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#1951 2010-10-13 06:50:44

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Hi, Snap/BYOB team. I recently made a 1s1s called Alonzo's Adventure in BYOB. You can download it here:
Alonzo's Adventure
I would have been able to do more, but the project would have gotten too laggy. I was wondering if in the next BYOB update you could put  Turn Turbo Mode on and Turn Turbo Mode off blocks. Thank you, and good luck with BYOB/Snap.
-majormax

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#1952 2010-10-13 09:26:36

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

majormax wrote:

Alonzo's Adventure

I get an error message from this URL.


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#1953 2010-10-13 18:31:00

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

Fiat500 wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:


Windows 7. How you live with XP I do not know.  tongue

I. HATE. XP.

HOW THE #Ë!! CAN YOU SAY THAT!
Seriously, I'm using a Windows XP right now. And there isn't a single other computer I've seen that's faster. It takes 1 SECOND to log on and rarely lags.

And I've *never* gotten a virus (I run Norton scans & updates every time I use the computer)

xp sucks


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#1954 2010-10-13 18:33:53

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shadow_7283 wrote:

rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

Fiat500 wrote:


I. HATE. XP.

HOW THE #Ë!! CAN YOU SAY THAT!
Seriously, I'm using a Windows XP right now. And there isn't a single other computer I've seen that's faster. It takes 1 SECOND to log on and rarely lags.

And I've *never* gotten a virus (I run Norton scans & updates every time I use the computer)

Wow. I can't believe someone had the time and patience to dig through that OS discussion. That was PAGES ago.

So before someone scolds us for being off-topic, I'll have my say in it.  tongue

Windows XP. Not as fast. Not 64 bit. You shouldn't be saying that the computer is faster anyway because you are talking about the Windows XP OS, and like Fiat500 said, it's usually the guts of the PC that matter when it comes to speed.

True, you are going to see less viruses on XP more and more as the creators of the viruses don't have the number of targets that they used to. Plus, Microsoft has worked out almost all of the security issues in the XP operating system (for the OS, not referring to viruses from other security holes). But, the fact that you have never gotten a viruses could also have to do with Norton (which personally I can't stand).

I have Trend Micro, and it actually runs SO fast that a fingernail growing is faster than it. tee hee.  big_smile


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#1955 2010-10-13 18:38:25

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

Fiat500 wrote:


I. HATE. XP.

HOW THE #Ë!! CAN YOU SAY THAT!
Seriously, I'm using a Windows XP right now. And there isn't a single other computer I've seen that's faster. It takes 1 SECOND to log on and rarely lags.

And I've *never* gotten a virus (I run Norton scans & updates every time I use the computer)

It's better than Vista, but not 7. And Mac OS X Snow Leopard beats them all.

Anyway, back on topic. Hmmm, really all I have to say is that BYOB 3 is awesome. Can't think of much more.

EDIT:

Fiat500 wrote:

iPads, ARE NOT MACS. sorry i sounded like a snob there.

yes they are, they're based off the Mac OS, and are very much like it. They still run the same unix kernel and all.

Sure, unix but iPad runs iOS, which came from Darwin (an old os that was supposed to be on the Newton,google it) and that came from Mac OS, the first 1 that didnt use unix. (i got pretty much 90% of that on wikipedia) HOWEVER. YOU ARE RIGHT THAT iOS USES UNIX.


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#1956 2010-10-13 18:42:35

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:

Windows XP. Not as fast. Not 64 bit. You shouldn't be saying that the computer is faster anyway because you are talking about the Windows XP OS, and like Fiat500 said, it's usually the guts of the PC that matter when it comes to speed.

Wait, didn't I already argue you out of this last time around?  Take a computer built for XP and run Vista or 7 on it and watch what happens.

It would epically fail. BUT, thats for another reason. The CPU (processor) just can't handle 7 because of its 64 bitness and better graphics. Vista on the other hand, is horrible and would crash within 10 seconds. It's just TOO SLOW.


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#1957 2010-10-13 19:39:59

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

[/PC vs. mac argument]


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#1958 2010-10-14 16:29:33

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

BWOG wrote:

fanofcena wrote:

BYOB is always 1 step ahead of scratch  tongue

scratch 1.4 - byob 2.0
scratch 2.0 - Byob 3.0

with all the cool new features BYOB Will soon become a pros language for experimentisation

If they went 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, and so on, BYOB for Scratch 2.0 would be 8.0.

Yeah but they are skipping to 2.0


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#1959 2010-10-14 16:31:17

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

majormax wrote:

Alonzo's Adventure

I get an error message from this URL.

Me too!


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#1960 2010-10-14 16:35:13

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

majormax wrote:

Hi, Snap/BYOB team. I recently made a 1s1s called Alonzo's Adventure in BYOB. You can download it here:
Alonzo's Adventure
I would have been able to do more, but the project would have gotten too laggy. I was wondering if in the next BYOB update you could put  Turn Turbo Mode on and Turn Turbo Mode off blocks. Thank you, and good luck with BYOB/Snap.
-majormax

fishy. its not in .sb


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#1961 2010-10-14 16:36:18

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

byob are the same type as that


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#1962 2010-10-14 16:43:55

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Fiat500 wrote:

fishy. its not in .sb

Yeah it's a BYOB file.
I'm gonna try to put it into .exe

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#1963 2010-10-14 17:13:04

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#1964 2010-10-14 20:26:45

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

majormax wrote:

THIS LINK WILL WORK!!!!

