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#1001 2012-09-04 11:18:35

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Re: Frozen Coco - The Online Rock Band

If you guys would like, I could code you guys a website, with a customized FluxBB forum, where you guys can do all your private discussions, as well as allow others to comment and give feedback.

Just an offer. I have experience in web developing, particularly in the field of PHP and Mysql.


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#1002 2012-09-04 11:19:11

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fg123 wrote:

If you guys would like, I could code you guys a website, with a customized FluxBB forum, where you guys can do all your private discussions, as well as allow others to comment and give feedback.

Just an offer. I have experience in web developing, particularly in the field of PHP and Mysql.

We really are not interested.


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#1003 2012-09-05 18:46:06

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Hey hpotter134, I was wondering whether you checked out and are recording the two songs I linked you to?  smile
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Hey DIY,

Sorry it's been taking me a while...teachers decided to dump a bunch of homework on the first day of school  smile

Please excuse me if I'm going to get critical here. (I probably will  tongue ) No offense is meant whatsoever.

I have been looking at your songs, but I don't think we should record them quite yet. I'll explain why.

The Am song sounds a LOT like Ellipsis. I know the chords are a bit different, but even so, we're going to have to have a really interesting (and different) melody to make it interesting enough. It's a good start though  smile

I like the idea of the D major a lot, but I think we should keep working on it. The combination of the piano and guitar will sound beautiful  smile  but it's really repetitive. I've fiddled a little bit with it, here Thoughts? This one needs a good voice part too.

I hope to fiddle with it some more, and we'll bounce ideas off each other, hopefully get techno involved, maybe jslomba and ContinentalRain, and hopefully we'll end up with a truly interesting song.

I'm not saying this to stall or slow down our recording rate, but I feel that since re-takes are so hard to come by due to our distance from each other, we should complete the songs as much as possible online before we record anything.

That also means we should figure out the vocal melody and make it prominent early on, because if a band has a vocalist, that vocalist must be the most important part of the song. That's what marks the difference between a solid band/song, and a karaoke jam session (which is fun too  tongue ) So we should give Mari somewhat of a spotlight, I think.

In a nutshell:
- Finish songs online (vocals too) and get approval from most of the band before recording
- try and make as many members contribute ideas for the song as possible
- Quality over Quantitiy. It's not the end of the world if we don't release a ton of songs, so long as we're proud of what we do release

Let's continue this conversation (I do think we should all talk about this more) on the forum ...I think it's only fair if the whole team contributes.

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These're just bandmate-to-bandmate suggestions. I'm not manager or anything  tongue  You can take them seriously, or not.

-hpotter134

P.S. I've started school this week. What about the rest of you? I assume jslomba has a similar school schedule to me, but what about everyone else?  smile


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#1004 2012-09-05 20:04:39

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^^agree with everything you've stated. We of course don't need to record DIY's 50+ songs as they're just that: Ideas that we must pick from to release on our first album. I'm actually a bit lost in these ideas, I'm not really sure what we're supposed to work on.  hmm  The D Major song sounds great. c:

fg123 wrote:

If you guys would like, I could code you guys a website, with a customized FluxBB forum, where you guys can do all your private discussions, as well as allow others to comment and give feedback.

Just an offer. I have experience in web developing, particularly in the field of PHP and Mysql.

We're very aware that you're an experienced web developer, but we're not interested, as DIY has already stated. Myself, I believe there's no point in having a website (be it developed especially by you, or the quick webs.com site we got now) if people can simply listen to, and comment on our songs in our SoundCloud profile.

DIY wrote:

What songs have you heard from other online bands?  smile

...Touché. I still believe it's better to not immediately assume we're the best online band of history, though  tongue


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#1005 2012-09-05 21:26:43

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technoguyx wrote:

^^agree with everything you've stated. We of course don't need to record DIY's 50+ songs as they're just that: Ideas that we must pick from to release on our first album. I'm actually a bit lost in these ideas, I'm not really sure what we're supposed to work on.  hmm  The D Major song sounds great. c:

fg123 wrote:

If you guys would like, I could code you guys a website, with a customized FluxBB forum, where you guys can do all your private discussions, as well as allow others to comment and give feedback.

Just an offer. I have experience in web developing, particularly in the field of PHP and Mysql.

We're very aware that you're an experienced web developer, but we're not interested, as DIY has already stated. Myself, I believe there's no point in having a website (be it developed especially by you, or the quick webs.com site we got now) if people can simply listen to, and comment on our songs in our SoundCloud profile.

