Scratch

Since Scratch is designed for beginning programmers and children (some of them very young), it's not surprising that a number of the projects are quite simple.  And that's a good thing - we want people to feel free to learn and explore without reservation.  Even the simple remix projects like "Add yourself..." help people learn to use the computer and share their ideas with like-minded people.

This is not to say that we don't also see some very complex and well-crafted projects on the site as well - but they are always going to be outnumbered by the beginners. 

Please do not confuse the goals of the project:  Scratch is not "supposed to be about making games and putting hard work into them".  Scratch is for letting people express their creativity on the computer with all kinds of projects:  Art projects, stories, coloring contests, simulations, math projects, games, pet pictures, etc.  Scratch is a big place and hosts a large variety of different interests.  I suggest you find Scratchers with similar interests and have fun with them and worry less about what the front page is showing 

Now, since this doesn't really seem to be a Question about Scratch, I'm moving it to Suggestions.

Unite wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

Since Scratch is designed for beginning programmers and children (some of them very young), it's not surprising that a number of the projects are quite simple.  And that's a good thing - we want people to feel free to learn and explore without reservation.  Even the simple remix projects like "Add yourself..." help people learn to use the computer and share their ideas with like-minded people.

This is not to say that we don't also see some very complex and well-crafted projects on the site as well - but they are always going to be outnumbered by the beginners. 

Please do not confuse the goals of the project:  Scratch is not "supposed to be about making games and putting hard work into them".  Scratch is for letting people express their creativity on the computer with all kinds of projects:  Art projects, stories, coloring contests, simulations, math projects, games, pet pictures, etc.  Scratch is a big place and hosts a large variety of different interests.  I suggest you find Scratchers with similar interests and have fun with them and worry less about what the front page is showing 

Now, since this doesn't really seem to be a Question about Scratch, I'm moving it to Suggestions.

agreed. its like the population of scratchers. there are more new scratchers then full scratchers. that's because every month more scratchers join then the amount of new scratchers turning into full scratchers. You have to except that some people might not be as good as a scratcher as you. Im good at art, but when I have to do art in school, I don't go around saying that people shouldn't make art because it isn't as good as other people's, like mine. I except that some other people might not be as smart as me or most of the time I have to except that people ARE smarter then me. Just like size and shape. its okay if you staart off rough, there are always ways you can learn. I hope this helped with this. 

I agree with Paddle2See and Unite. Take a look at my first project! It's very simple! I think that this idea is taking it a step too far. If I told you that you couldn't make projects anymore because they're horrible, how would you feel? This is pretty much just telling New Scratchers that they aren't allowed to learn. Making projects is part of learning! If you don't learn, the world gets nowhere! I believe that everyone's first project is pretty much rubbish, but you can see the projects getting better as you go along! It's because we're learning! We've developed more programming skills along the way!

Paddle2See wrote:

Since Scratch is designed for beginning programmers and children (some of them very young), it's not surprising that a number of the projects are quite simple.  And that's a good thing - we want people to feel free to learn and explore without reservation.  Even the simple remix projects like "Add yourself..." help people learn to use the computer and share their ideas with like-minded people.

This is not to say that we don't also see some very complex and well-crafted projects on the site as well - but they are always going to be outnumbered by the beginners. 

Please do not confuse the goals of the project:  Scratch is not "supposed to be about making games and putting hard work into them".  Scratch is for letting people express their creativity on the computer with all kinds of projects:  Art projects, stories, coloring contests, simulations, math projects, games, pet pictures, etc.  Scratch is a big place and hosts a large variety of different interests.  I suggest you find Scratchers with similar interests and have fun with them and worry less about what the front page is showing 

Now, since this doesn't really seem to be a Question about Scratch, I'm moving it to Suggestions.

Paddle2See is correct. Scratch is a graphical way for young children/adults to learn basic programming skills, and to move on once they known these skills. The basic goal of scratch is to help beginners to learn, simple computer and programming skills and not to earn fame either.

Mokat wrote:

Unite wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

Since Scratch is designed for beginning programmers and children (some of them very young), it's not surprising that a number of the projects are quite simple.  And that's a good thing - we want people to feel free to learn and explore without reservation.  Even the simple remix projects like "Add yourself..." help people learn to use the computer and share their ideas with like-minded people.

This is not to say that we don't also see some very complex and well-crafted projects on the site as well - but they are always going to be outnumbered by the beginners. 

Please do not confuse the goals of the project:  Scratch is not "supposed to be about making games and putting hard work into them".  Scratch is for letting people express their creativity on the computer with all kinds of projects:  Art projects, stories, coloring contests, simulations, math projects, games, pet pictures, etc.  Scratch is a big place and hosts a large variety of different interests.  I suggest you find Scratchers with similar interests and have fun with them and worry less about what the front page is showing 

Now, since this doesn't really seem to be a Question about Scratch, I'm moving it to Suggestions.

agreed. its like the population of scratchers. there are more new scratchers then full scratchers. that's because every month more scratchers join then the amount of new scratchers turning into full scratchers. You have to except that some people might not be as good as a scratcher as you. Im good at art, but when I have to do art in school, I don't go around saying that people shouldn't make art because it isn't as good as other people's, like mine. I except that some other people might not be as smart as me or most of the time I have to except that people ARE smarter then me. Just like size and shape. its okay if you staart off rough, there are always ways you can learn. I hope this helped with this. 

