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scimonster wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

@web programmers: yeah have a good time accessing the file system and other high level  functions of the device.

In the occasional event that you need to access the file system, the browser provides a file manager. That should be good for most programs. Sending an Ajax request to a PHP file that uses scandir() could provide a more GUI-ish file browser. What other high-level functions are you thinking of?

In the future more things may move to the web, but at the moment there are still much more game engines, etc. for non-web environments.

Apple is good if you have a lot of money. PCs are good if you just want a basic "I AM A COMPUTER" stuff. Apple has better graphics than PCs, whereas PCs are still handy in a number of ways. It's really just a matter of perspective. 

Well, for a small business, I would recommend a Mac because of all the better tools and apps and things, but for big businesses, PCs are the way to go because they are cheaper and you can make them look boring by changing their theme to Windows Classic 

And as for the MacDefender malware (and no Mac doesn't have viruses, only other types of malware) you can remove it simply by dragging the app to trash and emptying trash. Nothing like a real malware infection like you might get on a PC.

jji7skyline wrote:

]Well, for a small business, I would recommend a Mac because of all the better tools and apps and things

Actually, Windows has better tools and apps.

jji7skyline wrote:

but for big businesses, PCs are the way to go because they are cheaper and you can make them look boring by changing their theme to Windows Classic 

Haha, hilarious.

jji7skyline wrote:

And as for the MacDefender malware (and no Mac doesn't have viruses, only other types of malware) you can remove it simply by dragging the app to trash and emptying trash. Nothing like a real malware infection like you might get on a PC.

From firsthand experience, I can prove you wrong. It took antivirus software to remove it, just like on Windows.

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Well, for a small business, I would recommend a Mac because of all the better tools and apps and things, but for big businesses, PCs are the way to go because they are cheaper and you can make them look boring by changing their theme to Windows Classic 

And as for the MacDefender malware (and no Mac doesn't have viruses, only other types of malware) you can remove it simply by dragging the app to trash and emptying trash. Nothing like a real malware infection like you might get on a PC.

Just another reason Macs hate the environment. Windows has a recycling bin, Mac has a trash can.

jji7skyline wrote:

jvvg wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

]Well, for a small business, I would recommend a Mac because of all the better tools and apps and things

Actually, Windows has better tools and apps.

jji7skyline wrote:

but for big businesses, PCs are the way to go because they are cheaper and you can make them look boring by changing their theme to Windows Classic 

Haha, hilarious.

jji7skyline wrote:

And as for the MacDefender malware (and no Mac doesn't have viruses, only other types of malware) you can remove it simply by dragging the app to trash and emptying trash. Nothing like a real malware infection like you might get on a PC.

From firsthand experience, I can prove you wrong. It took antivirus software to remove it, just like on Windows.

Sure windows has more software available but mac apps are generally better built in my opinion.

It's true you know.

I know it as a fact that the macdefender trojan was easily removed  by deleting the app and removing it from startup items. Google it.

Macs are actually NOT better built (it's so bad if I have physical access to a Mac, I can reset the passwords in under 5 minutes).

It also illustrates BSD, which is NOT by Apple. It is about hiding that, and it is so bad that the root password is blank unless you find out through Google how and why to change it.

The virus I got on my Mac was actually pretty deadly, and any smug Mac user who thinks "Macs don't get viruses" would lose a bunch of data, and could become an identity theft victim. It took more than just deleting some stuff to get rid of this. It took a couple hours with my anti-virus and then booting into Terminal and deleting a ton of really obscure files.

jji7skyline wrote:

jvvg wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Sure windows has more software available but mac apps are generally better built in my opinion.

It's true you know.

I know it as a fact that the macdefender trojan was easily removed  by deleting the app and removing it from startup items. Google it.

Macs are actually NOT better built (it's so bad if I have physical access to a Mac, I can reset the passwords in under 5 minutes).

It also illustrates BSD, which is NOT by Apple. It is about hiding that, and it is so bad that the root password is blank unless you find out through Google how and why to change it.

The virus I got on my Mac was actually pretty deadly, and any smug Mac user who thinks "Macs don't get viruses" would lose a bunch of data, and could become an identity theft victim. It took more than just deleting some stuff to get rid of this. It took a couple hours with my anti-virus and then booting into Terminal and deleting a ton of really obscure files.

There are many ways of reset passwords on Windows too 

The root password (used with sudo) is the admin's password on Mac. Superuser or Root can be enabled, but is disabled by default.

What was the name of the virus? I genuinely want to know 

1. It's MUCH harder
2. And yet somehow, I can boot them into terminal as root with no password
3. I don't remember and the antivirus only keeps logs for the past 30 days (I got the virus over 5 months ago)

ftf841 wrote:

jvvg wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Sure windows has more software available but mac apps are generally better built in my opinion.

It's true you know.

I know it as a fact that the macdefender trojan was easily removed  by deleting the app and removing it from startup items. Google it.

