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#76 2012-05-21 14:59:28

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

You could try Obix or Lua, and I would recommend Lua.

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#77 2012-05-21 15:03:53

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

Are they like the scratch forum's scratchblock BBcode?


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#78 2012-05-21 16:25:58

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

schusteralex2 wrote:

I want to learn JavaScript, all I know right now is HTML and Scratch, is there anything else I need to know before I start  hmm

(BTW, HTML is incredibly easy, I learned it in an hour)

HTML is really all you need to know before attempting to learn Javascript.  Another language you might want to learn (if you want to make websites) is PHP, which, among other things, lets you manipulate databases.  You might want to also want to learn CSS (I never really learned CSS well at all, but it is still worth knowing).



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OK, schusteralex2, how do you make a text document a website?

Save it with as a ".html".


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#79 2012-05-21 17:52:35

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No how do you open the website that you created.


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#80 2012-05-21 18:05:58

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

coolhogs wrote:

No how do you open the website that you created.

Double click on the HTML file and it should open with your web browser.


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#81 2012-05-21 18:48:43

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

veggieman001 wrote:

coolhogs wrote:

No how do you open the website that you created.

Double click on the HTML file and it should open with your web browser.

That said, depending on the browser, this may simply open the homepage.  Double clicking it again (or dragging the file into the window) should open it if this is the case.


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#82 2012-05-22 09:46:25

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

Wow. GIYBF man.

Time to clear up a few things:

For most programming languages, there is no one "download." there are different compilers, which do nothing but compile.  From there you'll want an IDE with syntax highlighting.

As far as where to start, I think that JustBasic will suit your needs well. It isn't too powerful but is still a good place to start with text based programming.

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#83 2012-05-23 00:51:29

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

MoreGamesNow wrote:

schusteralex2 wrote:

I want to learn JavaScript, all I know right now is HTML and Scratch, is there anything else I need to know before I start  hmm

(BTW, HTML is incredibly easy, I learned it in an hour)

HTML is really all you need to know before attempting to learn Javascript.  Another language you might want to learn (if you want to make websites) is PHP, which, among other things, lets you manipulate databases.  You might want to also want to learn CSS (I never really learned CSS well at all, but it is still worth knowing).



coolhogs wrote:

OK, schusteralex2, how do you make a text document a website?

Save it with as a ".html".

Okay for all those who wanna learn HTML JS CSS the best option is to use

http://jsfiddle.net

its pretty straight forward and allows a lot of things

secondly html and js and CSS are all easy but they are like chess

an hour to learn but a lifetime to master ;-) {though thats the same with all real programming langauge}

Also you should join http://stackoverflow.com ask questions regarding html & js there and feel free to ask dont be shy there are lots of programmers there who are straight in industry which will be helping you to learn , once you get 20+ rep there you can also interact with them in realtime :-) .


Resource for HTML and Javascript and CSS is the single and awesome
Mozilla Developer Network -  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/

use it , its really awesome its well written and up to the standards and updated very rapidly as the technology changes :-)

One last tip with
{ javascript :' be creative :-) ' ,
   HTML : ' be sementic ' ,
   CSS : ' be artistic '
}


by the way as you are on MAC @coolhogs you have the garuntee cause of safari and chrome / firefox that you will be able to take the best fun out of html :-)

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#84 2012-05-23 16:13:03

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

SJRCS_011 wrote:

luiysia wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Is there any language that is like scratch, except maybe a little harder?

BYOB. It's basically a mod of Scratch that lets you make your own blocks and I think has some more advanced concepts. The layout is almost identical.

Then, if you think that is too easy, try Panther.  After that, you'll probably end up doing VB.NET, Java, Python, PHP, JS, or one of the C families.  All depends on what type of programming you want to do
But yeah, try BYOB, bu there aren't many scratch-related languages ou t there.

Byob is easy peasy for me  smile


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#85 2012-05-25 08:54:04

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

stickdude123 wrote:

SJRCS_011 wrote:

luiysia wrote:

BYOB. It's basically a mod of Scratch that lets you make your own blocks and I think has some more advanced concepts. The layout is almost identical.

Then, if you think that is too easy, try Panther.  After that, you'll probably end up doing VB.NET, Java, Python, PHP, JS, or one of the C families.  All depends on what type of programming you want to do
But yeah, try BYOB, bu there aren't many scratch-related languages ou t there.

Byob is easy peasy for me  smile

Thats with nearly every programming language , when you understand them they all become easy peasy :-)

I find nearly all programming languages easy peasy unless untill it falls up upon debugging a source code containing a thousand lines in C++ .. >_< and thats a runtime error :-)

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#86 2012-05-25 09:00:56

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

stickdude123 wrote:

SJRCS_011 wrote:

luiysia wrote:


BYOB. It's basically a mod of Scratch that lets you make your own blocks and I think has some more advanced concepts. The layout is almost identical.

