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Maybe Young Scratchers?

GameHutSoftware wrote:

Instead of "Infant Scratcher", how about "N00b"?

That's even more offensive.

I don't support. It's a bit ridiculous to discriminate based on age, especially considering this is a children's site and there's no way ages can be confirmed. And it wouldn't make any sense for new users to have to get a wiki account, because they often won't be approved until they're more experienced in the community, and I don't understand why they'd need to be ignoring someone.

I really don't see any use in adding this new rank 

3sal2 wrote:

To help keep more spammers at bay, I suggest a new rank: Infant Scratchers. To become a New Scratcher you must be at least 9 years old. If you're under 9, you will also need to have at least 1 comment, 1 project with at least one view, 1 favorite, 1 post, a user on the Scratch Wiki that has made at least one edit, and one user on your ignore list. You must also read the Community Guidelines. Your birthday info will be required. Here are some properties for the new rank:

* Infant Scratchers cannot post links on the forum to links .
* Infant Scratchers have the old 360-second rule instead of the 180-second rule for New Scratchers.
* Infant Scratchers cannot use the Block Plugin outside of Help with Scripts.
* Infant Scratchers cannot make posts longer than 256 characters. They'll have a count when making posts.
* Infant Scratchers cannot view Scratch Suggestions.
* Infant Scratchers cannot make topics without permission from a former Curator like Toasty, current/former moderators like illusionist or Lightnin, the current Curator, or a Scratch Team member like andresmh.
* Infant Scratchers cannot use anonymous quotes.

Does anyone support my suggestion?

Everything highlighted in red is absolutely ridiculous. This topic appears to be very discriminatory against new users. We are supposed to welcome them, not oppress them.

Also, requiring birthday info? There are 1000 things wrong with that. Absolutely not. Why would you be required to ignore a user. Need permission to post topics? Do you realise how many new users post topics? There are probably 100+ every day. The mods have to do their jobs, not sift through frivolous requests.

TL;DR This topic is ridiculous and oppresses new users. I highly dislike it and no support at all.

jvvg wrote:

3sal2 wrote:

To help keep more spammers at bay, I suggest a new rank: Infant Scratchers. To become a New Scratcher you must be at least 9 years old. If you're under 9, you will also need to have at least 1 comment, 1 project with at least one view, 1 favorite, 1 post, a user on the Scratch Wiki that has made at least one edit, and one user on your ignore list. You must also read the Community Guidelines - Doesn't everyone have to read them?. Your birthday info will be required. Here are some properties for the new rank:

* Infant Scratchers cannot post links on the forum to links .
* Infant Scratchers have the old 360-second rule instead of the 180-second rule for New Scratchers.
*
Infant Scratchers cannot use the Block Plugin outside of Help with Scripts.
* Infant Scratchers cannot make posts longer than 256 characters. They'll have a count when making posts.
* Infant Scratchers cannot view Scratch Suggestions.
* Infant Scratchers cannot make topics without permission from a former Curator like Toasty, current/former moderators like illusionist or Lightnin, the current Curator, or a Scratch Team member like andresmh.
* Infant Scratchers cannot use anonymous quotes.

I updated it a bit. The parts I highlighted in yellow are bad, but not absolutely absurd.

I think its all absurd anyways. The reason for all this oppression is to keep spammers at bay? Whatever happened to flagging spam?

I don't support. We shouldn't discriminate people according to their age. I joined when I was 7 almost 8, and I wouldn't think it's fair to have terrible restrictions, that torture the people on this website. The 360 second rule is just ridiculous. What's wrong with 180? It's dumb that they have to wait 6 minutes just to post again. And the not posting Scratch blocks anywhere except for Help with Scripts, why can't they post in Questions about Scratch, Suggestions, or Advanced topics? I've seen many scratch blocks used there. And posts under 256 characters? This isn't twitter! (I know it's 140, but still) What if they were making something huge, and they wanted to explain it, and they can't because of that rule? And why shouldn't they be allowed to view nor vote in Scratch Suggestions? They should have a say in what goes and what doesn't in Scratch. They're part of the community too! The mods jobs are already hard enough, but now they have to accept ALL of the brand new members' posts! Why can't they use anonymous quotes? I use those all the time! Also, they can only get accepted as a Wiki editor if they're experienced. Oh, and about the ignore list, I've been on Scratch for almost 3 years, and guess how many users I have on my ignore list? 0. Zip. Zilch. Why should we torture our new members, instead of giving them an easier time to get used to Scratch? I mean, we're all a community and we should be treated equally.

funelephant wrote:

Holy moly! That's a long post! 261 words FTW!

why ftw

Wes64 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

3sal2 wrote:

To help keep more spammers at bay, I suggest a new rank: Infant Scratchers. To become a New Scratcher you must be at least 9 years old. If you're under 9, you will also need to have at least 1 comment, 1 project with at least one view, 1 favorite, 1 post, a user on the Scratch Wiki that has made at least one edit, and one user on your ignore list. You must also read the Community Guidelines - Doesn't everyone have to read them?. Your birthday info will be required. Here are some properties for the new rank:

* Infant Scratchers cannot post links on the forum to links .
* Infant Scratchers have the old 360-second rule instead of the 180-second rule for New Scratchers.
*
Infant Scratchers cannot use the Block Plugin outside of Help with Scripts.
* Infant Scratchers cannot make posts longer than 256 characters. They'll have a count when making posts.
* Infant Scratchers cannot view Scratch Suggestions.
* Infant Scratchers cannot make topics without permission from a former Curator like Toasty, current/former moderators like illusionist or Lightnin, the current Curator, or a Scratch Team member like andresmh.
* Infant Scratchers cannot use anonymous quotes.

I updated it a bit. The parts I highlighted in yellow are bad, but not absolutely absurd.

I think its all absurd anyways. The reason for all this oppression is to keep spammers at bay? Whatever happened to flagging spam?

Yeah, I see your point.

Anyway, long story short, this is a bad idea and I don't support.

how about scratch kittens lol

you do realize people would just lie about their age, right?

I think Only if they don't post any projects and have any comment views would they be at a lower rank. Other things like not having someone on your ignore list would not be right to me because i have no users on my ignore list and i am a good scratcher.

Agentpieface wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

I updated it a bit. The parts I highlighted in yellow are bad, but not absolutely absurd.

I think its all absurd anyways. The reason for all this oppression is to keep spammers at bay? Whatever happened to flagging spam?

what if no mods are online

Then it will get removed when they are online. Its not like the spam is going to bite you or anything. These rules wouldn't help very much anyways...

Oh, and Im so against this because I think its a bad idea. I can't agree with everything.

Last edited by Wes64 (2012-06-23 20:40:43)