Scratch

777w wrote:

didnt you already make a topic about this
and flash works fine whenever i use it
getting rid of flash all of the sudden is silly imo

not about the website itself.  the last one was a petition, and was in making and creating.  this one is about the website.  Why do you think IOS devices don't have support for flash?  Because of how close-minded adobe is, steve jobs got mad, and did not have availability for it.

XenoK wrote:

777w wrote:

didnt you already make a topic about this
and flash works fine whenever i use it
getting rid of flash all of the sudden is silly imo

not about the website itself.  the last one was a petition, and was in making and creating.  this one is about the website.  Why do you think IOS devices don't have support for flash?  Because of how close-minded adobe is, steve jobs got mad, and did not have availability for it.

uh okay I guess?
I'll just use a computer, then.

XenoK wrote:

777w wrote:

and flash works fine whenever i use it

Flash makes the web less accessible. At this point, it's holding back the web.

how so?
if its because of ios whatever then at the end of the day its apples fault

I am totally not doing this. Flash is wayyyyyyy faster. And if I unistall it, I won't be able to watch projects in 2.0.

XenoK wrote:

777w wrote:

XenoK wrote:

Flash makes the web less accessible. At this point, it's holding back the web.

how so?
if its because of ios whatever then at the end of the day its apples fault

It introduces some scary security and privacy issues by way of Flash cookies.

OH NO
wait, couldn't you just disable cookies?

XenoK wrote:

Why, you ask? Why does it matter, when Adobe has already neutered the platform by publicly killing Flash on mobile devices? Why does it matter when HTML5 has clearly won the fight for the future of our web browsing? Well, as we've seen with other outdated web technologies (most notably the much-lamented Internet Explorer 6), as long as software is installed on machines, there will be a contingent of decision makers who mandate its use, and there will be a requirement of continued support, the plugin will live on, and folks will continue to develop for it. Also, for unknown reasons, Adobe is still sticking with Flash as a desktop browsing technology.

what is the basis for that statement?
what makes html5 any better than flash?

777w wrote:

XenoK wrote:

Why, you ask? Why does it matter, when Adobe has already neutered the platform by publicly killing Flash on mobile devices? Why does it matter when HTML5 has clearly won the fight for the future of our web browsing? Well, as we've seen with other outdated web technologies (most notably the much-lamented Internet Explorer 6), as long as software is installed on machines, there will be a contingent of decision makers who mandate its use, and there will be a requirement of continued support, the plugin will live on, and folks will continue to develop for it. Also, for unknown reasons, Adobe is still sticking with Flash as a desktop browsing technology.

what is the basis for that statement?
what makes html5 any better than flash?

even adobe said so.

XenoK wrote:

joletole wrote:

I am totally not doing this. Flash is wayyyyyyy faster. And if I unistall it, I won't be able to watch projects in 2.0.

which is why if everyone does it, the scratch team will notice their mistake and switch it.  When 2.0 comes, I'm probably going to have to quit because I'm not using flash under any circumstances.  Until HTML5 becomes an option, I will not use scratch.

theyve already developed it so much i doubt theyd just suddenly "switch it"

XenoK wrote:

who knows what the application could sneak into your web browser, and eventually your computer?

if youre going to put it that way then i suppose we should get rid of the internet altogether since if you dont have like antivirus software this is a constant risk

XenoK wrote:

joletole wrote:

I am totally not doing this. Flash is wayyyyyyy faster. And if I unistall it, I won't be able to watch projects in 2.0.

which is why if everyone does it, the scratch team will notice their mistake and switch it.  When 2.0 comes, I'm probably going to have to quit because I'm not using flash under any circumstances.  Until HTML5 becomes an option, I will not use scratch.

They may not switch it. They may be so close to finishing it.
Outposted by 777w.

Last edited by coolhogs (2012-06-21 11:00:21)

XenoK wrote:

777w wrote:

XenoK wrote:

which is why if everyone does it, the scratch team will notice their mistake and switch it.  When 2.0 comes, I'm probably going to have to quit because I'm not using flash under any circumstances.  Until HTML5 becomes an option, I will not use scratch.

theyve already developed it so much i doubt theyd just suddenly "switch it"

XenoK wrote:

who knows what the application could sneak into your web browser, and eventually your computer?

if youre going to put it that way then i suppose we should get rid of the internet altogether since if you dont have like antivirus software this is a constant risk

if you disable flash, there's one less thing to worry about.

also, you won't be able to use Scratch
that's a bit of a problem

videogame9 wrote:

XenoK wrote:

777w wrote:

XenoK wrote:

which is why if everyone does it, the scratch team will notice their mistake and switch it.  When 2.0 comes, I'm probably going to have to quit because I'm not using flash under any circumstances.  Until HTML5 becomes an option, I will not use scratch.

theyve already developed it so much i doubt theyd just suddenly "switch it"

if youre going to put it that way then i suppose we should get rid of the internet altogether since if you dont have like antivirus software this is a constant risk

if you disable flash, there's one less thing to worry about.

also, you won't be able to use Scratch
that's a bit of a problem

he said hed quit if they did all flash

XenoK wrote:

videogame9 wrote:

XenoK wrote:

if you disable flash, there's one less thing to worry about.

also, you won't be able to use Scratch
that's a bit of a problem

then shame on the scratch team for choosing flash.

but it works
scratch and flash fit perfectly together
it was the logical way to go