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#51 2010-02-19 11:19:34

samurai768
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

Kileymeister wrote:

Well, I bet after a while some of those "trolls" will start thinking "Maybe there is more to Scratch than drawing a pic and uploading and going "LOOK I DREW A PWETTY PIKTURE!!1!1"

Hey! If people wanna draw art, they can draw art.  My best friend is just posting those projects because she is still learning to program  mad

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#52 2010-02-19 16:48:41

webgal15
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

BWOG wrote:

webgal15 wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

and best of all, no chain remixes.

There's nothing wrong with chain remixes.

Kileymeister wrote:

Well, I bet after a while some of those "trolls" will start thinking "Maybe there is more to Scratch than drawing a pic and uploading and going "LOOK I DREW A PWETTY PIKTURE!!1!1"

There's nothing wrong with art projects, even if they're only one picture.

Chain remixes: Annoying. Add yourself doing this-a-ma-jig. Add yourself doing that. BORING

Art projects: I have no problem with, unless they clutter up the front page. Because Scratch is for programming, not art. If you want to post art, then go to Deviantart and make an account. And since Scratch is for programming, non-programming stuff should NOT get on the front page.

Chain remixes: A fun past time. You may not like them, but other people do.

Art projects: I am not allowed to join dA, so Scratch is where I go. (Besides Wave and sending art emails to my friends.) If you don't like them, ignore them.


Now only using this account to post in Miscellaneous, but when Miss_Webgal becomes a Scratcher I'm ditching this account.

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#53 2010-02-19 17:01:38

demosthenes
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

rdococ wrote:

demosthenes wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

What's wrong with not being an '07er?  I really don't see a difference between users, except that Scratch itself was different in '07...

By "07er" I meant more a type of person. In general the 07 crowd was oriented to making how quality programs and applications, as well as helpful and kind. The new kind of users we get are often spammy trolls etc.

sad
Please don't say I am a spammer/troll.

To reiterate myself:

demosthnes wrote:

In general the 07 crowd . . .

Notice the "general"

demosthenes wrote:

The new kind of users we get are often . . .

Notice the "often".

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#54 2010-02-19 17:08:31

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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

But rdococ IS one of the spammers  tongue


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#55 2010-02-19 17:08:43

PlayWithFire
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

webgal15 wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

and best of all, no chain remixes.

There's nothing wrong with chain remixes.

Kileymeister wrote:

Well, I bet after a while some of those "trolls" will start thinking "Maybe there is more to Scratch than drawing a pic and uploading and going "LOOK I DREW A PWETTY PIKTURE!!1!1"

There's nothing wrong with art projects, even if they're only one picture.

yes there is.


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#56 2010-02-19 17:09:59

webgal15
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

PlayWithFire wrote:

webgal15 wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

and best of all, no chain remixes.

There's nothing wrong with chain remixes.

Kileymeister wrote:

Well, I bet after a while some of those "trolls" will start thinking "Maybe there is more to Scratch than drawing a pic and uploading and going "LOOK I DREW A PWETTY PIKTURE!!1!1"

There's nothing wrong with art projects, even if they're only one picture.

yes there is.

If you don't like them, ignore them. Simple. You don't have to try to get the Scratch Team ban them from the site.


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#57 2010-02-19 17:13:18

PlayWithFire
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

when did i try that?


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#58 2010-02-19 17:13:34

rdococ
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

Chrischb wrote:

rdococ wrote:

Chrischb wrote:


Yeah... I think it's a bit obvious there's something going on.  hmm

Yeah... I think so too.

OT: You're a moderator on the TBG forums!!

Yep.  big_smile
So is Vista.

I wish I was one.
I just wish I was one!  sad  :'(

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#59 2010-02-19 17:15:44

rdococ
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

But rdococ IS one of the spammers  tongue

What? Please don't be mean.

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#60 2010-02-19 17:16:09

hmnwilson
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

webgal15 wrote:

PlayWithFire wrote:

webgal15 wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

and best of all, no chain remixes.

There's nothing wrong with chain remixes.


There's nothing wrong with art projects, even if they're only one picture.

yes there is.

If you don't like them, ignore them. Simple. You don't have to try to get the Scratch Team ban them from the site.

There's no reason to ban them. It's just really annoying to see people posting nothing but a picture and getting on the front page for it.


I'm taking a break from Scratch until 2.0 comes out. Any messages sent between then and now probably won't be read - sorry.
(Oct. 20, 2011)

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#61 2010-02-19 17:28:30

webgal15
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

PlayWithFire wrote:

when did i try that?

The way things look, it looks like you all are trying to.

hmnwilson wrote:

webgal15 wrote:

PlayWithFire wrote:


yes there is.

If you don't like them, ignore them. Simple. You don't have to try to get the Scratch Team ban them from the site.

There's no reason to ban them. It's just really annoying to see people posting nothing but a picture and getting on the front page for it.

Then ignore it! Simple.


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#62 2010-02-19 17:30:34

Ace-of-Spades
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

rdococ wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

But rdococ IS one of the spammers  tongue

What? Please don't be mean.

*sigh* Just look above this (the quote) post.


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#63 2010-02-19 17:36:02

Greenboi
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

Will it ever end? :[

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#64 2010-02-19 17:40:30

Ace-of-Spades
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

2 different fights going on in this topic. Only Half of them are on topic though.

