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#451 2012-07-25 11:24:38

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Just today I did my first VM installation of Ubuntu in VirtualBox over a Windows host.  big_smile


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#452 2012-07-25 13:35:27

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Is there a way to do a VM installation of the 3DS on a Mac?
What's the best program to use to simulate the 3DS?


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#453 2012-07-25 13:37:44

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Re: Mac Vs PC

16Skittles wrote:

Just today I did my first VM installation of Ubuntu in VirtualBox over a Windows host.  big_smile

I'd like to run some windows programs on my Mac, but I don't want to pay $100 for Windows 7 for a VM.


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#454 2012-07-25 13:41:29

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Couldn't you run a Windows VM on Mac, and then a VM on the Windows VM?


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#455 2012-07-25 13:42:33

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Re: Mac Vs PC

coolhogs wrote:

Is there a way to do a VM installation of the 3DS on a Mac?
What's the best program to use to simulate the 3DS?

You would have to find an emulator, not a VM. Just Google it. You might not be able to play all 3DS games though, as most screens would not be capable of the same 3D as the 3DS.

@StevetheiPad: I want to use some programs from OSX, but I don't want to pay 1,000 dollars for a Mac.  tongue  You only pay a fraction of the price for Windows. Anyway, I'd recommend picking up a used boot disk. You might be able to find XP for a good price (it''s good, but getting old) or Vista for a good price (because it sucked so much), and on any of those there is a cheap upgrade to Windows 8, about the price of an OSX upgrade. If you have a friend with a copy of any of those, you may want to see if you could pay them to burn a Windows 8 disk for you off of that.

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#456 2012-07-25 13:43:27

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Re: Mac Vs PC

coolhogs wrote:

Couldn't you run a Windows VM on Mac, and then a VM on the Windows VM?

Yup.


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#457 2012-07-25 13:50:16

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Re: Mac Vs PC

stevetheipad wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

Just today I did my first VM installation of Ubuntu in VirtualBox over a Windows host.  big_smile

I'd like to run some windows programs on my Mac, but I don't want to pay $100 for Windows 7 for a VM.

Why not use Wine?

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#458 2012-07-25 18:18:34

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Jackieee wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

Just today I did my first VM installation of Ubuntu in VirtualBox over a Windows host.  big_smile

I'd like to run some windows programs on my Mac, but I don't want to pay $100 for Windows 7 for a VM.

Why not use Wine?

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#459 2012-07-25 18:26:04

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Re: Mac Vs PC

maxskywalker wrote:

Jackieee wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:


I'd like to run some windows programs on my Mac, but I don't want to pay $100 for Windows 7 for a VM.

Why not use Wine?

I'd never thought about that I'll have to try it. Is it safe and easy to install and run?


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#460 2012-07-25 18:54:31

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Re: Mac Vs PC

It's definitely not as stable as a VM, and only some programs work. Programs that need Java or .NET are very unlikely to work.

I'd recommend Windows 8, since it's free until at least a year from now, and it's the next version of Windows anyway.

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#461 2012-07-25 18:59:44

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

It's definitely not as stable as a VM, and only some programs work. Programs that need Java or .NET are very unlikely to work.

I'd recommend Windows 8, since it's free until at least a year from now, and it's the next version of Windows anyway.

Mountain Lion is out!  big_smile

I was able to run Windows XP in a VM just fine (and it ran .NET and Java applications well).

And, I really wish Mountain Lion would run on my Macbook.


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#462 2012-07-25 19:02:56

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jvvg_test wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's definitely not as stable as a VM, and only some programs work. Programs that need Java or .NET are very unlikely to work.

I'd recommend Windows 8, since it's free until at least a year from now, and it's the next version of Windows anyway.

Mountain Lion is out!  big_smile

I was able to run Windows XP in a VM just fine (and it ran .NET and Java applications well).

And, I really wish Mountain Lion would run on my Macbook.

Oh, sorry, I misread.

Anyway, yeah, WINE is not great. Only about 1/4 of apps work perfectly, and 1/4 don't work at all.


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#463 2012-07-25 19:09:13

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jvvg_test wrote:

jvvg_test wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

It's definitely not as stable as a VM, and only some programs work. Programs that need Java or .NET are very unlikely to work.

I'd recommend Windows 8, since it's free until at least a year from now, and it's the next version of Windows anyway.

Mountain Lion is out!  big_smile

I was able to run Windows XP in a VM just fine (and it ran .NET and Java applications well).

And, I really wish Mountain Lion would run on my Macbook.

Oh, sorry, I misread.

Anyway, yeah, WINE is not great. Only about 1/4 of apps work perfectly, and 1/4 don't work at all.

