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#226 2012-06-17 00:00:15

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Regarding the price difference between Macs and PCs, please read my post a few pages back.


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#227 2012-06-17 08:07:19

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

Well, for a small business, I would recommend a Mac because of all the better tools and apps and things, but for big businesses, PCs are the way to go because they are cheaper and you can make them look boring by changing their theme to Windows Classic  tongue

And as for the MacDefender malware (and no Mac doesn't have viruses, only other types of malware) you can remove it simply by dragging the app to trash and emptying trash. Nothing like a real malware infection like you might get on a PC.

You mean this one, jj?

May I ask what "better tools" there are for Macs?

And to bring another point back, to the people who think the interface of the OS is everything:

The OS styling is only seen until you start an app, then the interface only involves the programming of the app. Also, consider Kde vs Lxde for Linux. Kde looks better, but Lxde has better preformance.


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#228 2012-06-17 08:34:13

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Re: Mac Vs PC

777w wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

jvvg wrote:


Yeah. Remember my reason that Macs don't get as much malware a while back? If not, I'll include it here.
http://i.imgur.com/RaP9i.jpg
That is a market share chart.
As you can see, Windows has a significant portion of it.
If you wrote a virus, would you rather attack about 85% of people or 6% of people? Think about it.

WAHOOOOOO!!!!!! keep up the good work, Apple!

i cant tell if thats sarcastic or just silly

Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.


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#229 2012-06-17 08:38:40

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Re: Mac Vs PC

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

777w wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:


WAHOOOOOO!!!!!! keep up the good work, Apple!

i cant tell if thats sarcastic or just silly

Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.

but the graph shows that less people use apple products than they do windows which isnt very good work so much as it it lucky for the people who are apple users

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#230 2012-06-17 11:57:20

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Re: Mac Vs PC

777w wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

777w wrote:

i cant tell if thats sarcastic or just silly

Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.

but the graph shows that less people use apple products than they do windows which isnt very good work so much as it it lucky for the people who are apple users

Nice way oh phrasing it.


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#231 2012-06-17 13:03:01

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Re: Mac Vs PC

16Skittles wrote:

The OS styling is only seen until you start an app, then the interface only involves the programming of the app. Also, consider Kde vs Lxde for Linux. Kde looks better, but Lxde has better preformance.

LXDE looks better to me, as well, so no contest


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#232 2012-06-17 13:16:17

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Re: Mac Vs PC

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

777w wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:


WAHOOOOOO!!!!!! keep up the good work, Apple!

i cant tell if thats sarcastic or just silly

Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.

lolwut? i'm not. i'm kinda mad that iOS 5 will not be able to run on my iPad 1. If you ask me, Apple is way worse with updates than Microsoft. Have fun pointlessly burning your money.

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#233 2012-06-17 13:32:28

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Re: Mac Vs PC

conbot wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

777w wrote:


i cant tell if thats sarcastic or just silly

Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.

lolwut? i'm not. i'm kinda mad that iOS 5 will not be able to run on my iPad 1. If you ask me, Apple is way worse with updates than Microsoft. Have fun pointlessly burning your money.

tongue
I don't have an iPad, and my MacBook is from 2006.
I get my computers from people who need to get rid of their old ones, so I'm benefiting of them burning their money on upgrading their Apple stuff to the latest, while mine works just as well and I got it for free.


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#234 2012-06-17 13:36:39

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Re: Mac Vs PC

Update... Microsoft has announced a partnership with Canonical, the makers of Ubuntu. OK, awkward. Partnering with the enemy. I think I should switch to another distro before the fight begins...

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#235 2012-06-17 13:39:23

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Re: Mac Vs PC

conbot wrote:

Update... Microsoft has announced a partnership with Canonical, the makers of Ubuntu. OK, awkward. Partnering with the enemy. I think I should switch to another distro before the fight begins...

...they're not enemies, they just make OSes and recognise that different people like them for different things.


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#236 2012-06-17 13:39:57

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jvvg wrote:

conbot wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:


Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.

lolwut? i'm not. i'm kinda mad that iOS 5 will not be able to run on my iPad 1. If you ask me, Apple is way worse with updates than Microsoft. Have fun pointlessly burning your money.

tongue
I don't have an iPad, and my MacBook is from 2006.
I get my computers from people who need to get rid of their old ones, so I'm benefiting of them burning their money on upgrading their Apple stuff to the latest, while mine works just as well and I got it for free.

Oh, a little heads up, your site is full of backdoors. I'd recommend you fix them.

