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#476 2012-07-25 21:18:27

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

See my edit.

I don't even back up my Mac. I probably should, though. Do you or does anyone else know of a cheap but good backup solution?

I don't have anything on my Mac that requires backup other than my photos, so what I do is I backup them up to my HDD as soon as I download them to my Mac, and then I import them into iPhoto. I also burn the photos to DVDs.

EDIT: 1TB Hard Drives are very cheap these days, you can pick them up for under $100 if you know where to look. They're usually USB 2.0 or 3.0, and firewire drives are much more expensive.

Thunderbolt drives are horrendously expensive. And 75GB is plenty for Windows btw.

Where do I look, do you suggest? Under $100 for a TB would be amazing. Also, is it hard to set that up with time machine?


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#477 2012-07-25 21:23:54

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Re: Mac Vs PC

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This is not a VM, or anything of the sort topic, this is a "battle between Mac and PC" topic.


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#478 2012-07-25 21:25:37

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Re: Mac Vs PC

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This is not a VM, or anything of the sort topic, this is a "battle between Mac and PC" topic.

Discussing the features of Macs and PCs helps in the battle and better informs people about the sides.


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#479 2012-07-25 21:28:49

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Re: Mac Vs PC

stevetheipad wrote:

coolhogs wrote:

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This is not a VM, or anything of the sort topic, this is a "battle between Mac and PC" topic.

Discussing the features of Macs and PCs helps in the battle and better informs people about the sides.

Um...
That wasn't discussing the features of Macs, and PCs...

It was about a Virtual Machine, and transporting OS, or anything like that..  tongue

So...
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#480 2012-07-25 21:32:59

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Re: Mac Vs PC

stevetheipad wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:


I don't even back up my Mac. I probably should, though. Do you or does anyone else know of a cheap but good backup solution?

I don't have anything on my Mac that requires backup other than my photos, so what I do is I backup them up to my HDD as soon as I download them to my Mac, and then I import them into iPhoto. I also burn the photos to DVDs.

EDIT: 1TB Hard Drives are very cheap these days, you can pick them up for under $100 if you know where to look. They're usually USB 2.0 or 3.0, and firewire drives are much more expensive.

Thunderbolt drives are horrendously expensive. And 75GB is plenty for Windows btw.

Where do I look, do you suggest? Under $100 for a TB would be amazing. Also, is it hard to set that up with time machine?

@coolhogs: We can also discuss Windows and Mac peacefully if we like  tongue

Considering that you live in the US, you'd probably get some good deals on places like newegg.com and amazon.com. You can even get storage from Apple.com. Let me find some good examples. Seagate and WD are both good brands.

Not quite under $100 but it's 'for Mac' which is stupid because HDDs are universal, as long as you format them correctly  tongue

1.5TB for $99 on Newegg

1TB for a little less than $90

This is good value, considering that it's a portable style drive, which are usually more expensive

I don't use Time Machine, but it's very easy to set up. I prefer to backup manually, that way I save space and only backup the things I need. I might setup a Time Machine backup later though.


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#481 2012-07-25 22:20:28

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Re: Mac Vs PC

If you think it can't happen to you:
I was once a n00b, back about two years ago. I had just discovered Linux, and wanted to dual boot Windows XP and "Dang" (can't say the real name on Scratch) Small Linux. I partitioned my hard drive, installed Linux, and it worked! I was so excited! But then, I tried to boot it back into Windows. I got blue screen after blue screen on boot. My tech teacher (if you can develop a good relationship with your tech teacher, it's priceless. I have since gotten a replacement copy of Windows and a newer replacement drive from him, and he let me use his soldering iron to fix my USB drive) suggested that we take the drive out of the laptop and tried to take off the files from the drive, but then the drive wouldn't even spin up. I find it highly unlikely that it was just a coincidence. It was a 10 year old computer, but it can still happen.

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#482 2012-07-25 23:30:44

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Re: Mac Vs PC

I think all that writing and reading was too much for the old drive  tongue

My tech teacher wasn't very helpful though, he taught me Scratch (although I already knew Scratch), and taught me how to use MS Paint (which I didn't need).

I hope my future tech teachers are better  smile


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#483 2012-07-25 23:34:14

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

I think all that writing and reading was too much for the old drive  tongue

My tech teacher wasn't very helpful though, he taught me Scratch (although I already knew Scratch), and taught me how to use MS Paint (which I didn't need).

