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sanddude · 2010-10-29 17:56:19

I remember Dazachi and illusionist. *weeps loudly* Why, oh why did the Scratch team do this? [/drama]

Just kidding. I completely understand and respect the Scratch team's decision (although, I do personally think it should be lowered to 12). However, it does lessen younger Scratch members ability to help the Scratch community.

My solution: create a position that the Scratch team will feel more comfortable allowing children 13 and under to do.

Basically, it will be a community moderator, but with limits.

The limits are:
-They can edit posts, but not delete them.
-They can close topics, but not reopen them.
-When a moderator flags a project, it is cannot be seen, until a Scratch member reviews it. This will not be true with Junior Moderators.
-They cannot sticky threads.
-They can move threads to different sections, but not posts do different threads.

This way, the 14+ people can take care of the extreme stuff, but those under 14 can also play in active role in the site.

The guidelines will be the same, minus the 14 year limit. Although, I would suggest they get parents permission by E-Mail, instead of making confirmation phone calls.

So, what do you think? Any suggestions on new limits?

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Last edited by sanddude (2010-10-29 18:05:08)

Sunrise-Moon · 2010-10-29 18:13:38

The problem is, spam and bad posts that possibly contain content unsuitable for kids under 13 (or kids of any age, 9 - 99) will still be reported, and the "Junior Moderator" will still see the reported content. I think that the current moderator guidelines are completely fair as they are.

Jonathanpb · 2010-10-29 18:16:46

The Scratch Team didn't want younger people viewing the horrible stuff that moderators have to edit - part of the reason why the age limit is at 14.

Why create another moderator rank though? Aren't Community Moderators enough?

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Harakou · 2010-10-29 18:27:22

Sunrise-Moon wrote:
The problem is, spam and bad posts that possibly contain content unsuitable for kids under 13 (or kids of any age, 9 - 99) will still be reported, and the "Junior Moderator" will still see the reported content. I think that the current moderator guidelines are completely fair as they are.

Jonathanpb wrote:
The Scratch Team didn't want younger people viewing the horrible stuff that moderators have to edit - part of the reason why the age limit is at 14.

My thoughts exactly. The Scratch team doesn't want them seeing the scarring stuff, so having "Junior Moderators" with limited power really wouldn't solve anything.

lilacfuzz101 · 2010-10-29 18:28:21

I suggested this on another forum thread

lilacfuzz101 wrote:
I understand why you would set an age limit- but let's be honest; 14-year-olds can be immature as any other age. and, as we've seen with illusionist, lower ages can be just as mature. and (as it's been said) people may lie about their age when they sign up. i understand that this was a hard desicion, but i think it should be more based on the person's track record.

what if... (and i understand if this would get too complicated-or be abused in some way) there were two divisions of moderators? 14+ and 14-. when reporting something, the reporter could check a box if they think it should be handeled by an older mod. younger mods would handle stuff like people being mean/flames/ect. normal stuff. and the... more maturity needed reports would be handled by 14+. the reports that get checked wouldn't show up... wherever the mods get alerted.

Blade-Edge · 2010-10-29 18:29:54

I don't think you really understand the decision if you think it should be lowered to 12
And also the rest of your post makes my doubt of your understanding even greater

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cheddargirl · 2010-10-30 16:19:05

lilacfuzz101 wrote:
what if... (and i understand if this would get too complicated-or be abused in some way) there were two divisions of moderators? 14+ and 14-. when reporting something, the reporter could check a box if they think it should be handeled by an older mod. younger mods would handle stuff like people being mean/flames/ect. normal stuff. and the... more maturity needed reports would be handled by 14+. the reports that get checked wouldn't show up... wherever the mods get alerted.