DIY wrote:

What songs have you heard from other online bands?  smile

...Touché. I still believe it's better to not immediately assume we're the best online band of history, though  tongue

Replied to you, hpotter134, by e-mail. Please check it out.  smile

techno, I forwarded it to you too, so check it out.


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#1006 2012-09-05 21:41:24

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Replied to you, hpotter134, by e-mail. Please check it out.  smile

techno, I forwarded it to you too, so check it out.

Hmm...I believe in being open about this kind of thing. We're not exactly a billion fan band, so I don't see the harm in letting the more curious fans see what's going on. And there's no point in having a band discussion anywhere but where the whole band can read it. I know you're manager and techno's leader, but I still believe that anything you two (or I, or anyone) discuss that's band-related should go on public display.  big_smile

DIY (by email) wrote:

Hey, I totally understand  smile  I definitely get what you mean.

Love the edits to the D-Major song. I wanted to make some edits myself as well, so it wasn't repetitive. This is what I told techno, about the dynamics; it relies heavily on that to sound varied.

You're right about the Am Sad Song that it has similar progression, etc. Funnily enough, it sounds very different to Ellipsis in my head since I use a totally different tone when jamming myself, not the heavy electric feel.

You see, Mari has told me she is recording her own album, so we really can't afford to wait for her. Unless I can convince her to get a recording or too before winter, we are gonna have to wait until after the hols to get her vocal tracks in. That is why I decided on telling you to record some of my song vocals, and I shall handle the rest (since techno isn't much of a singer so he says).

I also understand you have a lot of homework on hand (just arrived from a long vacation and I have several months off, so no school yet).

Thanks for understanding, and I'd love to hear that Am Sad Song guitar track, at least a demo.  smile

OK, DIY, I'm sorry. I was unaware of your secrecy  tongue  Any reference to your solo work has been deleted

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#1007 2012-09-07 09:51:55

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Techno, I've sent you an e-mail (it contains some confidential links, so that's why I don't want to share it here or with anyone else). Please check it out and reply.  smile


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#1008 2012-09-08 11:35:40

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I've added three layers of electric guitar to the ending of Blissful Rapture, on top of Techno's demo, just to see what it might sound like. Thoughts?


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#1009 2012-09-08 13:21:12

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hpotter134 wrote:

I've added three layers of electric guitar to the ending of Blissful Rapture, on top of Techno's demo, just to see what it might sound like. Thoughts?

Sent a comment through SoundCloud. I think it sounds amazing.


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#1010 2012-09-08 17:31:42

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I just finished another song idea, based off of Flackback. I played around with it a little, and even added a trombone track (which I could record). If we decided to release flashback as a single, it might make a good B-side. What do you think?


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#1011 2012-09-08 17:47:32

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jslomba wrote:

I just finished another song idea, based off of Flackback. I played around with it a little, and even added a trombone track (which I could record). If we decided to release flashback as a single, it might make a good B-side. What do you think?

I like it  smile  I especially like the verse melody, it's nice. It sounds a little too similar to flashback in the chorus though. We can either fiddle with it until it sounds different enough, or, if you want, we can try to combine some of your new ideas into Flashback One (it's up to you, really...we can try both  big_smile  ), giving the song a slightly different mood/twist. Good ideas though, keep 'em coming!  smile

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#1012 2012-09-08 22:16:19

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jslomba wrote:

I just finished another song idea, based off of Flackback. I played around with it a little, and even added a trombone track (which I could record). If we decided to release flashback as a single, it might make a good B-side. What do you think?

What's up with the 'Ersatz I & II' and 'Flashback I & II'? It is very rare for any band to have two versions of a song unless there's a vaguely similar reprise.  hmm

If you want to get an idea of what 'sister songs' should be like, I'd suggest you check out this song and this one of mine.

Anyhow jslomba, I like the song. We definitely can't put both versions in the album, but I'd prefer this one I think (haven't listened to the other one in a while and don't have time to do so at the moment). Please correct me if I'm wrong here.


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#1013 2012-09-09 10:49:36

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Well, B-sides aren't usually included on the album. I was thinking that if we decided to release Flashback as a single, that might be a cool B-side.  smile

And also, Flashback II isn't the official name. I just decided to call it that so it's less confusing

For Ersatz I and II, it might be cool to put Ersatz I on our current album and put II on the next one.

(And could you please update the song list?)

