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#26 2010-12-01 20:11:54

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

Off-site activities for the most part shouldn't mean anything.

But in the case of two Scratch users harassing each other about Scratch activities, it should be a banning factor.


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#27 2010-12-03 05:52:13

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

Blade-Edge was pwn'd by a mod.
Never thought I'd see that in my life time...  yikes


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#28 2010-12-03 07:45:56

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

08jackt wrote:

Blade-Edge was pwn'd by a mod.
Never thought I'd see that in my life time...  yikes

That's funny, I don't feel pwned
Can you point out where exactly?


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#29 2010-12-03 16:17:53

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

Hrm... Not sure what the last two posts have to do with this thread. And really, mods don't pwn. FTW for a mod is when they get something back on track, or get someone to see something differently in a way that makes things more positive.

So yeah - pwnage just ain't what mods do, or shouldn't be.


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#30 2010-12-04 09:02:37

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

Lightnin wrote:

Hrm... Not sure what the last two posts have to do with this thread. And really, mods don't pwn. FTW for a mod is when they get something back on track, or get someone to see something differently in a way that makes things more positive.

dbn300100 wrote:

i agree with you Lightnin...oh and i am writing this from the past.

So yeah - pwnage just ain't what mods do, or shouldn't be.


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#31 2011-02-07 13:46:56

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

maybe respond with a message to the flagger 'thank you for the report. we will deal with it appropriately'

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#32 2011-04-16 12:49:57

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

i have noticed some butting in on off-topic stuff.

is anything MENTIONED on the site (that discusses users also on Scratch) gossiping no matter what website it's about? or how true it is?


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#33 2011-04-20 10:01:20

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

soupoftomato wrote:

i have noticed some butting in on off-topic stuff.

is anything MENTIONED on the site (that discusses users also on Scratch) gossiping no matter what website it's about? or how true it is?

Not really specifically, but the TOU does somewhat cover that with the points about being respectful,


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#34 2011-06-06 13:00:24

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

Lightnin wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

+1 Flagging a comment feels like a little matter when it's just "click ok" - some people intentionally flag innocent comments as a joke.  sad

Abuse of the flagging system is strongly frowned upon by ST. When a comment is flagged and removed, we get a message with the comment and a link to the project / gallery page. If someone flags a comment that isn't inappropriate once, we figure it was probably an accident - but if it continues, we'll notify the flagger and ask them to stop, and take further action if necessary.

TheSaint wrote:

Actually, I never got an email back for one message I sent, asking about an automatic removal of one of my projects (Some people flagged a year old project, and it was autotaken off, but it had been up for a year...), but the issue was resolved and the project put back up. Which was fine by me, and so I never pursued it.

I remember that message, and can see our reply in our sent folder! Can you check your spam filters for it? We replied on the 7th of this month. Either way - please let us know if you do or don't find it (I've often wondered if some of our email responses get caught by people's spam filters or are otherwise lost.) If you do find it, please be sure to mark it as not spam.

Blade-Edge wrote:

I have another question
Why are off-site actions reasons to ban on the site?

They usually aren't.  But in some cases it's kind of obvious that off-site harassment is going on that's really inappropriate and disrespectful. To us, it doesn't make sense to continue providing a free service to people who we know are attacking Scratch or its community members.

Okay. So if there are a few people on an external website who are going

"Her creepy pastas are [swearword] pieces of [swearword]."

They also are wishing that I will be killed by a tornado.

I heard about it from another Scratcher and can't get on the website to confirm these claims or find out who it is, for that matter, but if I get any more evidence, I can report it.

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#35 2011-06-06 15:41:49

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

somelia wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

+1 Flagging a comment feels like a little matter when it's just "click ok" - some people intentionally flag innocent comments as a joke.  sad

Abuse of the flagging system is strongly frowned upon by ST. When a comment is flagged and removed, we get a message with the comment and a link to the project / gallery page. If someone flags a comment that isn't inappropriate once, we figure it was probably an accident - but if it continues, we'll notify the flagger and ask them to stop, and take further action if necessary.

TheSaint wrote:

Actually, I never got an email back for one message I sent, asking about an automatic removal of one of my projects (Some people flagged a year old project, and it was autotaken off, but it had been up for a year...), but the issue was resolved and the project put back up. Which was fine by me, and so I never pursued it.

I remember that message, and can see our reply in our sent folder! Can you check your spam filters for it? We replied on the 7th of this month. Either way - please let us know if you do or don't find it (I've often wondered if some of our email responses get caught by people's spam filters or are otherwise lost.) If you do find it, please be sure to mark it as not spam.

Blade-Edge wrote:

I have another question
Why are off-site actions reasons to ban on the site?

They usually aren't.  But in some cases it's kind of obvious that off-site harassment is going on that's really inappropriate and disrespectful. To us, it doesn't make sense to continue providing a free service to people who we know are attacking Scratch or its community members.

