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#276 2010-09-30 22:16:26

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

Realtime 3D Raycaster freezes up. But I didn't expect it to do much with that anyway.

Speed improvements for shorter-script projects are good (e.g. Requiem of Thunder seems to run a bit faster now), but longer scripts seem to be running slower (as is most evident in my raycaster projects). Either way I'd love to see some more speed optimization...new features are great and all (especially BYOB) but, like I said way back during the transition to (I think) 1.2, speed is what I personally need the most. =P

I actually like the new look of the blocks (except pick random...the dice image just seems so out of place). I'd prefer it to look less plain (and without the black background) but I can live with it. Block editor speed and scrolling, on the other hand, seems quite a bit slower than the Smalltalk version.

Other than that I was pretty impressed with the work here. It's an ambitious project, and I wish you guys the best of luck  big_smile

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#277 2010-10-01 06:16:00

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

I noticed that what was "if _ else _" in Scratch 1.0, now in the experimental viewer is "if else _ _". Is this a mistake? I really hope so. Or is this the intended final form of the "if else" block? I really hope it isn't.

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#278 2010-10-01 19:38:07

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

Boolean blocks fit inside string inserters.


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#279 2010-10-01 23:13:45

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

zorket wrote:

Boolean blocks fit inside string inserters.

That's not a bug. You can do that in Scratch too.

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#280 2010-10-02 10:02:49

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

Project http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/recycle49/1323299 crashes the experimental viewer (in Firefox, Chrome and IE8).

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#281 2010-10-04 06:05:49

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

I have two questions:

- is there a way of getting the experimental viewer only show the stage. i.e. without scripts, etc?

- Is there a way of running the experimental viewer on a different website or on a local project? I would be really happy if I could do this even for a very beta version.

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#282 2010-10-04 06:34:27

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

This is a great viewer, but some things should be improved. From other people's comments.


Waiting for Scratch 2.0...

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#283 2010-10-05 04:05:05

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

Does anyone have a good guess on why PeterC's excellent 3D labirynh project (http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/PeterC/1184244) is very good in the java player (that usually it is very slow instead), excellent in the new flash experimental viewer and, on the contrary, it is so bad in Scratch 1.4? Even running it in turbo mode doesn't help much...

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#284 2010-10-05 08:57:17

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

s_federici wrote:

I have two questions:

- is there a way of getting the experimental viewer only show the stage. i.e. without scripts, etc?

- Is there a way of running the experimental viewer on a different website or on a local project? I would be really happy if I could do this even for a very beta version.

At the moment, I guess not. But in the future, I hope so!

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#285 2010-10-05 16:44:50

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

Project http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/antimonyarsenide/1331306 crashes the experimental viewer.

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#286 2010-10-06 16:15:43

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

Project http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/RUMCHEERYPOOPOO/1338186 does not do the walls right


I AM ROOKWOOD101 NOW! (just so you know)

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#287 2010-10-06 21:49:26

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

The project http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/St7rfiter/1325819
runs well on the experimental viewer untill you start a new game. Once you start a new game the viewer lags and crashes.

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#288 2010-10-08 16:29:06

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

For me, whenever I press the link that takes you to the EV (on any porject) it takes me to scratch.mit.edu.  yikes

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#289 2010-10-08 19:48:32

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

So far, this Flash player has been faster than the offline program and the Java player.
On http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/ThePCKid/1341820, the Flash player was the fastest. It got 2.701 seconds  big_smile

Good job on the speed (or is it just my PC)! *high five*

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#290 2010-10-08 22:00:57

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

ThePCKid wrote:

So far, this Flash player has been faster than the offline program and the Java player.
On http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/ThePCKid/1341820, the Flash player was the fastest. It got 2.701 seconds  big_smile

Good job on the speed (or is it just my PC)! *high five*

It's faster on mine to. If you could save edits to the projects and create new projects, I wouldn't use scratch.

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#291 2010-10-09 12:15:20

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

GLITCH!
Update one of your projects. Now open the experimental viewer. It'll load the older version instead of the new one!

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#292 2010-10-09 17:36:16

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

mathematics wrote:

zorket wrote:

Boolean blocks fit inside string inserters.

That's not a bug. You can do that in Scratch too.

Oh, sorry. I meant, boolean blocks fit in side numberic inserters.  hmm


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#293 2010-10-10 04:04:36

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

zorket wrote:

mathematics wrote:

zorket wrote:

Boolean blocks fit inside string inserters.

That's not a bug. You can do that in Scratch too.

Oh, sorry. I meant, boolean blocks fit in side numberic inserters.  hmm

Then that's really a bug!

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#294 2010-10-10 14:21:31

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

bladezer wrote:

s_federici wrote:

I have two questions:

- is there a way of getting the experimental viewer only show the stage. i.e. without scripts, etc?

- Is there a way of running the experimental viewer on a different website or on a local project? I would be really happy if I could do this even for a very beta version.

At the moment, I guess not. But in the future, I hope so!

yeah, you can -- just explore the source of the HTML of the viewer and you should find the address of the flash viewer itself -- then put it in your browser and you have the viewer stand-alone (no saving tho).

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#295 2010-10-10 14:22:18

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

Unfortunately, I don't sense better quality than online...
hmm -12three- hmm

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#296 2010-10-10 20:41:42

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

Glitch: Circular blocks won't report the value when you click on them, and they don't fit inside the dropdowns they usually fit in.


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#297 2010-10-11 04:19:59

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

LS97 wrote:

bladezer wrote:

s_federici wrote:

I have two questions:

- is there a way of getting the experimental viewer only show the stage. i.e. without scripts, etc?

- Is there a way of running the experimental viewer on a different website or on a local project? I would be really happy if I could do this even for a very beta version.

At the moment, I guess not. But in the future, I hope so!

yeah, you can -- just explore the source of the HTML of the viewer and you should find the address of the flash viewer itself -- then put it in your browser and you have the viewer stand-alone (no saving tho).

But you can't view only the project, right? (No scripts.)

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#298 2010-10-12 12:40:21

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

Hi, love the viewer! I think I may have found a bug. On two projects in the [blocks]<set pen color to(colour picker square)>[/blocks]  block I can't choose the colour. Hope this helps!

Last edited by lihkan (2010-10-12 12:43:33)

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#299 2010-10-12 23:19:22

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

Sometimes, when I click to try a project in the experimental viewer it does not work.


http://i.imgur.com/VskBk.png
http://i.imgur.com/tgxVZ.jpg

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#300 2010-10-13 07:39:47

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Re: Help test a new way to play with Scratch projects online!

hdarken wrote:

Try THIS on the experimential viewer.

Woah! The (loudness) and <loud?> blocks work!

Last edited by jackrulez (2010-10-13 07:40:22)


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