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#1 2009-11-25 02:11:33

Chrischb
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Let's get the message system fixed!

Yes, another thread.

I've seen lots of problems with the comment filtering system.
Here are some of them:

• Not getting any messages when receiving comments and such.
• Messages not going away.
• Wrong number of messages.
• You are given messages to check but there are none.

And lots, lots more that I have forgotten.
But one thing is certain: It's time to fix it!

This is simple: If you get it, post a thread on the problem as normal. But leave a post here (explain it. Detail is wanted) to get added to the list, which will hopefully help us find a connection!

I remember that I got a comment censored, and that was irritating. What made me think was that someone else tried posting the same comment, and he got censored too!
The comment had no mispellings and such. Lots of people have had the problem, and the list shall begin!

Note:

fg123 wrote:

It seems like the censor works on words like:
"bugs"
"inconvenience"
"flag"

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Notes....................................try and find a connection!

fg123 wrote:

One of the message is : "I'm not accepting anymore new eevees if your username isn't on the list! Sorry for the inconvenience.
" Something like that.

Chrischb wrote:

I posted a comment that went like this:

   "When I tried it online, I'm not getting any bugs.  hmm "

How did that get censored? I know that spelling can be an issue, and words that are sometimes defined as passable. But the sentence (and emote) are completely innocent!

Sorry if I'm missing something obvious.

The-Whiz wrote:

I posted this:
"Just wait until the final version. There's no reason to flag anything. You can see it when it's done. If people like you hadn't commented the password on earlier versions after I asked you not to, I wouldn't have to do this. I don't see why it's not allowed; if you're smart enough you can figure out the password."
and I got this message:
"Your comment reply "Just wait until the final version. There's no reason to flag anything. You can see it when it's done. If people like you hadn't commented the password on earlier versions after I asked you not to, I wouldn't have to do this. I don't see why it's not allowed; if you're smart enough you can figure out the password." in CatBOT 0.5.1 was not posted because the system considered it inappropriate automatically.
Sometimes this automatic censorship is incorrect and we apologize if this is the case. We remind you to use appropriate language for all ages, please read the Terms of Use"

06dknibbs wrote:

I just had something like this, I got a message saying:

The notes on your project Dot Rpg V.1 is potentially using inappropriate language. We remind you to use appropriate language for all ages, please read the Terms of Use

Yet all I changed was the bottom with the "I should be making more projects soon etc:"

Nothing is inappropriate or has been removed though o.o

somelia wrote:

I commented "I didn't catch any bugs" and it censored me...

Bentheneighbor wrote:

Sometimes I get a message when I reply to someone.  That's not supposed to happen, I think.  But not so much anymore.

somelia wrote:

I also typed "I'm NOT quitting" and it also censored me...

cheddargirl wrote:

So I recently posted up a project and I wanted the notes to end with this Filipino phrase:

Gusto kong faves. Love-its, din. Fave o love-it, paki. Maraming salamat po.  smile

The Scratch website keeps rejecting it and keeps sending me automatic messages that I should use appropriate language in project notes.

Last edited by Chrischb (2010-03-29 03:25:49)


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#2 2009-11-25 15:02:47

TheoMarr
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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

I think once recently I tried to post a comment but it did not post and then only after about five minutes I was told what it is. That is a good example.

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#3 2009-11-25 20:09:34

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

There is a delay of about 5 to 10 minutes for the notification to show up.


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#4 2009-11-25 20:10:37

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

It would help a lot if you post what the message was (the one that was automatically censored).

Also, if you could mention what messages went away. Are you referring to notifications or comments on your projects?

Thanks!


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#5 2009-11-25 20:14:19

Lucario621
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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

I think for the most part you just have to refresh the page... other than that I haven't noticed many glitches.


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#6 2009-11-25 20:27:58

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

andres: One of the message is : "I'm not requesting anymore eevees if you are not a member. Sorry for the inconvenience. " Something like that.

http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=26178

Last edited by fg123 (2009-11-25 20:41:42)


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#7 2009-11-25 23:52:57

Chrischb
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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

andresmh wrote:

It would help a lot if you post what the message was (the one that was automatically censored).

Also, if you could mention what messages went away. Are you referring to notifications or comments on your projects?

Thanks!

For your first sentence:
   I finally found it! It was hard to search for it.

The message was: "When I tried it online, I'm not getting any bugs.  hmm "

For your second sententence, I can't remember much of the detail. What I remember is that people would sometimes find that messages wouldn't show up when they got a comment or a reply. For messages that wouldn't be deleted, it was pretty much anything... it's happened to all of us, and I know that I've gotten it for about every case.

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you.  hmm


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#8 2009-11-25 23:55:35

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

Now that I found that thread, I quoted some of the cases.  smile


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#9 2009-11-26 00:49:18

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

Oh, I think you have a glitch with the quotes at mine. And the exact quote is: (see next post)

It seems like the censor works on words like:
"bugs"
"inconvenience"
"flag"

I think.

Last edited by fg123 (2009-11-26 00:52:02)


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#10 2009-11-26 00:50:39

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

I'm not accepting anymore new eevees if your username isn't on the list! Sorry for the inconvenience.


