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#26 2012-04-22 19:42:02

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

A lot of Babylonian gods & goddesses don't really look like they're wearing much at all.


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#27 2012-04-22 20:12:51

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(Things like "Curiosity" have some very out there ideas which shouldn't be considered widely supported, though they often have experts on the matter and are very credible nonetheless)

But the whole idea of coming from Aliens seems very far fetched.
If our previous species ever knew how to fly to Earth, we obviously would remember this technology as a species.

Also, I can't find any images of Babylonian gods or (specifically Anasazi) kachinas. The Kachina images I did find resembled more Native Americans or groups which paint their bodies and use feathers.

What does looking like a Ho-Oh have to do with anything? It's not like they would invent Pokemon before us, it's an original idea. The Garuda was most likely not an airplane, because it is very easy to imagine a bird as metal.

You seem to think that past people had no imagination or creativity, and that everything came from something else at one point, which is completely untrue.

I find the bigger question to be "why they left".


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#28 2012-04-22 20:19:37

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

Maybe we killed them!


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#29 2012-04-22 20:54:07

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

Well, Garr8, you certainly have some interesting opinions! :>
But I am a very lazy boy and don't want to come up with information to discredit nearly every History Channel program involving Aliens.
so I will leave you with this:
I would start a timeline at a spot in time that doesn't challenge any sort of religious belief while keeping it to the point in having a timeline- there's no point in starting at the 1970's, but starting when God created Adam and Eve is a little contraversial/


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#30 2012-04-22 21:03:26

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

bananaman114 wrote:

Well, Garr8, you certainly have some interesting opinions! :>
But I am a very lazy boy and don't want to come up with information to discredit nearly every History Channel program involving Aliens.
so I will leave you with this:
I would start a timeline at a spot in time that doesn't challenge any sort of religious belief while keeping it to the point in having a timeline- there's no point in starting at the 1970's, but starting when God created Adam and Eve is a little contraversial/

How about instead of saying God created Adam and Eve I just say humans appeared on Mars and leave it to that.


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#31 2012-04-22 21:03:28

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

This and this should help with specific events (by no means should you include all of them though)


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#32 2012-04-22 21:06:16

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

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How about instead of saying God created Adam and Eve I just say humans appeared on Mars and leave it to that.

Very few people will take this work seriously if you present that as an event.  I suppose a "safe" place to start would be 4000 B.C.E. - ish and ignoring the creation/migration/evolution of humans.


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#33 2012-04-22 21:11:06

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I believe the show i saw on the History Channel was called Ancient Aliens

Oh and i have proof that we descended from aliens. check out the link and look at the image.

http://67.159.223.63/images/ugh.jpg


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#34 2012-04-22 21:18:24

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

So it is all a joke, this book and your creation theories!


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#35 2012-04-22 21:31:39

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

Garr8 wrote:

I believe the show i saw on the History Channel was called Ancient Aliens

Oh and i have proof that we descended from aliens. check out the link and look at the image.

http://67.159.223.63/images/ugh.jpg

An artists' rendering of aliens teaching neanderthals to make fire isn't proof, as it doesn't refute or support the event beyond doubt, or increase or decrease the chances that it actually happened.

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#36 2012-04-22 21:40:21

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

Drawings aren't proof.


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#37 2012-04-22 23:53:18

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

Garr8 wrote:

How about instead of saying God created Adam and Eve I just say humans appeared on Mars and leave it to that.

O_O


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#38 2012-04-23 01:08:39

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

MoreGamesNow wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

And uh I'm starting to think this may be a parody considering no one could ever make the entire Earth's history interesting. I mean, it's a cool idea and I'm not discrediting/insulting it, but the Earth has some boring history to work with.

That's right, blame the Earth  tongue

On the Mars thing:  That's interesting.  I was thinking of a plot (for a book that I'll never write) in which and advanced civilization of humans come to earth at the last moment to save us from catastrophe (probably not at the end of the book, it would be a let down to save everything with a super-advanced civilization coming out of nowhere xD).

Of course, I then had to deal with the fact that they kind of abandoned earth for thousands of years and seem to have gone out of their way to trick humanity into thinking it had evolved naturally. I was thinking that it was a long-term evolutionary experiment (until they had to save us from global warming or nuclear war).

However, (TRYING not to make this a religious topic.  yikes ) wouldn't two human civilisations on different planets prove creation? The chances of two exactly alike species evolving is so tiny, it's half of a grain of sand from all of the beaches in the world. So, if that were the case, creation is thus proven.  smile

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#39 2012-04-23 06:00:05

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

The beauty of writing a book like this is that it can be fictional. There's not reason why the book couldn't have humans begin their existence on Mars - crazier things have been written, think of humans who are grown in the Matrix, for example.

This topic is veering off to discussions about alien existance, which isn't what the topic is suppose to be about so I'm just giving it a little nudge back  wink


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#40 2012-04-23 16:12:05

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

MoreGamesNow wrote:

Garr8 wrote:

I believe the show i saw on the History Channel was called Ancient Aliens

Oh and i have proof that we descended from aliens. check out the link and look at the image.

http://67.159.223.63/images/ugh.jpg

An artists' rendering of aliens teaching neanderthals to make fire isn't proof, as it doesn't refute or support the event beyond doubt, or increase or decrease the chances that it actually happened.

I know just kidding.

Back on topic, i really do want to make learning history more interesting, i just wanted to know where to begin on the timeline and to add my own opinions to the creation/ origin part.