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#237 2012-06-17 13:46:09

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jvvg wrote:

conbot wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:


Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.

lolwut? i'm not. i'm kinda mad that iOS 5 will not be able to run on my iPad 1. If you ask me, Apple is way worse with updates than Microsoft. Have fun pointlessly burning your money.

tongue
I don't have an iPad, and my MacBook is from 2006.
I get my computers from people who need to get rid of their old ones, so I'm benefiting of them burning their money on upgrading their Apple stuff to the latest, while mine works just as well and I got it for free.

You're using Windows as your server host -_- That's the problem.

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#238 2012-06-17 14:03:28

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Re: Mac Vs PC

conbot wrote:

jvvg wrote:

conbot wrote:


lolwut? i'm not. i'm kinda mad that iOS 5 will not be able to run on my iPad 1. If you ask me, Apple is way worse with updates than Microsoft. Have fun pointlessly burning your money.

tongue
I don't have an iPad, and my MacBook is from 2006.
I get my computers from people who need to get rid of their old ones, so I'm benefiting of them burning their money on upgrading their Apple stuff to the latest, while mine works just as well and I got it for free.

You're using Windows as your server host -_- That's the problem.

I actually use Linux for my server.


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#239 2012-06-17 14:16:29

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jvvg wrote:

conbot wrote:

jvvg wrote:


tongue
I don't have an iPad, and my MacBook is from 2006.
I get my computers from people who need to get rid of their old ones, so I'm benefiting of them burning their money on upgrading their Apple stuff to the latest, while mine works just as well and I got it for free.

You're using Windows as your server host -_- That's the problem.

I actually use Linux for my server.

Ah, it must be my version of nikto.

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#240 2012-06-17 16:48:25

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Re: Mac Vs PC

conbot wrote:

jvvg wrote:

conbot wrote:


You're using Windows as your server host -_- That's the problem.

I actually use Linux for my server.

Ah, it must be my version of nikto.

What's that? I use Ubuntu with a copy of Apache.


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#241 2012-06-17 18:59:29

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Re: Mac Vs PC

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Well, for a small business, I would recommend a Mac because of all the better tools and apps and things, but for big businesses, PCs are the way to go because they are cheaper and you can make them look boring by changing their theme to Windows Classic  tongue

And as for the MacDefender malware (and no Mac doesn't have viruses, only other types of malware) you can remove it simply by dragging the app to trash and emptying trash. Nothing like a real malware infection like you might get on a PC.

You mean this one, jj?

May I ask what "better tools" there are for Macs?

And to bring another point back, to the people who think the interface of the OS is everything:

The OS styling is only seen until you start an app, then the interface only involves the programming of the app. Also, consider Kde vs Lxde for Linux. Kde looks better, but Lxde has better preformance.

Better tools? iLife, iWork, Safari, Mail, Calendar all sorts of things and well-built third-party apps as well.

Mac is fast, responsive and looks good as well  tongue


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#242 2012-06-17 19:19:16

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Re: Mac Vs PC

conbot wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

777w wrote:


i cant tell if thats sarcastic or just silly

Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.

lolwut? i'm not. i'm kinda mad that iOS 5 will not be able to run on my iPad 1. If you ask me, Apple is way worse with updates than Microsoft. Have fun pointlessly burning your money.

I agree, I don't want to have to get an iPad 3 or iPhone 4s because they won't put Siri on the iPod Touch 4g.


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#243 2012-06-17 19:21:22

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Re: Mac Vs PC

777w wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

777w wrote:


i cant tell if thats sarcastic or just silly

Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.

but the graph shows that less people use apple products than they do windows which isnt very good work so much as it it lucky for the people who are apple users

Oh. I thought that chart was about the amount of malware things get.


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#244 2012-06-17 19:31:18

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Re: Mac Vs PC

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

777w wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:


Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.

but the graph shows that less people use apple products than they do windows which isnt very good work so much as it it lucky for the people who are apple users

Oh. I thought that chart was about the amount of malware things get.

lolno


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#245 2012-06-17 19:50:56

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jvvg wrote:

conbot wrote:

jvvg wrote:


I actually use Linux for my server.

Ah, it must be my version of nikto.

What's that? I use Ubuntu with a copy of Apache.

Don't use apache D: It's almost as insecure as IIS. Use lighttpd, it's light, and not bloated. That means less errors and vulnerabilities. It also supports CGI in directories other than /cgi-bin.

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#246 2012-06-17 19:50:58

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Re: Mac Vs PC

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:

777w wrote:

BOBBYBOB3 wrote:


Neither. It's happy, and feeling good about being an apple user.

but the graph shows that less people use apple products than they do windows which isnt very good work so much as it it lucky for the people who are apple users

Oh. I thought that chart was about the amount of malware things get.

look at the chart more slowly next time, the title said something like "market share" not "malware whatever"

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#247 2012-06-17 21:51:42

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Re: Mac Vs PC

conbot wrote:

jvvg wrote:

conbot wrote:


Ah, it must be my version of nikto.