Macs are actually NOT better built (it's so bad if I have physical access to a Mac, I can reset the passwords in under 5 minutes).

It also illustrates BSD, which is NOT by Apple. It is about hiding that, and it is so bad that the root password is blank unless you find out through Google how and why to change it.

The virus I got on my Mac was actually pretty deadly, and any smug Mac user who thinks "Macs don't get viruses" would lose a bunch of data, and could become an identity theft victim. It took more than just deleting some stuff to get rid of this. It took a couple hours with my anti-virus and then booting into Terminal and deleting a ton of really obscure files.

I have a friend that thinks mac's NEVER get viruses.

A typical smug Apple user that is a victim of their propaganda. 

Have you ever tried to compile C/C++ libraries on Windows?


*shivers*

Linux is the best.

veggieman001 wrote:

agscratcher wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

What do you have against Solaris?

Maybe because it shares its name with something from Sonic '06?

1. I don't think steve'd know that
2. Solaris came first, in 1992

lolno. OpenVMS came out in 1979 brah. OPENVMS FOREVER!

FINALLY! AN OS WITHOUT ANNOYING FANGIRLS!

jvvg wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

jvvg wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

]Well, for a small business, I would recommend a Mac because of all the better tools and apps and things

Actually, Windows has better tools and apps.

jji7skyline wrote:

but for big businesses, PCs are the way to go because they are cheaper and you can make them look boring by changing their theme to Windows Classic 

Haha, hilarious.


From firsthand experience, I can prove you wrong. It took antivirus software to remove it, just like on Windows.

Sure windows has more software available but mac apps are generally better built in my opinion.

It's true you know.

I know it as a fact that the macdefender trojan was easily removed  by deleting the app and removing it from startup items. Google it.

Macs are actually NOT better built (it's so bad if I have physical access to a Mac, I can reset the passwords in under 5 minutes).

It also illustrates BSD, which is NOT by Apple. It is about hiding that, and it is so bad that the root password is blank unless you find out through Google how and why to change it.

The virus I got on my Mac was actually pretty deadly, and any smug Mac user who thinks "Macs don't get viruses" would lose a bunch of data, and could become an identity theft victim. It took more than just deleting some stuff to get rid of this. It took a couple hours with my anti-virus and then booting into Terminal and deleting a ton of really obscure files.

ACTUALLY, my friend, I believe the root password by default is random. You can only select a root password of your choice using sudo. It's not like you can just log in to the root account by default without a password. Though, if it IS truly like that, then that fact contributes to the theory that Mac OS X truly is the worse *nix out there.

jji7skyline wrote:

jvvg wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

]Well, for a small business, I would recommend a Mac because of all the better tools and apps and things

Actually, Windows has better tools and apps.

jji7skyline wrote:

but for big businesses, PCs are the way to go because they are cheaper and you can make them look boring by changing their theme to Windows Classic 

Haha, hilarious.

jji7skyline wrote:

And as for the MacDefender malware (and no Mac doesn't have viruses, only other types of malware) you can remove it simply by dragging the app to trash and emptying trash. Nothing like a real malware infection like you might get on a PC.

From firsthand experience, I can prove you wrong. It took antivirus software to remove it, just like on Windows.

Sure windows has more software available but mac apps are generally better built in my opinion.

It's true you know.

I know it as a fact that the macdefender trojan was easily removed  by deleting the app and removing it from startup items. Google it.

Wait... you just said you can remove the app by taking it off the startup items list and deleting it? LOL! You clearly haven't an idea of what most viruses do. They get copied all over your system typically and are placed throughout your drives. BTW, the app may be placed somewhere in /etc/rc.d and if macs are as similar to BSD as they say they are, you may need to edit /etc/rc.conf and take out the virus_enable=YES part.

conbot wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

agscratcher wrote:

Maybe because it shares its name with something from Sonic '06?

1. I don't think steve'd know that
2. Solaris came first, in 1992

Solaris... takes up 1GB+ of my ram without X11 and idling.
Solaris sucked hard at first. Sun made a huge mistake in incorporating just System V code into their OS. If it were still updated, I would suggest SunOS, which used mostly BSD code. SunOS 4.1.4 was the best *nix of its time. It included a load of useful utilities and was very easy to use, especially for its time. It was up their with the Mac. Too bad, Sun's workstations were so expensive though.

SunOS w/ OpenWindows: http://toastytech.com/guis/ow3demos.png … s/ow3.html

First of all, FIXED! Second of all, I ALMOST got malware on my computer. I was about to visit a website, but then, GOOGLE stopped me. It said something like:MALWARE HAS BEEN DETECTED ON THIS SITE. DO YOU WANT TO GO ON OR LEAVE?


Obviously, I left. This was on a Mac, and Macs CAN be infected, but I still prefer macs, even with the lousy internet connection at my house.

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