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#41 2012-04-23 16:47:15

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

Garr8 wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

Well, Garr8, you certainly have some interesting opinions! :>
But I am a very lazy boy and don't want to come up with information to discredit nearly every History Channel program involving Aliens.
so I will leave you with this:
I would start a timeline at a spot in time that doesn't challenge any sort of religious belief while keeping it to the point in having a timeline- there's no point in starting at the 1970's, but starting when God created Adam and Eve is a little contraversial/

How about instead of saying God created Adam and Eve I just say humans appeared on Mars and leave it to that.

Because that's a little far fetched if you want people to believe anything you're writing!
However, if you want to input your beliefs, start when humans were created on mars.
Then go from there.
but I have no idea how they would get to earth???

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#42 2012-04-23 17:28:17

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

MoreGamesNow wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

(Things like "Curiosity" have some very out there ideas which shouldn't be considered widely supported, though they often have experts on the matter and are very credible nonetheless)

But the whole idea of coming from Aliens seems very far fetched.
If our previous species ever knew how to fly to Earth, we obviously would remember this technology as a species.

Also, I can't find any images of Babylonian gods or (specifically Anasazi) kachinas. The Kachina images I did find resembled more Native Americans or groups which paint their bodies and use feathers.

What does looking like a Ho-Oh have to do with anything? It's not like they would invent Pokemon before us, it's an original idea. The Garuda was most likely not an airplane, because it is very easy to imagine a bird as metal.

You seem to think that past people had no imagination or creativity, and that everything came from something else at one point, which is completely untrue.

I find the bigger question to be "why they left".

They were very similar to us in their want to explore the surrounding world?

Do we humans NOT want to go to Mars simply for discovery?


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#43 2012-04-23 17:57:53

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

bananaman114 wrote:

but I have no idea how they would get to earth???

They took the bus.


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#44 2012-04-23 18:03:49

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

sparks wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

but I have no idea how they would get to earth???

They took the bus.

On that new highway?


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#45 2012-04-23 18:07:58

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

The highway to hell.


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#46 2012-04-23 18:11:04

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

soupoftomato wrote:

sparks wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

but I have no idea how they would get to earth???

They took the bus.

On that new highway?

That's the one! It was a struggle to build it - they couldn't get planning permission for quite some time, I recall, because some family complained about the potential roadworks noise near their house...


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#47 2012-04-23 18:47:00

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

bananaman114 wrote:

Garr8 wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

Well, Garr8, you certainly have some interesting opinions! :>
But I am a very lazy boy and don't want to come up with information to discredit nearly every History Channel program involving Aliens.
so I will leave you with this:
I would start a timeline at a spot in time that doesn't challenge any sort of religious belief while keeping it to the point in having a timeline- there's no point in starting at the 1970's, but starting when God created Adam and Eve is a little contraversial/

How about instead of saying God created Adam and Eve I just say humans appeared on Mars and leave it to that.

Because that's a little far fetched if you want people to believe anything you're writing!
However, if you want to input your beliefs, start when humans were created on mars.
Then go from there.
but I have no idea how they would get to earth???

They were advanced enough to have spaceships, then after the flood, technology was forgotten and the two worlds lost contact with eachother


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#48 2012-04-23 19:04:58

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

sparks wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

Start at uh
A long time ago
in a Galaxy far far away

Hmm, somehow this idea sounds like an excellent beginning for a novel... maybe even a series... maybe even... films?!  wink

To take an excerpt from this wikipedia page:

"The age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years (4.54 × 109 years ± 1%).This age is based on evidence from radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples"

Which would be the age of the universe if today's scientists are to be believed.

Actually, it's believed that the age of the universe is around 14 billion years, give or take.

Wikipedia(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe) wrote:

Current interpretations of astronomical observations indicate that the age of the universe is 13.75 ± 0.17 billion years,

However, this is rather debatable, because we assume that the universe has been expanding at the speed of light or faster, and the furthest objects we can see are 14 billion light-years away, so we say it is 14 billion years.

I was about to start correcting everyone else on their facts, but since this discussion is more about time than random trivia, I won't.

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#49 2012-04-23 20:19:02

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

Garr8 wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

Garr8 wrote:


How about instead of saying God created Adam and Eve I just say humans appeared on Mars and leave it to that.

Because that's a little far fetched if you want people to believe anything you're writing!
However, if you want to input your beliefs, start when humans were created on mars.
Then go from there.
but I have no idea how they would get to earth???

They were advanced enough to have spaceships, then after the flood, technology was forgotten and the two worlds lost contact with eachother

Then why haven't we found any parts of spaceships or anything?


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#50 2012-04-23 21:00:29

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Re: where to begin on a timeline

bananaman114 wrote:

Garr8 wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:


Because that's a little far fetched if you want people to believe anything you're writing!
However, if you want to input your beliefs, start when humans were created on mars.
Then go from there.
but I have no idea how they would get to earth???

They were advanced enough to have spaceships, then after the flood, technology was forgotten and the two worlds lost contact with eachother

Then why haven't we found any parts of spaceships or anything?

Perhaps more importantly: why does a species that isn't native to Earth share such a similar structure to native-to-earth life? 98.5% of our DNA is exactly the same as chimpanzees; that doesn't happen by chance.

Are the fossils of earlier humans fake?  Did the old civilization try to fool future generations that they had evolved naturally on earth?


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