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#1 2012-06-12 21:04:01

majormax
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Building a computer

I might be building a computer. I need to find the best parts I can get for $800. I am trying to beat a computer my dad found.
Case*: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6811147153
Sata cables (2): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6812719003
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813138355
Video: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814121446
CPU**: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819115074
RAM***: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820104173
HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6822136769
CD/DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6827136247
OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6832116986
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6817171046
*Case can't be any higher than 17.5 inches
**Needs to be intel
***6-8 GB

Could you help me find cheaper or better parts? (keep in mind $800 budget)
Also, check for compatibility (I'm pretty sure they are compatible)

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#2 2012-06-12 21:13:18

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Re: Building a computer

One of my friends (FutureSightTech) says he can build one for about $600 or $700. I'll let him know about this to see if he can help you.


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#3 2012-06-12 21:16:52

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Re: Building a computer

Where is the PSU on that list?


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#4 2012-06-12 21:18:09

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Re: Building a computer

I will look into it. BTW, chech and see if any parts of your comptuer don't include the cables. What specs do you want?

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#5 2012-06-12 21:32:38

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Re: Building a computer

FutureSightTech wrote:

I will look into it. BTW, chech and see if any parts of your comptuer don't include the cables. What specs do you want?

Some cases include Power supplies. His doesn't, but that could be why he overlooked it.

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#6 2012-06-12 21:38:59

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Re: Building a computer

If you are trying to stay cheaper than a mass-produced computer good luck, It is hard to do that because those companies can buy at reduced prices when they buy in bulk.

Futuresight's one model is $525, single core 2.6 AMD processor, 2gb ram, and not very suped up at all. It is built to be plugged into a tv and used to watch dvd's, netflix, hulu, etc...

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#7 2012-06-12 21:46:12

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Re: Building a computer

FutureSightTech wrote:

FutureSightTech wrote:

I will look into it. BTW, chech and see if any parts of your comptuer don't include the cables. What specs do you want?

Some cases include Power supplies. His doesn't, but that could be why he overlooked it.

lol, I think you meant to quote me.

Anyway, Makes scene. Whatcha think, 550-650w should cover that setup? That's what i'm thinkin.


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#8 2012-06-12 21:50:01

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Re: Building a computer

FutureSightTech wrote:

If you are trying to stay cheaper than a mass-produced computer good luck, It is hard to do that because those companies can buy at reduced prices when they buy in bulk.

Futuresight's one model is $525, single core 2.6 AMD processor, 2gb ram, and not very suped up at all. It is built to be plugged into a tv and used to watch dvd's, netflix, hulu, etc...

$525 for a single core AMD and 2gb RAM? No offence but that sound massively overpriced.  A PS3 could pwn it.

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#9 2012-06-12 21:53:11

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Re: Building a computer

Targethero wrote:

FutureSightTech wrote:

If you are trying to stay cheaper than a mass-produced computer good luck, It is hard to do that because those companies can buy at reduced prices when they buy in bulk.

Futuresight's one model is $525, single core 2.6 AMD processor, 2gb ram, and not very suped up at all. It is built to be plugged into a tv and used to watch dvd's, netflix, hulu, etc...

$525 for a single core AMD with 2gb RAM? No offence but that sound massively overpriced.  An PS3 could pwn that.

We charge list price for all of the parts. But newegg gives us at least 100 dollars in discounts, and that's all of the profit we make. We could charge less, but we want to have enough money to buy parts for future sales, so we can pay if something goes wrong.

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#10 2012-06-12 21:57:08

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Re: Building a computer

FutureSightTech wrote:

Targethero wrote:

FutureSightTech wrote:

If you are trying to stay cheaper than a mass-produced computer good luck, It is hard to do that because those companies can buy at reduced prices when they buy in bulk.

Futuresight's one model is $525, single core 2.6 AMD processor, 2gb ram, and not very suped up at all. It is built to be plugged into a tv and used to watch dvd's, netflix, hulu, etc...

$525 for a single core AMD with 2gb RAM? No offence but that sound massively overpriced.  An PS3 could pwn that.

We charge list price for all of the parts. But newegg gives us at least 100 dollars in discounts, and that's all of the profit we make. We could charge less, but we want to have enough money to buy parts for future sales, so we can pay if something goes wrong.

What parts exactly do you use? mind posting a list?


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#11 2012-06-12 21:57:12

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Re: Building a computer

FutureSightTech wrote:

Targethero wrote:

FutureSightTech wrote:

If you are trying to stay cheaper than a mass-produced computer good luck, It is hard to do that because those companies can buy at reduced prices when they buy in bulk.

Futuresight's one model is $525, single core 2.6 AMD processor, 2gb ram, and not very suped up at all. It is built to be plugged into a tv and used to watch dvd's, netflix, hulu, etc...

$525 for a single core AMD with 2gb RAM? No offence but that sound massively overpriced.  An PS3 could pwn that.

We charge list price for all of the parts. But newegg gives us at least 100 dollars in discounts, and that's all of the profit we make. We could charge less, but we want to have enough money to buy parts for future sales, so we can pay if something goes wrong.

This confuses me.

Are you suddenly not commercial spam because you are a product made by a Scratcher?
You sell stuff for money so without bias you would be.


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#12 2012-06-12 22:05:27

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Re: Building a computer

soupoftomato wrote:

FutureSightTech wrote:

Targethero wrote:


$525 for a single core AMD with 2gb RAM? No offence but that sound massively overpriced.  An PS3 could pwn that.

We charge list price for all of the parts. But newegg gives us at least 100 dollars in discounts, and that's all of the profit we make. We could charge less, but we want to have enough money to buy parts for future sales, so we can pay if something goes wrong.

This confuses me.