Okay. So if there are a few people on an external website who are going

"Her creepy pastas are [swearword] pieces of [swearword]."

They also are wishing that I will be killed by a tornado.

I heard about it from another Scratcher and can't get on the website to confirm these claims or find out who it is, for that matter, but if I get any more evidence, I can report it.

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#36 2011-06-06 15:55:32

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

The guys from Scratch Chat are all banned already, somelia, so there's nothing more the ST can do about it.


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#37 2011-06-06 16:00:13

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

The guys from Scratch Chat are all banned already, somelia, so there's nothing more the ST can do about it.

SUE
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And I'm not... but only a certain mod knows why.

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#38 2011-06-27 16:42:38

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

This might have been said already, but maybe when a project is removed any and all users who flagged it could get a notification saying:

"A project you have flagged was removed by the Scratch Team. Thanks for keeping our website safe, and Scratch On!"

or

"The project "(name of project)", which you flagged, was removed by the Scratch Team. Thanks for keeping our website safe, and Scratch On!"


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#39 2011-07-29 22:12:45

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

Knowing when a reported thing has been taken care of would be good... maybe just a quick admin message?

I agree that although transparency is important, privacy is also important...  smile


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#40 2011-07-31 21:49:51

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

Lightnin wrote:

Blade-Edge wrote:

What about when you don't reply to emails for months

It's interesting - lots of times we get emails saying "Please actually reply to this!" So it's clear a lot of people think that we usually don't. Actually - we pretty much always do reply - to almost every message.

There are, of course, exceptions:
1. When the person writing the email uses a lot of profanity, or is otherwise clearly disrespectful towards us or anyone else, really.

2.  When we have evidence that the person sending the message is trying to game or mislead us in some way, or has otherwise exhausted their integrity.

These exceptions can run the range between funny and just plain weird. We don't respond because we don't think it makes sense to feed those dynamics.

But these exceptions are very rare - so I'd say we respond to about 99% or better of the messages sent to us. Of course, we may miss one or two by accident now and then (we get a lot), but that too seems pretty rare. If you know someone who hasn't received a response (and whose message doesn't fall into one of the above categories), by all means please ask them to send it again.

I believed I sent a message once that did not get replied too, but I forget what it was


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#41 2011-07-31 21:58:01

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

I really think the person who flagged it should get some sort of notification about it so they know it was taken care of.

The real reason is that I almost never actually see the influence of a mod other than one night where they had to do quit a lot of topic closing, and on one of my threads that had some spam, so getting a notification saying it was taken care of would make me notice what the mods were doing and appreciate it more.


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#42 2011-07-31 22:35:15

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

I agree.


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#43 2011-08-01 05:42:10

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

As someone that has broken the TOU I know what happens, and to be honest I wouldn't really mind if it was made public. One suggestion I have is similar to a court room, people can walk in whilst it's happening and (I'm not sure about this next bit) view some of the records afterwards but the records are not advertised about or anything. What you could have on the scratch forums is that you can view what's currently going on and there is an alphabetically arranged list of previous rule breakers but the location of these is not advertised, it's just a small part of the site.


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#44 2012-07-22 04:40:37

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

Totally.

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#45 2012-07-22 23:03:05

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

Thanks for writing this!

When recoding the ban system on Mod Share, I kept this in mind, and now it doesn't show if a user is banned anywhere.


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#46 2012-07-23 00:07:20

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

i think Scratchers should be able to have PM conversations with mods or admins but not with other Scratchers this way mods and admins can notify Scratchers of things with out doing so publicly.

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#47 2012-07-29 09:50:12

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

slayerrobe7 wrote:

i think Scratchers should be able to have PM conversations with mods or admins but not with other Scratchers this way mods and admins can notify Scratchers of things with out doing so publicly.

Try contacting the Scratch Team at help@scratch.mit.edu.

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#48 2012-07-29 14:21:00

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

scimonster wrote:

slayerrobe7 wrote:

i think Scratchers should be able to have PM conversations with mods or admins but not with other Scratchers this way mods and admins can notify Scratchers of things with out doing so publicly.

Try contacting the Scratch Team at help@scratch.mit.edu.

that would be too time consuming scratch takes a few days to respond with pms you could send it to a mod you know is online


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#49 2012-07-29 14:36:41

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

slayerrobe7 wrote:

scimonster wrote:

slayerrobe7 wrote:

i think Scratchers should be able to have PM conversations with mods or admins but not with other Scratchers this way mods and admins can notify Scratchers of things with out doing so publicly.

Try contacting the Scratch Team at help@scratch.mit.edu.

that would be too time consuming scratch takes a few days to respond with pms you could send it to a mod you know is online

Actually, moderators don't deal with bans. That's the ST's domain. Which is why you should send it to the ST.

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#50 2012-10-20 11:44:11

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Re: Balancing privacy and transparency....

What happens if i flag someone by accident?

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