I agree with Paddle2See and Unite. Take a look at my first project! It's very simple! I think that this idea is taking it a step too far. If I told you that you couldn't make projects anymore because they're horrible, how would you feel? This is pretty much just telling New Scratchers that they aren't allowed to learn. Making projects is part of learning! If you don't learn, the world gets nowhere! I believe that everyone's first project is pretty much rubbish, but you can see the projects getting better as you go along! It's because we're learning! We've developed more programming skills along the way!

I agree with Paddle2See, Mokat and Unite, you all are saying that its about learning. You learn what to do with your next project. Scratch is all about learning to program and making new projects. We develop more programming skills along the way!

   However, I do understand that the 'What the community is remixing' bar no longer shows anything new, its practically everything that was featured last week, just uploaded by someone else. I think anyone should be able to download any project (which we can) but then when others upload, the original maker should have to approve it. If it isn't approved they should fill a very basic form, where the original maker makes a short statement telling the remixer why they did not approve it.

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:

G0D_M0D3 wrote:

Anyways, RHY got really good. All of his first projects were rubbish. He learned, and you have to give people a chance.

They were still much better than everything else, even today

Also you joined in 2011, he was here in 2009

He might have had a different account.  I know I did, I've actually been around Scratch since '07, but this account is from '10.

What was your first account?

Andres-Vander wrote:

G0D_M0D3 wrote:

Anyways, RHY got really good. All of his first projects were rubbish. He learned, and you have to give people a chance.

They were still much better than everything else, even today

Also you joined in 2011, he was here in 2009

Actually, I remember him saying he's owetre18 who joined like two and a half years ago if I remember correctly.

The people like what they like.
And the stuff about curators and featured projects you suggested are all things that are already done.

It is the top viewed and top loved that you're talking about, right? Maybe try to think of a solution to this problem? :)

RedRocker227 wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:

G0D_M0D3 wrote:

Anyways, RHY got really good. All of his first projects were rubbish. He learned, and you have to give people a chance.

They were still much better than everything else, even today

Also you joined in 2011, he was here in 2009

Actually, I remember him saying he's owetre18 who joined like two and a half years ago if I remember correctly.

I know, I just added something so it didn't look like I edited for no reason

Agentpieface wrote:

Shadowed1 wrote:

I'm not saying that everyone is lazy but if you are too lazy to care about the projects you post, then you should either start using Scratch for the purpose it was intended for or you should quit the site. Not kidding.

let me just take some things from the scratch community guidelines

Be respectful. When sharing projects or posting comments, remember that people of many different ages and backgrounds will see your contributions.

Offer constructive comments. Instead of just criticizing a project or forum post, say what you like about it and offer suggestions on how to make it better.

so, people ranging from little kids to grandparents are on this site.

if you expect 100 script wonder games from all of them, go and join newgrounds.

the purpose on scratch is to teach young ones basic programming and let our creativity flow.

That last bit would make an awesome motto.

Scratch: where you can let your creativity flow

(Sorry, that was extremely random)

Who said scratch was for games? And stating that something is rubbish cannot be proven so it must be an opinion.

Mokat wrote:

Unite wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

Since Scratch is designed for beginning programmers and children (some of them very young), it's not surprising that a number of the projects are quite simple.  And that's a good thing - we want people to feel free to learn and explore without reservation.  Even the simple remix projects like "Add yourself..." help people learn to use the computer and share their ideas with like-minded people.

This is not to say that we don't also see some very complex and well-crafted projects on the site as well - but they are always going to be outnumbered by the beginners. 

Please do not confuse the goals of the project:  Scratch is not "supposed to be about making games and putting hard work into them".  Scratch is for letting people express their creativity on the computer with all kinds of projects:  Art projects, stories, coloring contests, simulations, math projects, games, pet pictures, etc.  Scratch is a big place and hosts a large variety of different interests.  I suggest you find Scratchers with similar interests and have fun with them and worry less about what the front page is showing 

Now, since this doesn't really seem to be a Question about Scratch, I'm moving it to Suggestions.

agreed. its like the population of scratchers. there are more new scratchers then full scratchers. that's because every month more scratchers join then the amount of new scratchers turning into full scratchers. You have to except that some people might not be as good as a scratcher as you. Im good at art, but when I have to do art in school, I don't go around saying that people shouldn't make art because it isn't as good as other people's, like mine. I except that some other people might not be as smart as me or most of the time I have to except that people ARE smarter then me. Just like size and shape. its okay if you staart off rough, there are always ways you can learn. I hope this helped with this. 

I agree with Paddle2See and Unite. Take a look at my first project! It's very simple! I think that this idea is taking it a step too far. If I told you that you couldn't make projects anymore because they're horrible, how would you feel? This is pretty much just telling New Scratchers that they aren't allowed to learn. Making projects is part of learning! If you don't learn, the world gets nowhere! I believe that everyone's first project is pretty much rubbish, but you can see the projects getting better as you go along! It's because we're learning! We've developed more programming skills along the way!

I disagree with the (now) red part. Almost all of the scratchers who have seen my projects think that my first one is the best. But everything else I agree with.

Haiming wrote:

Let's take a look at your projects...

Don't start a fight here...

I've posted maybe 2 pointless projects, but I never meant them to be that way, and I usually delete them. I agree with you, how people never work hard, yet stil get 100s of views while hard-workers who make good games or whatever are sitting there getting a view a day.