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#1014 2012-09-09 11:18:06

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jslomba wrote:

Well, B-sides aren't usually included on the album. I was thinking that if we decided to release Flashback as a single, that might be a cool B-side.  smile

And also, Flashback II isn't the official name. I just decided to call it that so it's less confusing

For Ersatz I and II, it might be cool to put Ersatz I on our current album and put II on the next one.

(And could you please update the song list?)

We aren't exactly a widely commercial band, so we rely on every bit of material we release to go into an album, even B sides. We can't just have throwaways, otherwise there is no point in the time spent recording.

I still don't like the idea of having two versions, whether in one album or not. When there are so many ideas to choose from, we shouldn't limit ourselves to similar tunes. Let's try to make every track sound distinctly different. It'd be better to pick out the strong points in each version and merge them as one.


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#1015 2012-09-09 11:25:37

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DIY wrote:

jslomba wrote:

Well, B-sides aren't usually included on the album. I was thinking that if we decided to release Flashback as a single, that might be a cool B-side.  smile

And also, Flashback II isn't the official name. I just decided to call it that so it's less confusing

For Ersatz I and II, it might be cool to put Ersatz I on our current album and put II on the next one.

(And could you please update the song list?)

We aren't exactly a widely commercial band, so we rely on every bit of material we release to go into an album, even B sides. We can't just have throwaways, otherwise there is no point in the time spent recording.

I still don't like the idea of having two versions, whether in one album or not. When there are so many ideas to choose from, we shouldn't limit ourselves to similar tunes. Let's try to make every track sound distinctly different. It'd be better to pick out the strong points in each version and merge them as one.

Okay, I see your point, let's merge them.


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#1016 2012-09-10 12:05:38

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jslomba, so are you able to record drums for Blissful Rapture?  hmm

btw guys, I've done a rough mix of the song with my piano and a temp MIDI drum track and it sounds amazing.


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#1017 2012-09-10 14:42:17

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The account is unbanned  big_smile


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#1018 2012-09-10 17:35:56

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jslomba, so are you able to record drums for Blissful Rapture?  hmm

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to record on Wednesday.


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#1019 2012-09-10 21:16:19

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Zeusking19 wrote:

The account is unbanned  big_smile

No it isn't...

jslomba wrote:

DIY wrote:

jslomba, so are you able to record drums for Blissful Rapture?  hmm

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to record on Wednesday.

I hope so.

EDIT: techno, did you check my e-mail?

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#1020 2012-09-11 21:22:18

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jslomba, will you be recording as stated?


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#1021 2012-09-12 09:52:46

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jslomba, will you be recording as stated?

It's well into Wednesday already. I hope you managed to record the drum track?

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#1022 2012-09-12 10:13:09

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DIY wrote:

DIY wrote:

jslomba, will you be recording as stated?

It's well into Wednesday already. I hope you managed to record the drum track?

Relax...it's only 10 am where we are  tongue


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#1023 2012-09-12 10:33:01

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hpotter134 wrote:

DIY wrote:

DIY wrote:

jslomba, will you be recording as stated?

It's well into Wednesday already. I hope you managed to record the drum track?

Relax...it's only 10 am where we are  tongue

Heh, of course... Forgot of the time difference here and in the US.  tongue

But seriously the track can't be delayed further (you said you'd record after you returned from vacation a long while back). We must keep the momentum up and going.


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#1024 2012-09-13 06:46:19

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It's Thursday already and I really need the drum tracks for Blissful Rapture soon. I know that everyone (including me) has school work to complete and that it is not easy. However, I'm doing my A/Ls soon (AS next year and A2 the following summer) so if I'm coping with all that (which is loads of work) I'm sure you can handle the work you've been given. I know that no promises were made, but please bear in mind that I cannot mix at any random given time.  neutral


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#1025 2012-09-14 03:35:00

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Hey guys, I’ve been contacting Mari (ContinentalRain as you’ll know her) over the last few days via Tumblr, but until recently I haven’t got round to linking her to our new songs since I’ve been busy discussing ‘Blissful Rapture’ intensely with her. She was however, the first person I linked the demos to I believe, but has finally checked out the final versions. The vocals for BR are on good track and I shall be hearing them soon from her. Here’s what she had to say about the releases:

Mari, in reply to Yavin wrote:

Sorry I didn’t get around to replying to you yet. I listened to the tracks, they sound good. I especially like the way Early December turned out  smile

Will be uploading raw mix of BR soon but I still don’t have jsl’s drums.  hmm  I’ve used a MIDI track and if you want this hurried up, please upload asap.


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