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They should give you credit.

Plagiarism stinks.

I've had one of my projects plagiarized. The plagiarizing user downloaded, looked at the scripts, copied them exactly and changed the charactors so it wouldnt say "based off Survivorduck's project". I contacted Scratch team, the user got a warning to give credit. the user STILL didnt give credit so I contacted Scratch Team again and the project was removed.

So if that happens to you, tell that user to give credit. (give them a couple of days) If they don't, contact Scratch Team!

yeah i have plagiarism

Last edited by bucksgen (2010-02-09 21:34:21)

RubberBootStudios wrote:

this has nothing to do with plagarism: how do you make a script so something will appear (but without touching it its hidden) so when you touch a color on the backround it will appear?

Hey RubberBootStudios, I think it will be better if you hit the 'Post New Topic' link and created a topic of your own asking for help - creating new topics are more likely to get more attention and help than posting an off-topic post in an old thread. 

jake451998 wrote:

I hate when this happens,like [removed by Forum Moderator] took my project 'some of my (jake451998) yugiohcards' copied it and deleted the (jake451998) 

The thing to do in cases like that is to Flag the project and explain what has happened so that the Scratch Team can check it out.

rdococ wrote:

jake451998 wrote:

I hate when this happens,like [removed by Forum Moderator] took my project 'some of my (jake451998) yugiohcards' copied it and deleted the (jake451998) 

"[removed by Forum Moderator]"? Is that even a project or user?

No, forum moderators just put a message like that in replacement of a text that is inappropriate to put in a forum post (in this case, it was the name of a user. The Scratch team discourages using the forums to publicly posts names of users who are suspected of acting inappropriately).

Andresmh has a project explaining Scratch plagiarism. He says any Scratch project may be remixed as long as credit to the original author is given in the description. 

andresmh wrote:

Thanks a lot for bringing up this topic jamie! 

We want to learn from you, [removed] and everybody else in this community about what things should be allowed and what things should not be allowed. Your opinions are really important so I have a couple of questions for you:

What do you think [removed] should have done so you were not annoyed?

Do you think people should not be allowed to copy other people's projects?

Do you think everybody should give credit to the people who created the images and sounds used in a Scratch project?

If you see a project that you like and you create your own version of it without looking at the code of the other person's game: do you think you should give credit to the other person for getting inspired by her or his idea?

Thanks!

If someone did that to me, my perspective would be:

1. Given me credit, or changed it a lot more.

2. I think we should be able to have lockable projects. If unlocked, you can copy, and remix as much as desired. If locked, you can not even download it.

Yes, I know this has a few problems, and has been resolved, but I still rebel to no locks. You can read about this story here.

3. Yes. Even if they say that you don't have to, it's still a good idea.

4. It depends on how far I go. If I didn't even download the project, and it turns out nothing like the original, then others might think I have the wrong user/project that I gave credit to be inspired by. If I practically downloaded the project, examined it, and created a duplicate with different artwork, and minor script changes, then I should DEFINITELY give credit to inspiration.

Last edited by Paddle2See (2011-08-06 05:22:21)

How is this any different than people making games with Nintendo's sprites, game concepts, etc? I find it funny how people complain about something they're guilty of.

science3 wrote:

veeeeeeeery interesting. Haha lol

Cholo71796 wrote:

I noticed that, it doesn't seem like much of a problem, other than that [removed] is lame. 

Although [removed] playgerized her project, it is rude to call her lame and could upset the scratch team

@jamie comment something about credit like "credit, please??" and if she deletes it, post it again.

Last edited by Paddle2See (2011-08-06 05:21:32)

Well if it doesn't say "based on...." then she might have copied the exact code on her game...

infinitum3d wrote:

My first thought was, 'Is it really that big a deal?'. I mean, this is Scracth, a learning environment, and there is no money involved here, so who cares what anyone else does, just mind your own business and move on.

But then I thought about it more. It IS plagarism, and if Scratch is meant to be an educational tool, then the environment needs to teach legal values as well. If kids get on here and start Stealing (which is what it is) scripts created by others, then they could go on to other projects and programming environments thinking it is OK to just copy whatever they want.

And not just code/scripts, this goes for sprites too. If you get sprites from the internet, give credit to the site you took them from, or at least say, 'I found these online somewhere'.

My personal opinion, and that's all this is; No matter what you do, give credit. It's only fair. Even if you completely make your own game writing all the code yourself, if the IDEA came from seeing someone elses project, give credit. It doesn't hurt you at all, and I honestly believe it makes the world a better place. Sappy, I know, but that's what I believe.

Why wouldn't you give credit to someone else? It takes nothing away from you.  Jamie, don't let it get you down. YOU know you created the project, and that's all that really matters.

FINALLY someone who understands!


But when you REALLY think about it, what gain does that person have over you? A year from now, if you are even still on Scratch, chances are that you won’t remember it. We are all just going to grow old and die, and that person’s plagiarism is just another sin to add on to the millions of others that everyone, including that person, always commits.