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#1 2011-07-11 05:15:17

Sphingo
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Registered: 2011-07-01
Posts: 87

Is It Fair! Help?!

Someone has 'remixed' my project and shared it having changed nothing?! Only the timer is written in chinese or something. Is this alowwed? I feel like s/he is taking credit for what I have done?!

This is my original project: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Sphingo/1898153

Tgis is 'remixed' project: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/mrheihei/1914676

Please could all experienced scratchers, new scratcher or any scratcher at all share thier view and tell me what could happen! Thanks  big_smile

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#2 2011-07-11 05:20:28

scimonster
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Registered: 2010-06-13
Posts: 1000+

Re: Is It Fair! Help?!

Hmm, you're right. I saw one in the "More Projects by mrheihei" list a thumbnail that looks exactly like mine... because I just got ripped off too.  sad
I'm going to run the remix comparer.

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#3 2011-07-11 05:27:37

Sphingo
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Registered: 2011-07-01
Posts: 87

Re: Is It Fair! Help?!

Whats a remix comparer?! I also found this on the frequenttly asked questions:

What if someone copies a project without changing anything?

It is disrespectful to upload a project that was created entirely by someone else. If you see such a project, please flag it as inappropriate and include a link to the original project with your explanation.

Should I do this?! It seems over the top but also necessary?! :S

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#4 2011-07-11 05:34:31

scimonster
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Registered: 2010-06-13
Posts: 1000+

Re: Is It Fair! Help?!

Sphingo wrote:

Whats a remix comparer?! I also found this on the frequenttly asked questions:

What if someone copies a project without changing anything?

It is disrespectful to upload a project that was created entirely by someone else. If you see such a project, please flag it as inappropriate and include a link to the original project with your explanation.

Should I do this?! It seems over the top but also necessary?! :S

This is the remix comparator.

It reports that the projects are exactly the same, so yes, you should flag it.

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#5 2011-07-11 05:38:47

Sphingo
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Registered: 2011-07-01
Posts: 87

Re: Is It Fair! Help?!

What's...
Project ID
Project Version

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#6 2011-07-11 05:59:45

scimonster
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Registered: 2010-06-13
Posts: 1000+

Re: Is It Fair! Help?!

Sphingo wrote:

What's...
Project ID
Project Version

The ID is the number at the end of the URL.
For example: 1,000,000; 2,000,000; 1337, etc.
The version is what version: the first time it is uploaded, it's version 1. If you update it, it becomes version 2, etc.

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#7 2011-07-11 06:32:12

Paddle2See
Scratch Team
Registered: 2007-10-27
Posts: 1000+

Re: Is It Fair! Help?!

Unfortunately, the comparator has some issues...it often reports images as changed when they actually haven't been.  It seems to be related to image compression.  So a visual comparison is often more accurate. 

If you feel that the project is an exact copy, or that credit is being inappropriately claimed, you should flag the project as inappropriate and it will be reviewed by the Scratch Team.


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#8 2011-07-11 07:23:21

EdnaC
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Registered: 2007-08-28
Posts: 100+

Re: Is It Fair! Help?!

The project does state "based on ... (your project)".  I think it's silly to download a project and then upload it unchanged - but anyone who's interested could click the link to see your project.  I've seen this done with a few of my projects - I go to look at a remix to see what changes or cool additions someone has come up with and find; No changes!  But I don't get upset about this at all - I figure they are just giving my projects (which I think are great) more exposure, and someone my decide to look at my other stuff after seeing the 'remix'.

I wonder if some new scratchers do this because they haven't figured out how to use "favorites"???

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#9 2011-07-11 14:32:25

Sphingo
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Registered: 2011-07-01
Posts: 87

Re: Is It Fair! Help?!

THANKS!

The remix comparer said:

original_pid=1898153
original_pversion=2
remix_pid=1914676
remix_pversion=1

projects made in the same Scratch UI languages=false
projects have identical blocks stacks=false

number of blocks added=0
number of blocks removed=0

number of sprites added=0
number of sprites removed=0
number of sprites renamed=0

number of images added=0
number of images removed=0
number of images renamed=0
number of images edited=0
total bytes changed in all images=0

number of sounds added=0
number of sounds removed=0
number of sounds renamed=0
number of sounds edited=0
total bytes changed in all sounds=0

number of strings added=5
number of strings removed=5

Going on this, It looks like only the language it was in changed, which I thinks still unfair!!! I'm going to flag it!

This is the link to the original project if you want totry it:
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Sphingo/1898153

HAVE FUN and THANKS again!!!  big_smile

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#10 2011-07-11 14:52:31

scimonster
Community Moderator
Registered: 2010-06-13
Posts: 1000+

Re: Is It Fair! Help?!

Sphingo wrote:

THANKS!

The remix comparer said:

Code:

original_pid=1898153
original_pversion=2
remix_pid=1914676
remix_pversion=1

projects made in the same Scratch UI languages=false
projects have identical blocks stacks=false

number of blocks added=0
number of blocks removed=0

number of sprites added=0
number of sprites removed=0
number of sprites renamed=0

number of images added=0
number of images removed=0
number of images renamed=0
number of images edited=0
total bytes changed in all images=0

number of sounds added=0
number of sounds removed=0
number of sounds renamed=0
number of sounds edited=0
total bytes changed in all sounds=0

number of strings added=5
number of strings removed=5

Going on this, It looks like only the language it was in changed, which I thinks still unfair!!! I'm going to flag it!

This is the link to the original project if you want totry it:
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Sphingo/1898153

HAVE FUN and THANKS again!!!  big_smile

I played the original; I'm just not so good at mutliplayer games by myself. ^^;

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