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#1 2012-05-15 02:50:36

roijac
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private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

so, a lot of people are really excited about the upcoming cloud variables in scratch 2.0, and there is a discussion here about making a private chat using hash algorithms.
http://i.imgur.com/7JNQz.jpg
so i made a simple hash algorithm of my own, and now i'm looking for some beta testers. If you want to participate, go to my project and hash your password, then post it here. i promise i didn't build it so i can find it out, BUT IT SURELY ISN'T SECURE ENOUGH FOR REAL LIFE PASSWORDS, so choose one you don't usually use.

EDIT
fixed online issues, but online is still different than offline, so use flash player and not 1.4  smile
this is because of rounding and floating points, can't really do anything about it :S

Last edited by roijac (2012-05-15 11:17:24)

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#2 2012-05-15 03:20:33

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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

roijac wrote:

...BUT IT SURELY ISN'T SECURE ENOUGH FOR REAL LIFE PASSWORDS, so choose one you don't usually use.

Darn, and there was me hoping you'd hashed your actual password...  tongue


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#3 2012-05-15 03:26:23

slayerrobe7
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

this isn't working for me


!!!When it comes to Scratch2.0 I am totally like freaking out!!!

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#4 2012-05-15 08:06:51

roijac
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

blob8108 wrote:

roijac wrote:

...BUT IT SURELY ISN'T SECURE ENOUGH FOR REAL LIFE PASSWORDS, so choose one you don't usually use.

Darn, and there was me hoping you'd hashed your actual password...  tongue

yeah, of course, so you can brute force it...
NOPE

slayerrobe7 wrote:

this isn't working for me

what did you try to do?
you have to type 'signup', then your username, then your password. You'll then see the hash of your password. copy-paste it here so i can enter you to the beta version on the 17th  smile

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#5 2012-05-15 09:25:38

Magnie
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

I believe there will be a block that says which Scratch user is viewing the project, so you wouldn't really need any hash algorithms. Just need to check the usernames to see if they are the only ones allowed to chat.

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#6 2012-05-15 09:46:20

roijac
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

even better  big_smile

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#7 2012-05-15 09:54:46

scimonster
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

I hashed to this: 5614293778228025272034840052097943230189510160467388529900469116222707557447160737151187558933350735584720321843038164227771292329353805522300797217437214841073426091473739965514661763860241672571731554235173914434087401666126798688718984161082959151137042116790475556675220871097080484833750909814743586098803
Figure it out?  tongue

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#8 2012-05-15 10:01:03

veggieman001
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

scimonster wrote:

I hashed to this: 5614293778228025272034840052097943230189510160467388529900469116222707557447160737151187558933350735584720321843038164227771292329353805522300797217437214841073426091473739965514661763860241672571731554235173914434087401666126798688718984161082959151137042116790475556675220871097080484833750909814743586098803
Figure it out?  tongue

Hmm, that appears to be what I got and also what the default is.


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#9 2012-05-15 10:02:28

shiguy101
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

here is mine.
56142937782280252720348400520979432301895101604673885299004691162227075574471607371
51187558933350735584720321843038164227771292329353805522300797217437214841073426091
47373996551466176386024167257173155423517391443408740166612679868871898416108295915
1137042116790475556675220871097080484833750909814743586098803

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#10 2012-05-15 10:06:54

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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

Wow it's almost like everyone's is the same


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#11 2012-05-15 10:24:25

roijac
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

yeah, i know it's broken  hmm

EDIT: seems like i did broadcast instead of broadcast and wait  roll
so yeah, it came always the same pretty much.
I also updated the hash algorithm a bit, so try to crack it  big_smile
(and post your hashed passwords, of course  tongue )

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#12 2012-05-15 10:56:16

roijac
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

still broken online because of the E's  hmm

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#13 2012-05-15 11:05:28

muppetds
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

use the flash player?


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#14 2012-05-15 11:14:36

LS97
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

roijac wrote:

still broken online because of the E's  hmm

Use the join block maybe?

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#15 2012-05-15 11:15:47

roijac
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

nope, it's because numbers are too big and are being converted into sci notation
i fixed it, but the algorithm still yields different results online/offline
so make sure to use the flash player, that's what my project will use  smile

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#16 2012-05-15 11:22:43

LS97
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

roijac wrote:

nope, it's because numbers are too big and are being converted into sci notation
i fixed it, but the algorithm still yields different results online/offline
so make sure to use the flash player, that's what my project will use  smile

I know why it converts it to scientific notation. However, since the join block converts numbers to strings, you could have used that too to display the hash  smile

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#17 2012-05-15 11:24:33

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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

LS97 wrote:

However, since the join block converts numbers to strings, you could have used that too to display the hash  smile

I think it is using join...  tongue


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#18 2012-05-15 11:25:24

roijac
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

blob8108 wrote:

LS97 wrote:

However, since the join block converts numbers to strings, you could have used that too to display the hash  smile

I think it is using join...  tongue

it is, indeed  smile
come on, post your hashes  big_smile

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#19 2012-05-15 12:30:54

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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

mine is

2230263800153326420741920002320168016965104618817226642392296


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#20 2012-05-15 14:26:31

roijac
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

muppetds wrote:

mine is

2230263800153326420741920002320168016965104618817226642392296

k, thanks!

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#21 2012-05-15 21:41:50

slayerrobe7
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

2279421168145929230681194565545885644158772815771822540322972290
p.s. i found out ur pass

Last edited by slayerrobe7 (2012-05-15 21:47:21)


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#22 2012-05-15 22:16:12

technoboy10
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

I'm going to use this for my social game (Similar to Webkinz/Club Penguin). Nice job on the scripts! BTW, what does 'salted' mean in the program?

Last edited by technoboy10 (2012-05-15 22:17:27)


So long, 1.4.
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#23 2012-05-15 23:02:39

meowmeow55
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

221640560133340811602024439661296912222944276328813601104


Yawn.

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#24 2012-05-15 23:09:19

shiguy101
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

shiguy101 wrote:

here is mine.
56142937782280252720348400520979432301895101604673885299004691162227075574471607371
51187558933350735584720321843038164227771292329353805522300797217437214841073426091
47373996551466176386024167257173155423517391443408740166612679868871898416108295915
1137042116790475556675220871097080484833750909814743586098803

do i need to redo mine?

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#25 2012-05-16 01:12:59

trinary
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Re: private chat using 2.0 cloud vars

technoboy10 wrote:

I'm going to use this for my social game (Similar to Webkinz/Club Penguin). Nice job on the scripts! BTW, what does 'salted' mean in the program?

Salt.


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