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#11 2009-11-26 01:00:01

Chrischb
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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

fg123 wrote:

Oh, I think you have a glitch with the quotes at mine. And the exact quote is: (see next post)

It seems like the censor works on words like:
"bugs"
"inconvenience"
"flag"

I think.

Oops! Anyway, I'll add your later sentences in the important section.


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#12 2009-11-27 05:37:43

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

I placed a comment on archmage's stuff, asking a question...

A message I received:

Your comment "I apologize if I'm silly, but what are the details for your 'quitting'? You say that you're not making any more projects, but I see you on the forums sometimes, and you do read your comments - in other words, you're active. Will you ever be quitting, or will you just stay and enjoy the Community?" in Scratch Jr was not posted because the system considered it inappropriate automatically.
Sometimes this automatic censorship is incorrect and we apologize if this is the case. We remind you to use appropriate language for all ages, please read the Terms of Use

By the way, those links in the quote are just text with color and underline.  tongue

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#13 2009-11-27 05:42:34

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

Jonathanpb wrote:

I placed a comment on archmage's stuff, asking a question...

A message I received:

Your comment "I apologize if I'm silly, but what are the details for your 'quitting'? You say that you're not making any more projects, but I see you on the forums sometimes, and you do read your comments - in other words, you're active. Will you ever be quitting, or will you just stay and enjoy the Community?" in Scratch Jr was not posted because the system considered it inappropriate automatically.
Sometimes this automatic censorship is incorrect and we apologize if this is the case. We remind you to use appropriate language for all ages, please read the Terms of Use

By the way, those links in the quote are just text with color and underline.  tongue

That's very interesting, but it's not what I'm looking for. That's a problem with the filter, not the message system.


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#14 2009-11-27 05:43:42

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

Oops! I thought I saw some quotes with that stuff in your topic post...

Yes! It's all over your topic post!


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#15 2009-11-27 05:46:01

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

Jonathanpb wrote:

Oops! I thought I saw some quotes with that stuff in your topic post...

Yes! It's all over your topic post!

NO! I GOOFED!

I'm sorry. This fell down and I dozed off.  sad  Please forgive me.


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#16 2009-11-29 21:36:31

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

I commented "I didn't catch any bugs" and it censored me...

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#17 2009-11-29 22:00:33

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

somelia wrote:

I commented "I didn't catch any bugs" and it censored me...

Added.  smile


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#18 2009-12-05 18:50:08

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

Sometimes I get a message when I reply to someone.  That's not supposed to happen, I think.  But not so much anymore.


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#19 2009-12-05 22:24:25

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

Bentheneighbor wrote:

Sometimes I get a message when I reply to someone.  That's not supposed to happen, I think.  But not so much anymore.

Yes, it's not supposed to happen... I'll add you.


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#20 2009-12-05 22:59:01

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

I also typed "I'm NOT quitting" and it also censored me...

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#21 2010-03-29 02:14:28

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

Rather than posting my own thread about the problem, I'm just going to necropost in here  tongue
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So I recently posted up a project and I wanted the notes to end with this Filipino phrase:

Gusto kong faves. Love-its, din. Fave o love-it, paki. Maraming salamat po.  smile

The Scratch website keeps rejecting it and keeps sending me automatic messages that I should use appropriate language in project notes.

I realize the filter system is not perfect and that it sometimes bans words or phrases that incidentally has a bad word embedded in it (such as "grape") - however, in here I don't see a word or phrase in there that the filter sees as inappropriate (or maybe I'm not searching hard enough?), so I'm not exactly sure what is making the filter tick off.  hmm


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#22 2010-03-29 03:23:55

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

Ooh, bumped!  big_smile
....................................
Updating.  smile


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#23 2010-03-29 05:40:08

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

cheddargirl wrote:

I recently posted up a project and I wanted the notes to end with this Filipino phrase:

Gusto kong faves. Love-its, din. Fave o love-it, paki. Maraming salamat po.  smile

The Scratch website keeps rejecting it and keeps sending me automatic messages that I should use appropriate language in project notes.

I realize the filter system is not perfect and that it sometimes bans words or phrases that incidentally has a bad word embedded in it (such as "grape") - however, in here I don't see a word or phrase in there that the filter sees as inappropriate (or maybe I'm not searching hard enough?), so I'm not exactly sure what is making the filter tick off.  hmm

I can't find it either...

Maybe you could try uploading bits of the phrase at a time? You could try to locate what bit is setting it off.


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#24 2010-03-29 07:20:35

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

thanks for info

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#25 2010-03-29 14:23:53

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Re: Let's get the message system fixed!

Jonathanpb wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

I recently posted up a project and I wanted the notes to end with this Filipino phrase:

Gusto kong faves. Love-its, din. Fave o love-it, paki. Maraming salamat po.  smile

The Scratch website keeps rejecting it and keeps sending me automatic messages that I should use appropriate language in project notes.

I realize the filter system is not perfect and that it sometimes bans words or phrases that incidentally has a bad word embedded in it (such as "grape") - however, in here I don't see a word or phrase in there that the filter sees as inappropriate (or maybe I'm not searching hard enough?), so I'm not exactly sure what is making the filter tick off.  hmm

I can't find it either...

Maybe you could try uploading bits of the phrase at a time? You could try to locate what bit is setting it off.

Thanks for the idea. I found the trigger word - "paki".


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