It may not be the best, but it still can work really well if you don't have any other option. I'm able to run foobar2000, Chromium, Steam, and Spotify (for testing) on Lubuntu with Wine at either perfect or near perfect.

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#464 2012-07-25 19:26:20

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Re: Mac Vs PC

I've found that Wine works twice better on Linux than it does on Mac OSX. Does Mountain Lion not work on the Macbook? Which generation is it?


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#465 2012-07-25 19:57:31

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Are most Windows 7 programs compatible with 8?


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#466 2012-07-25 20:05:06

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Re: Mac Vs PC

All of them.


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#467 2012-07-25 20:07:31

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

All of them.

Wow, I'll get 8 on a VM for my Mac.


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#468 2012-07-25 20:16:15

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

I've found that Wine works twice better on Linux than it does on Mac OSX.

Ah, okay. Makes sense.

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#469 2012-07-25 20:25:31

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Re: Mac Vs PC

stevetheipad wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

All of them.

Wow, I'll get 8 on a VM for my Mac.

I dual boot with bootcamp, because I find that Windows 8 is so bloated that it runs slow no matter how much resources I give it on a VM. Windows 8 actually looks quite pretty, especially the log in screen, however still looks unrefined and is a pain to use xD


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#470 2012-07-25 20:30:50

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

All of them.

Wow, I'll get 8 on a VM for my Mac.

I dual boot with bootcamp, because I find that Windows 8 is so bloated that it runs slow no matter how much resources I give it on a VM. Windows 8 actually looks quite pretty, especially the log in screen, however still looks unrefined and is a pain to use xD

Does bootcamp take up a ton of space?
Is it easy to install?
How do you back up before downloading boot camp?


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#471 2012-07-25 20:33:42

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Re: Mac Vs PC

stevetheipad wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

Wow, I'll get 8 on a VM for my Mac.

I dual boot with bootcamp, because I find that Windows 8 is so bloated that it runs slow no matter how much resources I give it on a VM. Windows 8 actually looks quite pretty, especially the log in screen, however still looks unrefined and is a pain to use xD

Does bootcamp take up a ton of space?
Is it easy to install?
How do you back up before downloading boot camp?

1. Depends on how much partition space you give it. You have a 500GB drive like I do right? I partitioned it by giving 100GB to Windows, and OSX still has plenty of space, and so does Windows.

2. Sure. It's supported by Apple so it's just as intuitive as any other Mac utility, just use the Bootcamp Utility in /Applications/Utilities/Bootcamp Utility.app.

3. It's recommended to do a complete Time Machine backup before partitioning drives as you can potentially lose data, but all my important data is manually backed up to DVDs and an external HDD so I didn't bother. I've partitioned my drive almost 10 times, no problems ever. Backup if you are still worried, as I guess it might be different on a Macbook which gets moved around a lot more and has a 1.8" drive.

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#472 2012-07-25 20:36:24

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:


I dual boot with bootcamp, because I find that Windows 8 is so bloated that it runs slow no matter how much resources I give it on a VM. Windows 8 actually looks quite pretty, especially the log in screen, however still looks unrefined and is a pain to use xD

Does bootcamp take up a ton of space?
Is it easy to install?
How do you back up before downloading boot camp?

1. Depends on how much partition space you give it. You have a 500GB drive like I do right? I partitioned it by giving 100GB to Windows, and OSX still has plenty of space, and so does Windows.

2. Sure. It's supported by Apple so it's just as intuitive as any other Mac utility, just use the Bootcamp Utility in /Applications/Utilities/Bootcamp Utility.app.

1. Nope, 320GB, so maybe I'll give Windows 75GB.

2. How do you back up before downloading boot camp?


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#473 2012-07-25 20:40:41

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Re: Mac Vs PC

See my edit.


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#474 2012-07-25 21:00:30

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

See my edit.

I don't even back up my Mac. I probably should, though. Do you or does anyone else know of a cheap but good backup solution?


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#475 2012-07-25 21:10:08

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Re: Mac Vs PC

stevetheipad wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

See my edit.

I don't even back up my Mac. I probably should, though. Do you or does anyone else know of a cheap but good backup solution?

I don't have anything on my Mac that requires backup other than my photos, so what I do is I backup them up to my HDD as soon as I download them to my Mac, and then I import them into iPhoto. I also burn the photos to DVDs.

EDIT: 1TB Hard Drives are very cheap these days, you can pick them up for under $100 if you know where to look. They're usually USB 2.0 or 3.0, and firewire drives are much more expensive.

Thunderbolt drives are horrendously expensive. And 75GB is plenty for Windows btw.

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