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#1 2009-10-17 04:16:07

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Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

okay, they are moving TBG to a different part of the site, right?

well what difference does it make that it is some where else on the web site? wouldn't all the reasons against it still apply?

and if so, wouldn't it just be easier to leave it where it is? or simply recruit more willing mods to help moderate the forums? you'd have to do it any way for the new text based games site thingy.

also:

• A site like "New Grounds" has text based games in their forums right? and they still get along nicely...
• why suddenly delete it now? think of the reasons why it was created in the first place

that's what i think. respect my opinion, as i have respected yours  smile


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#2 2009-10-17 09:38:58

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

I think that it is because users spend too much time in TBG, and they clutter up the forums.

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#3 2009-10-17 10:15:52

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

Andres listed the reasons why they may be moving/being deleted in the first post of his sticky topic and they we're reasonable.


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#4 2009-10-17 23:31:32

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

okay...i just wanted to brainstorm some possible reasons...


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#5 2009-10-18 02:07:41

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

08jackt wrote:

okay, they are moving TBG to a different part of the site, right?

well what difference does it make that it is some where else on the web site? wouldn't all the reasons against it still apply?

There are two reasons:

1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them).
2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch.


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#6 2009-10-18 06:55:13

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

Jonathanpb wrote:

08jackt wrote:

okay, they are moving TBG to a different part of the site, right?

well what difference does it make that it is some where else on the web site? wouldn't all the reasons against it still apply?

There are two reasons:

1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them).
2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch.

"2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch" so why bother moving it?

"1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them)." why not just get the mods from the "new" tbg to moderate the ones we have now, instead of getting them to moderate in the new one?


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#7 2009-10-19 04:33:55

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

hahaha! no one replied!!!!!! that means no one thinks im wrong! HURRAY FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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#8 2009-10-19 08:07:38

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

Bump


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#9 2009-10-19 09:04:35

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

It was just an experimental thing, I guess...


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#10 2009-10-19 16:01:43

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

I agree.


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#11 2009-10-19 16:06:27

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

The-Whiz wrote:

I think that it is because users spend too much time in TBG, and they clutter up the forums.

But the reason it was created in the first place was so that the forums wouldn't be cluttered up.

Jonathanpb wrote:

There are two reasons:

1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them).
2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch.

1. As 08jackt said:

and if so, wouldn't it just be easier to leave it where it is? or simply recruit more willing mods to help moderate the forums? you'd have to do it any way for the new text based games site thingy.

2. Also as 08jackt said:

• A site like "New Grounds" has text based games in their forums right? and they still get along nicely...


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#12 2009-10-19 17:54:35

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

Jonathanpb wrote:

08jackt wrote:

okay, they are moving TBG to a different part of the site, right?

well what difference does it make that it is some where else on the web site? wouldn't all the reasons against it still apply?

There are two reasons:

1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them).
2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch.

1. Isn't moderating ANYTHING a burden? Why do they even moderate ANYTHING?

2. Neither is Inspiration and More. But it inspires people to make projects in scratch. In fact, some projects aren't relevant to scratch. IN FACT, some galleries aren't relevant to scratch. IN FACT, if you really think about it, a lot of things in scratch aren't relevant to scratch. If you put it like that, NOTHING is relevant to scratch except scratch itself (which has a TBG in it).


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#13 2009-10-19 20:16:22

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

I still can't understand the reasoning behind "It's not related to scratch, so it shouldn't exist".

If you look, there's 4 sections of the forums: "Scratch", "Scratch in Other Languages", "Other", and "Archived Forums". The unrelated-to-scratch topics go in "Other", while everything else goes in the other sections. If IaM and TBG were mixed in with everything else, that would be one thing, but right now they don't disturb each other in any way. And just looking at other forums that have TBGs, it seems well-placed to me.

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#14 2009-10-19 23:43:08

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

I agree.


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#15 2009-10-20 01:42:03

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

08jackt wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

08jackt wrote:

okay, they are moving TBG to a different part of the site, right?

well what difference does it make that it is some where else on the web site? wouldn't all the reasons against it still apply?

There are two reasons:

1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them).
2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch.

"2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch" so why bother moving it?

"1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them)." why not just get the mods from the "new" tbg to moderate the ones we have now, instead of getting them to moderate in the new one?

People sometimes Scratch just for the Text-Based Games. If the Text-Based Games gets moved, people will go to there instead.

Why have something in the Scratch Forums that is completely irrevelant?


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#16 2009-10-20 01:43:09

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

08jackt wrote:

hahaha! no one replied!!!!!! that means no one thinks im wrong! HURRAY FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why don't you be patient? Idiotic.


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#17 2009-10-20 01:45:41

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

iamrpk wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

08jackt wrote:

okay, they are moving TBG to a different part of the site, right?

well what difference does it make that it is some where else on the web site? wouldn't all the reasons against it still apply?

