Scratch

TorbyFork234 wrote:

I support the whole star rating thing.

Me too. I don't get why the Scratch team said no. Have they tried it?

cbcollab wrote:

I'm not agreeing with the scratch team, but i think why they said no is because of how it would be like having a "dislike" button.  People would get upset if their projects had low star ratings and it would make them look bad.

But at least they have a rating! And how does the Scratch team know that's going to happen?

Haiming wrote:

TorbyFork234 wrote:

I support the whole star rating thing.

Me too. I don't get why the Scratch team said no. Have they tried it?

They haven't tried it, but enough people have not supported it when people suggested it then. It's even in "READ THIS BEFORE SUGGESTING ANYTHING".
Why the ST has said No:
• People would use it as a sort of 'currency'. "if you make me a signature I'll rate 5 stars on 3 of your projects!" "I will make you a sprite if you rate 5 on two of my projects!" etc.
• New Scratchers might feel down on themselves if the worked for 5 hours on something and someone rated it a 1.
• As you stated in the original post how only scratchers can rate and get ratings on their project, the forums and the main website are totally different. Heck, you can even get to the forums sometimes when the main site is down! I know there are a lot of users who focus just on making projects, rather than posting in the forums.
• The "Questions about Scratch" would be filled with "how do I rate?" "Why do some people have those star things but I don't????" by New Scratchers (see above ^^^^^)
• If someone disliked a particular Scratcher, they could rate 1 on all of their projects so that the average rating would be lower, therefore making the user look bad, but with the system we have now, the only thing that they can do is make a mean comment, and the project owner could just delete that.

I think, in order to get an honest opinion, there should be a system that averages out the loveits per view. For example, a project with 10 loveits and 10 views would have an average of one loveit for each view. Or, you can have a top favorited category on the frontpage, because favorites are often given more thought than loveits.

Last edited by Mokat (2012-07-05 12:37:48)

Bump

mythbusteranimator wrote:

I like the idea.

Thanks!

cbcollab wrote:

I'm not agreeing with the scratch team, but i think why they said no is because of how it would be like having a "dislike" button.  People would get upset if their projects had low star ratings and it would make them look bad.

I agree with the scratch team because the low star ratings might make people quit instead of improve. Quitting is bad since every scratchr has lots of potential.

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You could always add it to a total amount, such as
P1: 1/5
P2:3/5
Total:4

Some new Scratchers could interpret a low rating negatively.

What if you could enable and disable star ratings? That way people who wanted star ratings could have them, and the people who don't want dislikes could have normal love-its?

Edit: Gee, I guess with cloud data you could build your own star rating system right into the project.

But I do agree with ManaUser, systems that allow "dislikes" are always bad news. When I used youtube, some people would go through and add dislikes to all your videos and make you feel and look bad. But then again, youtube is just full of scum anyways.

Last edited by Wes64 (2012-06-19 03:27:13)

ilackoriginality wrote:

Hello,

While this idea has been criticized and declined before, I’d like to say that I believe a 1-5 star rating system (with modifications) might be a good addition to the site. I’ll attempt to address some of the positive things it might bring, as well as address some of the criticisms it has faced.

To begin, I acknowledge that the site has a very wide range of skill level, and projects can range from a Scratch Cat on a blank screen to really complicated games/gadgets. For this reason, ratings may not be appropriate for tests. And as it’s been said before, young Scratchers can easily get discouraged by low ratings. For this reason, I’d like to suggest that maybe the 5-star rating system could be optional.

However, I am aware that even if it is made optional that there is a chance that authors might still be discouraged by low ratings. If the rating is dignified by a mean comment, then the author can just delete and/or flag the comment, and many don’t consider “this sucks” or “this is lame” to be valid opinions at all.

If an author is looking to constantly improve, but cannot accurately gauge how his projects are received, then the rating system might come in handy. While the author can also rely on comments, doing so might prove arbitrary as comments such as “this is good” and “this is great” can mean different things, and the author might interpret it differently than the person who initially wrote the comment would.

Low ratings, while it may discourage some, may encourage others to make better projects that would score higher. For the people who get discouraged, it could always be optional.

I also agree with the suggestion that some others have made that projects should only be rated if they have a certain amount of views – a project with a 1-star rating but 1 view can give people the wrong impression.

And while love-its and favoriters can still be checked for specific users, votes can be anonymous so that the voters’ opinions are safe, and so the author doesn’t hunt down everybody who voted 1 or 2.

I’d also like to address the concern that some people might use it as a ‘currency.’ I think using it as a ‘currency’ should be prohibited in the hypothetical situation that a rating system ever gets implemented, as it isn’t too hard to tell who is violating this rule.

I hope you take these points into consideration. Thank you.

You do not lack originality. Well written speech, and I've seen some things that I haven't noticed before. Thank you.