Are you suddenly not commercial spam because you are a product made by a Scratcher?
You sell stuff for money so without bias you would be.

I am not trying to advertise. The only computer I have designed, I designed for my company, and I am trying to give examples of costs.

Before adding the mouse/keyboard in, the machine cost about 400 to make. I don't really want to post a list of parts, but almost everything was on the first page when you sort "Price: Low to High" on newegg in the parts respective categories. And some of them were combo deals.

With the keyboard and mouse, it is $418.89, and we charge $525. We might drop our price. We also sell custom built computers.

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#13 2012-06-12 22:07:03

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Re: Building a computer

soupoftomato wrote:

Are you suddenly not commercial spam because you are a product made by a Scratcher?
You sell stuff for money so without bias you would be.

He is not a commercial spammer. I know him personally.
I just asked for him to come here to offer advice, since he is building computers.


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#14 2012-06-12 22:08:32

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Re: Building a computer

FutureSightTech wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

FutureSightTech wrote:


We charge list price for all of the parts. But newegg gives us at least 100 dollars in discounts, and that's all of the profit we make. We could charge less, but we want to have enough money to buy parts for future sales, so we can pay if something goes wrong.

This confuses me.

Are you suddenly not commercial spam because you are a product made by a Scratcher?
You sell stuff for money so without bias you would be.

I am not trying to advertise. The only computer I have designed, I designed for my company, and I am trying to give examples of costs.

Before adding the mouse/keyboard in, the machine cost about 400 to make. I don't really want to post a list of parts, but almost everything was on the first page when you sort "Price: Low to High" on newegg in the parts respective categories. And some of them were combo deals.

With the keyboard and mouse, it is $418.89, and we charge $525. We might drop our price. We also sell custom built computers.

No, I meant the whole account.

I looked at the website and you sell things for money.


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#15 2012-06-12 22:11:09

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Re: Building a computer

And with a tuner and blue-ray, it is 664.99. Once again, I am not trying to advertise, but tell about pricing.

I don't think we charged any extra for the tuner or blue-ray, just what we pay for them.

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#16 2012-06-12 22:13:20

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Re: Building a computer

It's fine to offer advice in selecting components for a computer build - and I think that's what's going on here - but please be aware that we don't usually allow people to advertise products for profit on the Scratch site.  So if you have component advice, please go ahead and give it - but as far as I know, the original poster is not looking to purchase a completed build.


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#17 2012-06-12 22:13:27

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Re: Building a computer

soupoftomato wrote:

FutureSightTech wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

This confuses me.

Are you suddenly not commercial spam because you are a product made by a Scratcher?
You sell stuff for money so without bias you would be.

I am not trying to advertise. The only computer I have designed, I designed for my company, and I am trying to give examples of costs.

Before adding the mouse/keyboard in, the machine cost about 400 to make. I don't really want to post a list of parts, but almost everything was on the first page when you sort "Price: Low to High" on newegg in the parts respective categories. And some of them were combo deals.

With the keyboard and mouse, it is $418.89, and we charge $525. We might drop our price. We also sell custom built computers.

No, I meant the whole account.

I looked at the website and you sell things for money.

The only product that is currently available that we sell for money is EasyTab, and we may make it free soon. Everything else is free.

Edit: we are planning on adding custom computers someday, and I told him to not advertise like that again.

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#18 2012-06-12 22:16:04

FutureSightTech
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Re: Building a computer

soupoftomato wrote:

FutureSightTech wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


This confuses me.

Are you suddenly not commercial spam because you are a product made by a Scratcher?
You sell stuff for money so without bias you would be.

I am not trying to advertise. The only computer I have designed, I designed for my company, and I am trying to give examples of costs.

Before adding the mouse/keyboard in, the machine cost about 400 to make. I don't really want to post a list of parts, but almost everything was on the first page when you sort "Price: Low to High" on newegg in the parts respective categories. And some of them were combo deals.

With the keyboard and mouse, it is $418.89, and we charge $525. We might drop our price. We also sell custom built computers.

No, I meant the whole account.

I looked at the website and you sell things for money.

We have one product we sell. I am preety sure everything else is free. I also don't run the company myself, it is a joint company between ls97, jvvg, and myself. We started out as two seperate companies, who both started using scratch. I created this account because I couldn't think of a name, and I didn't want to use my previous account which was named jvvg-employee.

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#19 2012-06-12 22:19:32

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Re: Building a computer

Paddle2See wrote:

It's fine to offer advice in selecting components for a computer build - and I think that's what's going on here - but please be aware that we don't usually allow people to advertise products for profit on the Scratch site.  So if you have component advice, please go ahead and give it - but as far as I know, the original poster is not looking to purchase a completed build.

Sorry. I was trying to tell him prices of the build, not how much ours cost.

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#20 2012-06-12 22:22:57

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Re: Building a computer

I meant trying to tell him how much the manufacturing of ours costs, not try to sell him one.

Once again sorry.

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#21 2012-06-12 23:29:31

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Re: Building a computer

Are you trying to beat it with the cpu or for gaming fps?


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#22 2012-06-13 06:42:07

majormax
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Re: Building a computer

jji7skyline wrote:

Are you trying to beat it with the cpu or for gaming fps?

Just overall better performance

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#23 2012-06-13 06:48:15

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Re: Building a computer

Right now I'm at $855.
Maybe there is a cheaper graphics card?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814130625

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#24 2012-06-13 08:10:35

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Re: Building a computer

I found this AMD one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814161377

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#25 2012-06-13 08:42:37

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Re: Building a computer

It looks like you escaped the usual messups people make when finding parts (like picking a CPU that won't fit in the motherboard).

The only recommendations I have are to maybe get this, and note that the card jj showed you is dual slot, which means you might not have room for other stuff you want to put in the computer later.


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