I got the same 404 error, and so I went back to your original link and control-clicked it, and chose "save as," and then it worked!  It's just regular clicking on it that failed.

Your old version was better for me than the new one -- I have a Mac at home (but don't let's start arguing about computers).

You really like LAUNCH!  I haven't yet looked into it much more than that, but I will.  Thanks.


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#1965 2010-10-14 20:28:21

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Fiat500 wrote:

fishy. its not in .sb

We picked a different extension (.ypr) for BYOB projects so that you can have Scratch and BYOB both installed on your computer and they won't get in each other's way.


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#1966 2010-10-14 22:09:30

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

@Shadow: Speaking of arguing, I've been wondering, did you get bored with that other argument?

I no can't use the Prism forums for politics, as I'm not a member anymore. Sorry.  sad
Do you have Palringo? I could create a group there...

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#1967 2010-10-14 23:26:38

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shadow_7283 wrote:

I'm not a member anymore.

Trouble?  Or just too busy?

EDIT: Never mind, I'm reading the Prism forum now...

Do you have Palringo? I could create a group there...

(pause as I read their web site...)  Oh great, all I need, chats on my phone.  I think you have me confused with a young person.  smile

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As you pointed out recently in a different context, I do have an email address for you.  We could solve this problem the straightforward way...

(P.S. How come Palringo is okay but not Skype?  hmm  )

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#1968 2010-10-15 08:21:48

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bharvey wrote:

I got the same 404 error, and so I went back to your original link and control-clicked it, and chose "save as," and then it worked!  It's just regular clicking on it that failed.

That's odd. It was working a day ago for me. Now it doesn't

bharvey wrote:

Your old version was better for me than the new one -- I have a Mac at home (but don't let's start arguing about computers).

That's another problem with .exe's...

bharvey wrote:

You really like LAUNCH!  I haven't yet looked into it much more than that, but I will.  Thanks.

The launch block really helps in making 1s 1s because you can launch a forever loop.
BTW A glitch I found while making this is that if you press pause, the launched scripts won't pause.

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#1969 2010-10-15 10:38:18

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majormax wrote:

BTW A glitch I found while making this is that if you press pause, the launched scripts won't pause.

Thanks for the bug report; we'll look into it.

Hmm, you don't think using launch and then claiming "one script" is cheating?  Those things you launched are scripts, I'd say.


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#1970 2010-10-15 14:56:48

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

majormax wrote:

bharvey wrote:

I got the same 404 error, and so I went back to your original link and control-clicked it, and chose "save as," and then it worked!  It's just regular clicking on it that failed.

That's odd. It was working a day ago for me. Now it doesn't

bharvey wrote:

Your old version was better for me than the new one -- I have a Mac at home (but don't let's start arguing about computers).

That's another problem with .exe's...

bharvey wrote:

You really like LAUNCH!  I haven't yet looked into it much more than that, but I will.  Thanks.

The launch block really helps in making 1s 1s because you can launch a forever loop.
BTW A glitch I found while making this is that if you press pause, the launched scripts won't pause.

(1s1s)s are fast because there aren't as many ScratchProcesses to, um, process.
Using the LAUNCH block starts a new process, so it isn't as effective.


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#1971 2010-10-15 14:58:07

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rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

(1s1s)s

big_smile  PARENTHESIZED NOUNS!  big_smile

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#1972 2010-10-15 16:32:25

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

Fiat500 wrote:

fishy. its not in .sb

We picked a different extension (.ypr) for BYOB projects so that you can have Scratch and BYOB both installed on your computer and they won't get in each other's way.

Very smart. I have both. No, wait I have Panther too.


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#1973 2010-10-15 16:33:29

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bharvey wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:

I'm not a member anymore.

Trouble?  Or just too busy?

EDIT: Never mind, I'm reading the Prism forum now...

Do you have Palringo? I could create a group there...

(pause as I read their web site...)  Oh great, all I need, chats on my phone.  I think you have me confused with a young person.  smile

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As you pointed out recently in a different context, I do have an email address for you.  We could solve this problem the straightforward way...

(P.S. How come Palringo is okay but not Skype?  hmm  )

I'm 10.


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#1974 2010-10-15 16:35:49

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bharvey wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:

I'm not a member anymore.

Trouble?  Or just too busy?

EDIT: Never mind, I'm reading the Prism forum now...

Do you have Palringo? I could create a group there...

(pause as I read their web site...)  Oh great, all I need, chats on my phone.  I think you have me confused with a young person.  smile

http://cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/texts.jpg

As you pointed out recently in a different context, I do have an email address for you.  We could solve this problem the straightforward way...

(P.S. How come Palringo is okay but not Skype?  hmm  )

No WONDER youre so smart! Youre 55-65! That doesnt tell us much though.....


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#1975 2010-10-15 16:41:13

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Guys, I was wondering if I could join the team. I do have experience in Scratch mods (I've made but not posted 2 ) and BYOB is really a great program. Thanks!

Scratch 1.4 Comet Programming Edition

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