There are two reasons:

1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them).
2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch.

1. Isn't moderating ANYTHING a burden? Why do they even moderate ANYTHING?

2. Neither is Inspiration and More. But it inspires people to make projects in scratch. In fact, some projects aren't relevant to scratch. IN FACT, some galleries aren't relevant to scratch. IN FACT, if you really think about it, a lot of things in scratch aren't relevant to scratch. If you put it like that, NOTHING is relevant to scratch except scratch itself (which has a TBG in it).

1. Idiot. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard (even more than when someone said that invisible text was useless because you could still highlight it). If there weren't moderators, there would be tons of bad language, advertising, spam, etc.... can't people actually use their brains?

2. Inspiration and More deserves to go too, but it has a slight relevance to Scratch... but it does deserve to go.

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#18 2009-10-20 01:47:29

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

hmnwilson wrote:

I still can't understand the reasoning behind "It's not related to scratch, so it shouldn't exist".

If you look, there's 4 sections of the forums: "Scratch", "Scratch in Other Languages", "Other", and "Archived Forums". The unrelated-to-scratch topics go in "Other", while everything else goes in the other sections. If IaM and TBG were mixed in with everything else, that would be one thing, but right now they don't disturb each other in any way. And just looking at other forums that have TBGs, it seems well-placed to me.

Do you think that Microsoft should market their own breakfast cereal? No. It's practically the same thing.

Just have "Other" marked in the forums does nothing except admit that it's unrelated to Scratch.

Who said that Inspiration and More was disturbing Text-Based Games?


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#19 2009-10-20 01:51:13

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

martianshark wrote:

The-Whiz wrote:

I think that it is because users spend too much time in TBG, and they clutter up the forums.

But the reason it was created in the first place was so that the forums wouldn't be cluttered up.

Jonathanpb wrote:

There are two reasons:

1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them).
2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch.

1. As 08jackt said:

and if so, wouldn't it just be easier to leave it where it is? or simply recruit more willing mods to help moderate the forums? you'd have to do it any way for the new text based games site thingy.

2. Also as 08jackt said:

• A site like "New Grounds" has text based games in their forums right? and they still get along nicely...

People sometimes Scratch just for the Text-Based Games. If the Text-Based Games gets moved, people will go to there instead.

Why have something in the Scratch Forums that is completely irrevelant?

Isn't it better to have a different website for something that is irrevelant?

Who said that the Text-Based Games wasn't going along nicely?


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#20 2009-10-20 01:55:40

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

Why is it always me who has to explain everything to these people who don't know anything? Haven't I done enough? I've kept at it, writing threads, arguing, explaining things... the arguing and explaining to all of those people is really exhausting.

Why me?

When will I get a "Thank you" from the Scratch Team? At least a simple mention of me or a bit of credit? It seems exaggerated, but I honestly feel tired of all this. At least I don't have to write the threads any more...

That's enough of that post.

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#21 2009-10-20 05:01:48

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

Jonathanpb wrote:

Why is it always me who has to explain everything to these people who don't know anything? Haven't I done enough? I've kept at it, writing threads, arguing, explaining things... the arguing and explaining to all of those people is really exhausting.

Why me?

When will I get a "Thank you" from the Scratch Team? At least a simple mention of me or a bit of credit? It seems exaggerated, but I honestly feel tired of all this. At least I don't have to write the threads any more...

That's enough of that post.

you still haven't answered my question! idiotic


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#22 2009-10-20 05:04:44

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

08jackt wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

08jackt wrote:

okay, they are moving TBG to a different part of the site, right?

well what difference does it make that it is some where else on the web site? wouldn't all the reasons against it still apply?

There are two reasons:

1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them).
2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch.

"2. The Text-Based Games aren't relevant to Scratch" so why bother moving it?

"1. The Scratch moderators won't have to moderate the Text-Based Games any more (it's been a burden to them)." why not just get the mods from the "new" tbg to moderate the ones we have now, instead of getting them to moderate in the new one?

ANSWER THOSE > sad


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#23 2009-10-20 05:06:44

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

Oh, stop arguing. The Scratch Team won't change their minds.


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#24 2009-10-20 05:07:36

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

08jackt wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Why is it always me who has to explain everything to these people who don't know anything? Haven't I done enough? I've kept at it, writing threads, arguing, explaining things... the arguing and explaining to all of those people is really exhausting.

Why me?

When will I get a "Thank you" from the Scratch Team? At least a simple mention of me or a bit of credit? It seems exaggerated, but I honestly feel tired of all this. At least I don't have to write the threads any more...

That's enough of that post.

you still haven't answered my question! idiotic

This was not for you. Idiotic.


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#25 2009-10-20 05:10:09

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Re: Why The Text Based Games Should Stay...i think...?

Guys, please stop flaming each other and try to be more respective.  smile


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