Scratch

Paddle2See wrote:

big-bang wrote:

archmage wrote:

I think there needs to be more variety.

Yeah... we don't NEED "Make a circle, pass it on" dominating every single page. Remixing these projects and bragging about it shows that you have no programming skills. And it's still a BIG WASTE OF TIME!!! Reason? You could be trying to make the frontpage in ANOTHER way!!! Doody's pen project is NOT the best pen on Scratch...

I guess I disagree with you here.  Everybody scratches in their own way.  The remix games help build a sense of community and encourage people to download and look at other people's scripts - which is a great way to learn! 

Also, I take exception to the remark in your signature.  Front page positions simply show a snapshot of how people are viewing and reacting to projects in the recent past - they are never a measure of intrinsic quality (a possible exception is the Featured category).  Why would you single out one person's project for this remark?  How do you think that makes them feel?

Well it depends which "remix games" your talking about.  If its a remix pass it on, then 99.997284 of them are just making a picture, writing your name, AND JUST DUPLICATING A SPRITE AND DRAWING AN ICKIFUL  DRAWING! Well just get rid of the ickiful part for now. But scratch isn't about just making good pictures. However MyRedNeptune and Boopaloo are different, they are usually request and used in ACTUAL GAMES.

hmnwilson wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

I guess I disagree with you here.  Everybody scratches in their own way.  The remix games help build a sense of community and encourage people to download and look at other people's scripts - which is a great way to learn! 

Also, I take exception to the remark in your signature.  Front page positions simply show a snapshot of how people are viewing and reacting to projects in the recent past - they are never a measure of intrinsic quality (a possible exception is the Featured category).  Why would you single out one person's project for this remark?  How do you think that makes them feel?

Well it depends which "remix games" your talking about.  If its a remix pass it on, then 99.997284 of them are just making a picture, writing your name, AND JUST DUPLICATING A SPRITE AND DRAWING AN ICKIFUL DRAWING! Well just get rid of the ickiful part for now. But scratch isn't about just making good pictures. However MyRedNeptune and Boopaloo are different, they are usually request and used in ACTUAL GAMES.

Even the people who remix those projects can take requests for actual games and do all that. And  I don't think "ickiful" describes everything people make. You can make something that's great (or OK-ish) in a remix-and-pass-it-on project... and then once you're done that, just make a game or "normal" project.

Ok...I over did the ickiful part. I'm wrong with that...can some people TRY, at least not to make to many, like no more than 2 per person?

Lucario621 wrote:

Lately, there has been too many project like "Light the Candle" where people just remix by putting adding there name, or something like that. I think that is not the point of remixing. I think its about using others projects as inspiration, and to build off of it, and stuff. What do you think we shall do?

Thats the point.

Zelda123 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

hmnwilson wrote:

Even the people who remix those projects can take requests for actual games and do all that. And  I don't think "ickiful" describes everything people make. You can make something that's great (or OK-ish) in a remix-and-pass-it-on project... and then once you're done that, just make a game or "normal" project.

Ok...I over did the ickiful part. I'm wrong with that...can some people TRY, at least not to make to many, like no more than 2 per person?

Do you have the same opinion about projects such as Scratch Yearbook 08-09 and Book of Scratch Users which tell some information about users (not just an "ickiful" drawing)?

No, actually! That's why the remix function is even there!

Zelda123 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

hmnwilson wrote:

Even the people who remix those projects can take requests for actual games and do all that. And  I don't think "ickiful" describes everything people make. You can make something that's great (or OK-ish) in a remix-and-pass-it-on project... and then once you're done that, just make a game or "normal" project.

Ok...I over did the ickiful part. I'm wrong with that...can some people TRY, at least not to make to many, like no more than 2 per person?

Do you have the same opinion about projects such as Scratch Yearbook 08-09 and Book of Scratch Users which tell some information about users (not just an "ickiful" drawing)?

Not really, its just most of the remix pass-it-on projects are very plain and unhelpful. But honestly if its original and has enough creativity then I think its ok. I mean at the Scratch Meetup Lightnin noticed me and we met, and he was saying what about making a remix pass-it-on project where you add people like listening to a jukebox, and by adding more people it will be like a bigger party. I mean  in there you take a picture of yourself in a cool pose, and maybe make yourself saying something funny, or something. So that, is a good idea.

big-bang wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Zelda123 wrote:

Do you have the same opinion about projects such as Scratch Yearbook 08-09 and Book of Scratch Users which tell some information about users (not just an "ickiful" drawing)?

Not really, its just most of the remix pass-it-on projects are very plain and unhelpful. But honestly if its original and has enough creativity then I think its ok. I mean at the Scratch Meetup Lightnin noticed me and we met, and he was saying what about making a remix pass-it-on project where you add people like listening to a jukebox, and by adding more people it will be like a bigger party. I mean  in there you take a picture of yourself in a cool pose, and maybe make yourself saying something funny, or something. So that, is a good idea.

Or maybe if you add a sentence to a story... actually, I'm going to do that! To the program!!!

Add a sentence to a story, thats a good idea!

Zelda123 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

big-bang wrote:

Or maybe if you add a sentence to a story... actually, I'm going to do that! To the program!!!

Add a sentence to a story, thats a good idea!

I'm pretty sure that's been done before.

Prove it...though I'll be sad if you do so don't...

let not bring up more anger/steam out of this topic. plus this is getting kinda offtopic.

okay, me AND Kirby agree(which is weird because we usually don't agree...) that remix ARE GOOD. 1. for new Scratchers, it helps them with starting to work with the programing. it also gives them inspiration. 2. to some people, like us, We think their funny/cool/pleasingly scary/etc. 3.In some, it lets you show off your cool sprites (if you have some) or drawings, and other people can use them in their projects! 4. so, the most remixed projects will have a lot of stuff to use, right? well people could use those things to make games/shows/etc.!
So, as you can see, we think that remix good. now that you made me get to the point, we think they're GREAT!!!!

~Meta Knight and Kirby

Although, I do believe that some "pass-it-on" projects are constructive. I saw a top remixed that was indeed, a "pass-it-on" project, but yet, it taught me how to make a scroll down function and all kinds of good stuff.

Closed by request of the topic owner.