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#676 2012-08-26 05:00:41

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Eh, they're fine to me.


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#677 2012-08-26 06:43:22

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Re: Mac Vs PC

I also don't like the pin to taskbar function.


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#678 2012-08-26 08:25:36

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

I hate the right click context menus on the win7 task bar.

jji7skyline wrote:

I also don't like the pin to taskbar function.

What's so wrong with them? And if you hate them, don't use them.  tongue


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#679 2012-08-27 18:39:42

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They are just blatant copies of the dock, that don't add much functionality. XPs taskbar was much more original.


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#680 2012-08-27 18:42:40

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Something doesn't really need to be original to be good. XP's and 7's taskbars are different. Also, the pin to taskbar reminds me more of Quick Launch than the dock.


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#681 2012-08-27 18:56:55

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If we're going to say that it ws a blatant ripoff of the dock, are we also going to discuss all the things that Apple blatantly ripped off?


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#682 2012-08-27 19:13:48

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I think there's a difference. Apple uses great ideas with potential that have not been properly commercialised yet, (mice and tablets are a good example), however Microsoft copies off other popular OSs (Ubuntu, OSX).


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#683 2012-08-27 19:27:55

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I've never really used a Mac before, but I think they are cool.


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#684 2012-08-27 20:02:18

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

I think there's a difference. Apple uses great ideas with potential that have not been properly commercialised yet, (mice and tablets are a good example), however Microsoft copies off other popular OSs (Ubuntu, OSX).

Let's see...

Apple's "Notification Center" outlined by the nice folks at Android. Patent application by Google: 2009. Implementation by Apple: 2011. Note that Google has not sued Apple over this because even after over three years, they have not been awarded this patent. Apple's Wedge shaped laptop patent was awarded about a year later. Somehow Apple can push their patents through at 3x the speed of another megacompany?

How about Android 4.0's unlock to camera feature? It was implemented in iOS as well- 6 months after it did in Android. I'll be back to add to this list.
The point is not that it isn't okay to borrow ideas - just don't criticize others for "stealing" your "original" slide to unlock patent.


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#685 2012-08-27 20:15:56

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All good examples, but what about the instances where Android has copied iOS? The app screen for instance? What about the home button, whether soft or hard? Slide to unlock? Orientation sensing? 1 finger swipe between images in gallery?

But this is a Mac vs PC topic  wink


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#686 2012-08-27 20:35:08

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

All good examples, but what about the instances where Android has copied iOS? The app screen for instance? What about the home button, whether soft or hard? Slide to unlock? Orientation sensing? 1 finger swipe between images in gallery?

But this is a Mac vs PC topic  wink

As I said at the end. The point is NOT to criticize Apple for borrowing these things from other sources. The point is that while other people have copied off of Apple, Apple has copied as well. It is fundamental that the good ideas can be shared. The idea that once one company makes a cup with a handle so you don't burn yourself if the liquid is hot (mugs, measuring cups, etc.) does not mean that they are the only people who can make those. The patent system favors big corporations who can pay to invest in their research over small companies that can have just as good ideas. (note: Google and Apple both have the resources to patent whatever they want. That last sentence was more of an anti-patent/patent reform rant.)


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#687 2012-08-27 21:22:13

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Patents protect good ideas. Imagine if you had a great idea that became slightly popular, but then a big company stole it and they made millions?


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#688 2012-08-27 21:23:43

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

Patents protect good ideas. Imagine if you had a great idea that became slightly popular, but then a big company stole it and they made millions?

I wonder . . .


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#689 2012-08-27 21:37:43

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jji7skyline wrote:

Patents protect good ideas. Imagine if you had a great idea that became slightly popular, but then a big company stole it and they made millions?

That is the point of my anti-patent rant. Patents are somewhat expensive, and obviously it is easier for a big company's legal team to beat a small business's lawyer.
Also there are overly vague patents (see Apple's wedge device patent) which eliminate other designs from legality regardless of any other resemblance.


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#690 2012-08-27 21:43:15

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I guess every system has it's faults, but patents to more good than harm IMO.


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#691 2012-10-14 08:47:19

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Bucp.

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#692 2012-10-14 10:21:44

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I would say Mac or XP.  smile
I'm using Windows currently, though.


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#693 2012-10-14 12:57:00

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I'll say something that I probably have said before, but whatever. Apple products do just feel better. The design team at apple is amazing, and they've hit the jackpot with the all-aluminum unibody design with the black bezel (one of the things I hate about the Air and Anti-Glare Pros is their silver bezel, and the white iPhone/iPads are just ugly IMO), making some of the most iconic computers today. I would say that a dream computer would be a MBP Retina running Windows and a custom interface using Rainmeter. That would just be amazing.

On another random note, is there a way to hack the 15 inch MBP BIOS so that you can use the Intel GPU in Windows? Apple currently has it set up so that other OSes in BootCamp are forced to use the dedicated graphics, using up battery.


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#694 2012-10-14 15:38:15

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PC are the best! a PC is easier to use. macs are better for things like the computers they have behind counters in some shops like holland and barret.


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#695 2012-10-14 15:40:14

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I prefer Mac. c:


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#696 2012-10-14 16:03:52

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

Patents protect good ideas. Imagine if you had a great idea that became slightly popular, but then a big company stole it and they made millions?

kind of like how Apple is only slightly popular and not making millions, unlike Android which owes everything it has to such truly innovative ideas like using one finger to swipe between images in a gallery


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#697 2012-10-14 17:25:48

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Re: Mac Vs PC

There's alot more hardware options with Windows, and Microsoft isn't so snobby about other people using their software.

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#698 2012-10-14 19:55:22

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Re: Mac Vs PC

16Skittles wrote:

I'll say something that I probably have said before, but whatever. Apple products do just feel better. The design team at apple is amazing, and they've hit the jackpot with the all-aluminum unibody design with the black bezel (one of the things I hate about the Air and Anti-Glare Pros is their silver bezel, and the white iPhone/iPads are just ugly IMO), making some of the most iconic computers today. I would say that a dream computer would be a MBP Retina running Windows and a custom interface using Rainmeter. That would just be amazing.

On another random note, is there a way to hack the 15 inch MBP BIOS so that you can use the Intel GPU in Windows? Apple currently has it set up so that other OSes in BootCamp are forced to use the dedicated graphics, using up battery.

Considering that Macs don't actually have a BIOS (they use EFI), I don't think it would be possible using BIOS, although since Bootcamp would have to emulate a BIOS, you could try hacking the emulated BIOS or something  hmm


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#699 2012-10-14 19:57:31

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Snowdrift wrote:

There's alot more hardware options with Windows, and Microsoft isn't so snobby about other people using their software.

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#700 2012-10-14 20:11:21

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Seems OSX wins everything except browser dependant tests.


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