I hope my future tech teachers are better  smile

The tech people at my school are terrible. I fix everything myself (and everything goes wrong with all of the computers, Windows and Mac, at the worst possible times).


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#484 2012-07-25 23:36:24

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jvvg wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I think all that writing and reading was too much for the old drive  tongue

My tech teacher wasn't very helpful though, he taught me Scratch (although I already knew Scratch), and taught me how to use MS Paint (which I didn't need).

I hope my future tech teachers are better  smile

The tech people at my school are terrible. I fix everything myself (and everything goes wrong with all of the computers, Windows and Mac, at the worst possible times).

That's how it is with most tech people in schools I think. I'm homeschooled though, so I use my own computer.  tongue

I fix stuff myself as well. Ever since I can remember (since I was like 6 or something) I've been taking stuff apart and putting them back together  lol


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#485 2012-07-25 23:51:11

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My tech teacher might be especially good and nice considering that it's a private school, with smaller classes and everything. One of our former students even wrote the school's web site, and he named all of our school's servers after characters from The Matrix. Can't wait until Programming I next year! (freshman)


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#486 2012-07-26 00:03:54

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

jvvg wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I think all that writing and reading was too much for the old drive  tongue

My tech teacher wasn't very helpful though, he taught me Scratch (although I already knew Scratch), and taught me how to use MS Paint (which I didn't need).

I hope my future tech teachers are better  smile

The tech people at my school are terrible. I fix everything myself (and everything goes wrong with all of the computers, Windows and Mac, at the worst possible times).

That's how it is with most tech people in schools I think. I'm homeschooled though, so I use my own computer.  tongue

I fix stuff myself as well. Ever since I can remember (since I was like 6 or something) I've been taking stuff apart and putting them back together  lol

I am not homeschooled. At my school, everyone has to bring their own laptop.
I am very good at fixing software problems, but not hardware problems.

As for bad tech people, the programming teacher is even worse. I seriously think that the teacher owes me an apology for wasting my time, and everyone else who took the class agrees with me.


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#487 2012-07-26 00:19:50

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jvvg wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

jvvg wrote:


The tech people at my school are terrible. I fix everything myself (and everything goes wrong with all of the computers, Windows and Mac, at the worst possible times).

That's how it is with most tech people in schools I think. I'm homeschooled though, so I use my own computer.  tongue

I fix stuff myself as well. Ever since I can remember (since I was like 6 or something) I've been taking stuff apart and putting them back together  lol

I am not homeschooled. At my school, everyone has to bring their own laptop.
I am very good at fixing software problems, but not hardware problems.

As for bad tech people, the programming teacher is even worse. I seriously think that the teacher owes me an apology for wasting my time, and everyone else who took the class agrees with me.

Most software problems can be fixed with a clean install though. I think the best piece of kit for anyone who has to fix serious software problems would be a bootable USB drive with DS Linux or Puppy linux on it, so that you can access the HDD and rescue anything before clean reinstalling the OS.

With hardware problems, it's easy to replace a part, but it's harder to try and fix something without replacing the part. Your failed hard drive for example.

I know quite a few people who aren't homeschooled, but go to a normal school. The kind of things they're learning are shocking. Visual BASIC, Microsoft databases, gamemaker all outdated or useless stuff.

They should teach Python or something  tongue

I did enjoy ICT classes, because I could do Scratch during schoolwork times  lol


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#488 2012-07-26 00:35:41

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Re: Mac Vs PC

I just got a new theme for my Windows XP installation, along with installing Rainmeter :3

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#489 2012-07-26 00:45:05

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Jackieee wrote:

I just got a new theme for my Windows XP installation, along with installing Rainmeter :3

I like the Zune theme on XP.

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#490 2012-07-26 10:03:13

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Jackieee wrote:

I just got a new theme for my Windows XP installation, along with installing Rainmeter :3

Rainmeter is beautiful. 'Nuff said.


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#491 2012-07-26 10:44:48

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Re: Mac Vs PC

16Skittles wrote:

The micro review!


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Wow that's my second rant post in two days. I'm out, and don't troll my spelling!

I notice you mostly list Apple products in the stuff you should get.
On the go: iPad, if you have 1000$ to spare.
On the go programmer: Get a windows laptop.
Programmer: Windows laptop.
Gamer: Custom Desktop PC.
On the go gamer: You have no chance.
Casual user: Mac.
On the go casual: MacBook.

I leave out the fact that all apple devices are at least 500$ overpriced then windows.


