Scratch

Here is my opinion:

With popular games like chops shop, archery champion, etc I have noticed that nearly every remix is a total copy and yet none of the other projects have anything besides rude comments saying 'copier' or maybe one person sayig something nice. I have never seen a copy project with nearly as many comments, love its, views, etc as the original, it just hurts the copying user's reputation. I believe that copying is done in an attempt to gain popularity, which fails miserably as it backfires and makes everyone think of the copying user as a copycat and whatnot.

A possible way of stopping this would be to talk to the copying users and try to find out why they did it to gain incite on what is causing the problem and come closer to stopping it.

Another approach might be to, instead of using the based on 'users' project system put something like this underneath a project: on an original work: 100% user1's work. On a remix it would calculate how much of the scripts were from the original and how many had been changed and if it was a total copy it would still say 100% user1's work however if user2 had changed just a few scripts it might say 90% user1's work 10% user2's work. Or if the project just took one feature, script, sound or graphic from the original it might say 4% user1's work 96% user2's work and so on, even if it was a remix of a remix of a remix and it was just a tiny bit each users work.

Alternatively you could not allow a remix to be uploaded if not enough had been changed (if that's possible to figure out).

Again, to any user who's project has been copied, don't worry about much credit going to the remixers work, I've never seen it and I've done A LOT of browsing the scratch site.

EDIT: I've never been first to start a new page before.

Last edited by kgordon (2009-05-18 10:41:07)

Maki-Tak wrote:

Today I had an idea-

When someone ripped off my project, I asked some friends to support me. They stuck up for me and the user stopped.
Now, taking that further.
Today I thought, what if there was a club (like the remix police lol) that did that sort of thing? I mean, I know all the stuff about having a "based on" thing at the bottom, but I'm mainly talking about music, art, and sprites.
There's also the people that have the based on bit on their projects but still say they made it all from Scratch. But we're moving away from the topic now...

Anyways, It's just a thought, and I'd like some feedback! Thanx!

According to the Creative Commons license they are free to do so, as long as they change something. (At least that is my understanding and I have done some research of what the license allows). 

Does the system notify you if things are remixed - if so I think then you should download it - compare they two and report it for copyright violation. To claim it's a remix when it's not is a violation of the CC License.  If you can't find it - I'd post - "Looks like what I made - what did you change". It would show you have class and give them a chance to explain , if they choose to remain quiet and not reply to the comment - that shows they probably did not change anything.

AGree.Some1 remixed my Pong 2 Project, changed a few backrounds, added a change control button and i got no credit. i worked hard converting m,usic, making many of the backrounds, getting the balls and paddles to work...

jamie wrote:

Is it allowed if someone takes your game, changes the theme, then calls it "their creation"? Because I created a game called "Pong 2.1" and a week later, a user called "mina" redid the background, and called "her creation" and I am really annoyed with her for taking credit for MY game, I just want to know if it is a Scratch rule if you can slightly alter a game and call it yours.

Jamie

MY GAME: Pong 2.1
MINA'S GAME: Wack-Pong

fafcater wrote:

Well, this, 'Mina' Is probably jealous, but I agree with you... She is STEALING! I think it should be not okay, but I dont know...

we used to use Scratch in school, and this one kid kept copying (STEALING) my sprites and music then calling it a different project without giving me credit in which I asked for. I agree, this is a huge issue on the Scratch website.

Can you add a thing saying "X scripts away from [game] by [user]"

jamie wrote:

Is it allowed if someone takes your game, changes the theme, then calls it "their creation"? Because I created a game called "Pong 2.1" and a week later, a user called "mina" redid the background, and called "her creation" and I am really annoyed with her for taking credit for MY game, I just want to know if it is a Scratch rule if you can slightly alter a game and call it yours.

Jamie

MY GAME: Pong 2.1
MINA'S GAME: Wack-Pong

OOOOH! You did the same thing with Lime OS, Orange OS and all the others! You are mad about this, right? Well, Syn OS is mad too, as well as WinSoup. Thake that into consideration.

One way to protect your name rights to the scripts of a project is to embed your username into the scripts, like use it in a variable. then if anyone else uses it, you know that they used your unique scripts. that is something lots of programmers in all programming languages use to protect their rights to identification as the original author. if you are working in a group, embed the group name. If you have a piece of art, sign your signature, or have it barely transparent in front of your creation. that is a way to protect your media and codes if you yourself made it and don't want other people to just use it without permission. they still can, but at least they wont be fooling anybody (except the fools... of which there actually are a few on scratch. They are ignorant and stuff... similar to mistaking "made up" for "made it up" for a recent example... no offence) and if they aren't able to understand that, then they don't really matter as far as what they think, to you. hope this is helpful for the people who are clingy to their art (scripts can be art, and they will be if you personalize them.)

The creator should be able to see who downloaded their projects, and should have the option to block downloading in my opinion.

randomness..
This guy's just reuploading popular projects to get popular >.>
[user name removed by moderator]

Last edited by cheddargirl (2009-10-25 12:22:33)

Are you allowed to report a project for plagiarism?


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well blocking download isnt an option cause then any of my project wont be seen as they r lame online and Rhy will literally Die. there should be some integration in the scratch file itself of making a sprite for credits in start.

It's been resolved already

bridgetgirl wrote:

I think it is even allowed if you take thier game and do not edit anything BUT give credit.

Actually, this is not allowed. You are allowed to upload modified version of Scratch projects (remixes), but never duplicates of a project that are exactly identical to the original (considered to be copying).