthatguys wrote:

Don't you know OpenCongress would be taken down if it passed? XP

Anyways, the first voting passed it and then they put it on hold.

Brad Burnham wrote:

At a dinner earlier this week, Joi Ito, the head of the Media Lab at MIT described the Internet as a “belief system” and I suddenly understood. The Internet is not just a series of pipes. It’s core architecture embeds an assumption about human nature. The Internet is designed to empower individuals not control them. It assumes that the if individuals are empowered, they will do the right thing the vast majority of the time. Services like eBay, Craigslist, Etsy and AirBnB are built on the assumption that most people are honest. Other services like Tumblr, Twitter, YouTube, Wordpress, and Soundcloud assume people will be generous with their ideas, insights and creations. Wikipedia has proven that people will share their knowledge. Companies like Kickstarter show that people will even be generous with their money. This does not mean that there are not bad people out there. All of these companies spend a lot of time and money to battle spam and fraud. The companies are simply betting that there are many more good people than bad. The architecture of the Internet shares this assumption. It could have been designed to prevent bad behavior. Instead its design empowers good behavior.

The entertainment industry does not share this view of human nature.

Whether you agree with me that the vast majority of people are good or with my friend that given a chance many people will steal is not really important. What is important is that PIPA, and SOPA, the legislation the content industry is currently pushing through Congress, will not allow me to architect a service and build a relationship with consumers that reflects my core beliefs about human nature. If I am a search engine and I remove sites from my index, I am essentially lying to my users. If I am a social media site and I remove links my users have posted to sites that some authority has deemed illegal, I am breaking a promise.

I am sympathetic to the content industries struggles with piracy, but my belief system tells me the answer is to capitalize on the great strengths of the Internet to create a healthy and profitable relationship with their users not to sue them. No matter how strongly I believe that, however, I do not think I have the right to tell them how to run their business. Apparently, they do not feel the same way about our businesses. The current legislation in Congress does not just create an administrative burden, it requires service providers who have built wonderful businesses on a deep conviction about human nature to change their relationship with their users in a way that subverts their core values.

MIT said it shouldn't pass  tongue

That is possibly the best possible way to put it.

MAYBE it isn't bad. But what makes it good? This may slow down piracy, but those who break the law are perfectly capable of doing it again, finding ways to bypass this. It's like banning a library because some books talk about things which are illegal, and may inspire people to do it themselves. it does MORE HARM THAN GOOD.


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