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#492 2012-07-26 11:16:41

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Re: Mac Vs PC

nickbrickmaster wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

The micro review!


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Wow that's my second rant post in two days. I'm out, and don't troll my spelling!

I notice you mostly list Apple products in the stuff you should get.
On the go: iPad, if you have 1000$ to spare.
On the go programmer: Get a windows laptop.
Programmer: Windows laptop.
Gamer: Custom Desktop PC.
On the go gamer: You have no chance.
Casual user: Mac.
On the go casual: MacBook.

I leave out the fact that all apple devices are at least 500$ overpriced then windows.

iPad is only 500 dollars, and is more than capable of basic tasks with good battery life and thin/light.
Programmers who want to do anything relating to OSX or iOS need a Mac, hence my recommendation of them to programmers.
For people on the go, Macs, particularly the 13 inch ones, are highly portable, powerful enough, and great battery life.
For gamers, a powerful windows computer is the only obvious choice, unless you wanted to play games at the obscene retina resolution.


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#493 2012-07-26 12:14:43

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Parachute wrote:

Jackieee wrote:

I just got a new theme for my Windows XP installation, along with installing Rainmeter :3

I like the Zune theme on XP.

That one does look nice. I'm current using this:
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#494 2012-07-26 16:15:26

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

I think all that writing and reading was too much for the old drive  tongue

My tech teacher wasn't very helpful though, he taught me Scratch (although I already knew Scratch), and taught me how to use MS Paint (which I didn't need).

I hope my future tech teachers are better  smile

How do you teach someone how to use MS Paint? It's so ridiculously simple (and also nearly useless no matter what you're doing).

At my school (district, possibly) we all have the entire Adobe Suite thing installed but I've never seen any of them used, except for maybe Photoshop for some of the extra curriculars.


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#495 2012-07-26 18:51:56

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Re: Mac Vs PC

luiysia wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I think all that writing and reading was too much for the old drive  tongue

My tech teacher wasn't very helpful though, he taught me Scratch (although I already knew Scratch), and taught me how to use MS Paint (which I didn't need).

I hope my future tech teachers are better  smile

How do you teach someone how to use MS Paint? It's so ridiculously simple (and also nearly useless no matter what you're doing).

At my school (district, possibly) we all have the entire Adobe Suite thing installed but I've never seen any of them used, except for maybe Photoshop for some of the extra curriculars.

The same way they teach people to use the move 10 steps block  tongue


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#496 2012-07-28 16:26:19

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Well, I've installed Windows 8 on a VM successfully on VMware, finally. (It, and OS X, don't work in VirtualBox on my machine because of hardware issues.) While it is a bit weird, especially to not see the Start button in the bottom left and the whole Metro menu, you get used to it after a while and I found the Music and Photos apps pretty nice. I can't wait to see what using Metro on a tablet would be like, though.

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#497 2012-07-28 16:35:37

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Jackieee wrote:

Well, I've installed Windows 8 on a VM successfully on VMware, finally. (It, and OS X, don't work in VirtualBox on my machine because of hardware issues.) While it is a bit weird, especially to not see the Start button in the bottom left and the whole Metro menu, you get used to it after a while and I found the Music and Photos apps pretty nice. I can't wait to see what using Metro on a tablet would be like, though.

In case you didn't know and we're complaining, if you move your cursor to the bottom left corner the start button shows up. Also, I have determined that Metro is impossible to use effectively without a touchscreen.


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#498 2012-07-28 16:36:14

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i have 4 pcs but mac wins


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#499 2012-07-28 20:39:12

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Re: Mac Vs PC

16Skittles wrote:

Jackieee wrote:

Well, I've installed Windows 8 on a VM successfully on VMware, finally. (It, and OS X, don't work in VirtualBox on my machine because of hardware issues.) While it is a bit weird, especially to not see the Start button in the bottom left and the whole Metro menu, you get used to it after a while and I found the Music and Photos apps pretty nice. I can't wait to see what using Metro on a tablet would be like, though.

In case you didn't know and we're complaining, if you move your cursor to the bottom left corner the start button shows up. Also, I have determined that Metro is impossible to use effectively without a touchscreen.

Oh, I see the start button. Still, I probably won't use that and will just use the key.
And yeah, it would be much nicer with a touchscreen. I do think it's alright for simple applications on a regular screen too. And you don't have to use Metro for everything.

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#500 2012-07-29 01:24:28

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Another thing, how do you move the cursor to a corner on a touchscreen?  tongue


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