What's that? I use Ubuntu with a copy of Apache.

Don't use apache D: It's almost as insecure as IIS. Use lighttpd, it's light, and not bloated. That means less errors and vulnerabilities. It also supports CGI in directories other than /cgi-bin.

I'll check it out, although most websites use Apache and I'm pretty sure it's more secure than you think  tongue


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#248 2012-06-17 22:45:05

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Re: Mac Vs PC

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Well, for a small business, I would recommend a Mac because of all the better tools and apps and things, but for big businesses, PCs are the way to go because they are cheaper and you can make them look boring by changing their theme to Windows Classic  tongue

And as for the MacDefender malware (and no Mac doesn't have viruses, only other types of malware) you can remove it simply by dragging the app to trash and emptying trash. Nothing like a real malware infection like you might get on a PC.

You mean this one, jj?

May I ask what "better tools" there are for Macs?

And to bring another point back, to the people who think the interface of the OS is everything:

The OS styling is only seen until you start an app, then the interface only involves the programming of the app. Also, consider Kde vs Lxde for Linux. Kde looks better, but Lxde has better preformance.

Better tools? iLife, iWork, Safari, Mail, Calendar all sorts of things and well-built third-party apps as well.

Mac is fast, responsive and looks good as well  tongue

Let's see... I will try to use open source software as much as possible to offer a replacement to each of those programs.

iLife:

GarageBand: LMMS is the only thing I can think of, this is a neat product I will admit.

iPhoto: The GIMP, PDN on Windows

iMovie: Wax 2.0, Windows Live Movie Maker

iDVD: I haven't ever used something like this, so I can't really tell.

iWeb: this seems like a program for n00bs. Replacement is a text editor, available on any OS.



iWork:

Microsoft Office, OpenOffice, LibreOffice.


Safari: Yuck, use FireFox or Chromium, both open source.

Mail: Thunderbird, once again open source. (You may be able to tell I think Mozilla is boss)

Calendar: No real replacement can be had due to the fact that it can sync over iCloud to iOS devices.


As far as well built apps go, there are tons of open source, cross platform apps that are some of the best in the business. Except maybe Adobe CS, those are great too :3


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#249 2012-06-17 22:54:48

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Re: Mac Vs PC

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:


You mean this one, jj?

May I ask what "better tools" there are for Macs?

And to bring another point back, to the people who think the interface of the OS is everything:

The OS styling is only seen until you start an app, then the interface only involves the programming of the app. Also, consider Kde vs Lxde for Linux. Kde looks better, but Lxde has better preformance.

Better tools? iLife, iWork, Safari, Mail, Calendar all sorts of things and well-built third-party apps as well.

Mac is fast, responsive and looks good as well  tongue

Let's see... I will try to use open source software as much as possible to offer a replacement to each of those programs.

iLife:

GarageBand: LMMS is the only thing I can think of, this is a neat product I will admit.

iPhoto: The GIMP, PDN on Windows

iMovie: Wax 2.0, Windows Live Movie Maker

iDVD: I haven't ever used something like this, so I can't really tell.

iWeb: this seems like a program for n00bs. Replacement is a text editor, available on any OS.



iWork:

Microsoft Office, OpenOffice, LibreOffice.


Safari: Yuck, use FireFox or Chromium, both open source.

Mail: Thunderbird, once again open source. (You may be able to tell I think Mozilla is boss)

Calendar: No real replacement can be had due to the fact that it can sync over iCloud to iOS devices.


As far as well built apps go, there are tons of open source, cross platform apps that are some of the best in the business. Except maybe Adobe CS, those are great too :3

Yeah, open-source is the way to go.
And yes, I agree Safari is terrible. Use Chrome.


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#250 2012-06-17 23:33:13

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Re: Mac Vs PC

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:


You mean this one, jj?

May I ask what "better tools" there are for Macs?

And to bring another point back, to the people who think the interface of the OS is everything:

The OS styling is only seen until you start an app, then the interface only involves the programming of the app. Also, consider Kde vs Lxde for Linux. Kde looks better, but Lxde has better preformance.

Better tools? iLife, iWork, Safari, Mail, Calendar all sorts of things and well-built third-party apps as well.

Mac is fast, responsive and looks good as well  tongue

Calendar: No real replacement can be had due to the fact that it can sync over iCloud to iOS devices.

Google has a calendar feature and Google functions on a cloud with Android (open-source) based mobile devices.


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