But I agree with webgal15, if you don't like the project just ignore it, not try to get the project type banned.


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#65 2010-02-19 18:02:00

PlayWithFire
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

nobody ever tried to get the project banned...
but i agree we should ignore it.


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#66 2010-02-19 18:04:41

The-Whiz
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

rdococ wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

rdococ wrote:


Yeah... I think so too.

OT: You're a moderator on the TBG forums!!

Yep.  big_smile
So is Vista.

I wish I was one.
I just wish I was one!  sad  :'(

You might have been elected if you hadn't plagiarized a speech instead of taking 5 minutes to make your own...

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#67 2010-02-19 18:25:52

Ace-of-Spades
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

Nah, I don't think so. No offense, rdococ.


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#68 2010-02-19 18:33:10

PlayWithFire
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

http://2007forever.webs.com/ just in case anyone was interested, i created a website where people can post their projects and art. it is meant to be the community that scratch was like in 2007.  note:  you don't have to have been from 2007 to join you can join from any time.  also in order to post games you have to post them on the scratch site first. (to get the embed code)  try out the site, you might find you enjoy it
also i need moderators for it.


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#69 2010-02-19 18:43:09

djm111
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

Webgal, I think you're getting too defensive and missing the point people are trying to make.

Imagine this:
You spend a long time (Let's say several weeks or so) programming a project. You tweak it, test and continually improve it until you have something you are extremely proud of.
Then, when you upload it to the Scratch website, it goes almost unnoticed. It's been kept from the spaces it really deserves by pictures drawn in the Scratch paint editor which could have been drawn in approximately 10 minutes, and remixes which are just an imported background and the text "Add yourself throwing up here!". Neither of these took any time or effort to make. How would you feel?
Please note, I'm not against art projects as a whole. I like stuff like MRN's art which clearly took a lot of effrot and he should be proud of because that art does show a talent.
So, please, before you criticise someone, walk a mile in your shoes. If it achieves nothing else, you'll at least be a mile away from them and with their shoes when you do so.  tongue


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#70 2010-02-19 19:13:14

Ace-of-Spades
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

Now, on to more serious matters.. What should I make a chain project about?  big_smile

Add yourself:
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-Being eaten by a T-Rex
-Being eaten by a robot
-Being eaten by a Spinosaurus

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#71 2010-02-19 19:23:24

webgal15
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

djm111 wrote:

Webgal, I think you're getting too defensive and missing the point people are trying to make.

Imagine this:
You spend a long time (Let's say several weeks or so) programming a project. You tweak it, test and continually improve it until you have something you are extremely proud of.
Then, when you upload it to the Scratch website, it goes almost unnoticed. It's been kept from the spaces it really deserves by pictures drawn in the Scratch paint editor which could have been drawn in approximately 10 minutes, and remixes which are just an imported background and the text "Add yourself throwing up here!". Neither of these took any time or effort to make. How would you feel?
Please note, I'm not against art projects as a whole. I like stuff like MRN's art which clearly took a lot of effrot and he should be proud of because that art does show a talent.
So, please, before you criticise someone, walk a mile in your shoes. If it achieves nothing else, you'll at least be a mile away from them and with their shoes when you do so.  tongue

I am against them if they look like they only took 1 minute to make.

Unless it's Top Viewed.

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#72 2010-02-19 19:26:08

RHY3756547
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

webgal15 wrote:

djm111 wrote:

Webgal, I think you're getting too defensive and missing the point people are trying to make.

Imagine this:
You spend a long time (Let's say several weeks or so) programming a project. You tweak it, test and continually improve it until you have something you are extremely proud of.
Then, when you upload it to the Scratch website, it goes almost unnoticed. It's been kept from the spaces it really deserves by pictures drawn in the Scratch paint editor which could have been drawn in approximately 10 minutes, and remixes which are just an imported background and the text "Add yourself throwing up here!". Neither of these took any time or effort to make. How would you feel?
Please note, I'm not against art projects as a whole. I like stuff like MRN's art which clearly took a lot of effrot and he should be proud of because that art does show a talent.
So, please, before you criticise someone, walk a mile in your shoes. If it achieves nothing else, you'll at least be a mile away from them and with their shoes when you do so.  tongue

I am against them if they look like they only took 1 minute to make.

Unless it's Top Viewed.

Top viewed is all rubbish. My control tester shouldn't have made it. I don't need THAT many results.

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#73 2010-02-19 19:33:37

archmage
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

Yeah, the frontpage's quality in order from best to worst is

1. featured
2. top loved
3. top viewed
4. top remixed

The featured projects always have some quality that makes them good.
Sometimes top loved has something good, but its mostly not that great
Top viewed is just projects from popular users for the most part, which is why some test projects get there sometimes
Top remixed are projects where people spend 1 minute adding a picture


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#74 2010-02-19 19:41:46

RHY3756547
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

archmage wrote:

Yeah, the frontpage's quality in order from best to worst is

1. featured
2. top loved
3. top viewed
4. top remixed

The featured projects always have some quality that makes them good.
Sometimes top loved has something good, but its mostly not that great
Top viewed is just projects from popular users for the most part, which is why some test projects get there sometimes
Top remixed are projects where people spend 1 minute adding a picture

Featured is below top loved in my opinion.

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#75 2010-02-19 19:47:08

archmage
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Re: Everything has changed; but not neccesarily for the better.

I like featured better because you can't get into it just by being well known.


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