The problem is that the forum system cannot be set up that way - basically there's no way to prevent a younger age moderator from seeing reported content. Hence why the Scratch Team does not like the age limit, but was the best solution regarding the forum restrictions and the content that moderators have to face on a daily basis.

werdna123 · 2010-10-30 16:30:49

Well, it depends which you want, really good forums but some people don't get to be mods, or not very good forums, where everybody can be a mod. You're choosing the 2nd one but that wouldn't do much good because only a few more people would get the junior mod status. So it would be much better for those 5/6 people, but slightly worse (possibly) for the others. And there are some err *inapropriate* posts which younger users (like myself) wouldn't want to see. Good idea though!

turntechGodhead · 2010-10-30 16:35:55

dude this wont solve anything the arguments against under 14s arent changed by this at all

helltank · 2010-11-01 04:03:07

turntechGodhead wrote:
dude this wont solve anything the arguments against under 14s arent changed by this at all

[semibackseatmodding]I understand you're a new Scratcher, but a friendly warning:This is not Kongregate forums. Although not stated in the ToU, Scratchers generally don't like people to make such comments. Not your fault, I know.[/semibackseatmodding]

Why do people keep talking about the maturity level? It's NOT the maturity level. It's just that the ST isn't comfortable with 11 year olds viewing, ahem, more adult stuff.

coolstuff · 2010-11-01 16:20:57

There is a new rank being created for them - it's a 'retired community moderator.' Basically, they still get to do most of the cool stuff we get to, but without actually having to moderate.

lilacfuzz101 · 2010-11-01 16:26:31

coolstuff wrote:
There is a new rank being created for them - it's a 'retired community moderator.' Basically, they still get to do most of the cool stuff we get to, but without actually having to moderate.

sorry just had to tongue

Thats' great! i know illusionist was a little upset when he/she found out.

Blade-Edge · 2010-11-01 16:43:58

helltank wrote:
[semibackseatmodding]I understand you're a new Scratcher, but a friendly warning:This is not Kongregate forums. Although not stated in the ToU, Scratchers generally don't like people to make such comments. Not your fault, I know.[/semibackseatmodding]

Just wondering why you make comments like that all the time if everyone's against it

turntechGodhead · 2010-11-01 16:55:31

helltank wrote:
turntechGodhead wrote:
dude this wont solve anything the arguments against under 14s arent changed by this at all
[semibackseatmodding]I understand you're a new Scratcher, but a friendly warning:This is not Kongregate forums. Although not stated in the ToU, Scratchers generally don't like people to make such comments. Not your fault, I know.[/semibackseatmodding]

Why do people keep talking about the maturity level? It's NOT the maturity level. It's just that the ST isn't comfortable with 11 year olds viewing, ahem, more adult stuff.

dude i made extra sure to ensure there was nothing "insulting" in there

how the heck could you possibly be offended by that man
calm down its only a kids programming site
take a chill pill

coolstuff · 2010-11-01 17:05:52

Guys, let's calm this down, lest this thread be closed. Please try to keep your posts respectful and not jump to any hasty conclusions about the intentions of one's posts. Thanks!

Sunrise-Moon · 2010-11-01 18:31:10

helltank wrote:
turntechGodhead wrote:
dude this wont solve anything the arguments against under 14s arent changed by this at all
[semibackseatmodding]I understand you're a new Scratcher, but a friendly warning:This is not Kongregate forums. Although not stated in the ToU, Scratchers generally don't like people to make such comments. Not your fault, I know.[/semibackseatmodding]

I think you may have misunderstood his post- I doubt he was trying to be mean, he was just saying "This won't do much."

turntechGodhead · 2010-11-01 19:32:02

Sunrise-Moon wrote:
helltank wrote:
turntechGodhead wrote:
dude this wont solve anything the arguments against under 14s arent changed by this at all
[semibackseatmodding]I understand you're a new Scratcher, but a friendly warning:This is not Kongregate forums. Although not stated in the ToU, Scratchers generally don't like people to make such comments. Not your fault, I know.[/semibackseatmodding]
I think you may have misunderstood his post- I doubt he was trying to be mean, he was just saying "This won't do much."

thanks sunrise moon thats exactly what i meant

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#13 2010-11-01 16:43:58

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