Then, if you think that is too easy, try Panther.  After that, you'll probably end up doing VB.NET, Java, Python, PHP, JS, or one of the C families.  All depends on what type of programming you want to do
But yeah, try BYOB, bu there aren't many scratch-related languages ou t there.

Byob is easy peasy for me  smile

I know, I wan't to try something a little harder.


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#87 2012-05-25 09:10:27

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

Listen. It's a little hard, but Python is the way to go.


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#88 2012-05-25 09:33:58

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

SciTecCf wrote:

Listen. It's a little hard, but Python is the way to go.

I can' download python--I'm not the administrator of this computer.


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#89 2012-05-25 10:18:53

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SciTecCf wrote:

Listen. It's a little hard, but Python is the way to go.

But python is slow  sad  and javascript [esp node.js ] is covering it up morever you can write native modules for node.js [or use what others have made] .. ??


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#90 2012-05-25 11:37:00

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

fanofcena wrote:

SciTecCf wrote:

Listen. It's a little hard, but Python is the way to go.

But python is slow  sad  and javascript [esp node.js ] is covering it up morever you can write native modules for node.js [or use what others have made] .. ??

if python is slow i don't want to know what javascript is  tongue

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#91 2012-05-25 18:17:08

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

coolscruff wrote:

coolhogs wrote:

coolscruff wrote:

You might be intrested in learning how to make apps? It takes a lot of patience to get the whole thing on to you computer at first but then it goes pretty fast. If you are interested I shall give you the link.

Ok, I'm interested.

Oh and you need Java 1.6. here is the website: http://beta.appinventor.mit.edu
you can down load it at this page: http://beta.appinventor.mit.edu/learn/setupwindows.html

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#92 2012-05-26 03:04:34

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

coolscruff wrote:

coolscruff wrote:

coolhogs wrote:


Ok, I'm interested.

Oh and you need Java 1.6. here is the website: http://beta.appinventor.mit.edu
you can down load it at this page: http://beta.appinventor.mit.edu/learn/setupwindows.html

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#93 2012-05-26 13:33:16

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

roijac wrote:

fanofcena wrote:

SciTecCf wrote:

Listen. It's a little hard, but Python is the way to go.

But python is slow  sad  and javascript [esp node.js ] is covering it up morever you can write native modules for node.js [or use what others have made] .. ??

if python is slow i don't want to know what javascript is  tongue

In that case you should see this,
Benchmarks showing js > python  tongue .
There are many more  tongue  and since the benchmark was made in these 2 years V8 has got even more faster  tongue  soo ... js is actually faster then python ;-) in a lot of cases :-) + JS has dual benifits learn it once and use it in browser , iOS , Android , Native wherever you want  tongue

I know nearly all of the languages in the benchmark [except of java]
and personally i like JavaScript > C++ > Python

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#94 2012-05-26 14:23:40

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

fanofcena wrote:

roijac wrote:

fanofcena wrote:


But python is slow  sad  and javascript [esp node.js ] is covering it up morever you can write native modules for node.js [or use what others have made] .. ??

if python is slow i don't want to know what javascript is  tongue

In that case you should see this,
Benchmarks showing js > python  tongue .
There are many more  tongue  and since the benchmark was made in these 2 years V8 has got even more faster  tongue  soo ... js is actually faster then python ;-) in a lot of cases :-) + JS has dual benifits learn it once and use it in browser , iOS , Android , Native wherever you want  tongue

I know nearly all of the languages in the benchmark [except of java]
and personally i like JavaScript > C++ > Python

Article wrote:

The benchmarks here do not try to be complete, as they are showing the performance of the languages in one aspect, and mainly: loops, arrays with numbers, basic math operations.

JS is no doubt impressive, but this is just testing basic number crunching. Plus, that speed is dependent on the engine that's running it. The V8 engine compiles JS to lower-level code, so this is kind of an apples-oranges comparison anyway.  wink

In the context of the original question, the language just needs to be a good next-step in programming. Personally, I think Python is a great bridge.  smile


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#95 2012-05-26 14:36:08

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

Articel wrote:

The benchmarks here do not try to be complete, as they are showing the performance of the languages in one aspect, and mainly: loops, arrays with numbers, basic math operations.

The programmer of the benchmarks doesn't know the languages very good.
His Java PrimeNumbersGenerator wasn't very optimized: I got the code 5 times faster...
The results aren't fair... You shouldn't trust them.

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#96 2012-05-26 17:07:38

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

This has turned into a discussion about programming language. I will ask a mod to move it into another thread called, "Programming Language Discussion" All I am saying, what is the most basic-but fast text-based programming language?

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#97 2012-05-26 17:13:40

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

IDK...
French

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#98 2012-05-26 17:16:13

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

French? XD


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#99 2012-05-26 17:19:28

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IDK!?!?!?!?!   lol

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#100 2012-05-26 17:24:37

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Re: Programming Languages Discussion

Crystlemoon24 wrote:

IDK!?!?!?!?!   lol

french isnt as much a programming language as it is a spoken language :P

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