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>Profile, look at post count, spam.


This is a terrible idea by the way, in my opinion.

Plus this new update rules out nobody, I've never seen spam to up a post count.

Last edited by Liru (2012-02-15 15:23:27)

TRocket wrote:

do you plan on ever removing this or maybe showing users exact post counts on their user pages?

I'm not sure what the use would be?  Seems like it might encourage them to spam to up the count, which is why we've removed the actual numbers.

Lightnin wrote:

TRocket wrote:

do you plan on ever removing this or maybe showing users exact post counts on their user pages?

I'm not sure what the use would be?  Seems like it might encourage them to spam to up the count, which is why we've removed the actual numbers.

thing is this is how users became famous, although if we have new ranks like experienced scratcher this may be all right...

EDIT: maybe you could show users number of posts in non-misc forums

Last edited by TRocket (2012-02-15 15:26:42)

I don't think this is a very good idea.    Maybe if there was a way to veiw how many posts you actually have in the profile page.

Edit: Oh there already is that. I completely support the idea. 

Last edited by poopo (2012-02-15 15:28:13)

Hmm, I think we should have ranks to go with the post counts, just to be a bit more obvious.

Basically it could go like this:

<100: New Scratcher
>100: Scratcher
>500: Confident Scratcher
>1000: Trusted Scratcher

Then again, I guess post counts don't really define that.

I think we could also show the exact count above 15,000 since spammers aren't as likely to reach that high. But, we'd need an exact post count anyway since you can't see if a person has spammed up to 14,999 without knowing where they spammed.

I'm not against the change, I'm actually kind of with the change. But spammers may aswell take advantage of this too. However, the pros, right now, overweigh the cons.

TRocket wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

TRocket wrote:

do you plan on ever removing this or maybe showing users exact post counts on their user pages?

I'm not sure what the use would be?  Seems like it might encourage them to spam to up the count, which is why we've removed the actual numbers.

thing is this is how users became famous, although if we have new ranks like experienced scratcher this may be all right...

EDIT: maybe you could show users number of posts in non-misc forums

Hmmm... Well, this raises an important question - is this a good criteria for becoming famous? It seems like making awesome projects would be a better one. 

Liru wrote:

TRocket wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

I'm not sure what the use would be?  Seems like it might encourage them to spam to up the count, which is why we've removed the actual numbers.

thing is this is how users became famous, although if we have new ranks like experienced scratcher this may be all right...

If ranks were somewhat tied into post count then it'd be acceptable, this just makes little sense and doesn't really stop spam.

No, it should stop spam a fair bit, if it's post count spam. People won't be able to get to 100+ posts just with spam, they'd get caught first. So they wouldn't bother. And the other targets are also hard to reach. And once they got over 1000 there'd be no point in spam-posting at all.

Lightnin wrote:

TRocket wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

I'm not sure what the use would be?  Seems like it might encourage them to spam to up the count, which is why we've removed the actual numbers.

thing is this is how users became famous, although if we have new ranks like experienced scratcher this may be all right...

EDIT: maybe you could show users number of posts in non-misc forums

Hmmm... Well, this raises an important question - is this a good criteria for becoming famous? It seems like making awesome projects would be a better one. 

well, some people like me are very active at helping scratchers on the forums but don't often post projects..

Liru wrote:

werdna123 wrote:

Liru wrote:

If ranks were somewhat tied into post count then it'd be acceptable, this just makes little sense and doesn't really stop spam.

No, it should stop spam a fair bit, if it's post count spam. People won't be able to get to 100+ posts just with spam, they'd get caught first. So they wouldn't bother. And the other targets are also hard to reach. And once they got over 1000 there'd be no point in spam-posting at all.

Where are you seeing all this spam? And they'll be caught no matter how their post count is displayed.

I don't see spam, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't tighten defence against it. And the point of this was to make less point in Spamming to get high post counts. I think it should do that.

TRocket wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

TRocket wrote:

thing is this is how users became famous, although if we have new ranks like experienced scratcher this may be all right...

EDIT: maybe you could show users number of posts in non-misc forums

Hmmm... Well, this raises an important question - is this a good criteria for becoming famous? It seems like making awesome projects would be a better one. 

well, some people like me are very active at helping scratchers on the forums but don't often post projects..

And that's a great thing! But I'm not sure if the post count really reflects being active and helpful very well...  Unfortunately, things like that are really hard to quantify, and represent. It'd be cool if we could show a *helpfulness* number, but I know of no good way to do that.

Liru wrote:

werdna123 wrote:

Liru wrote:

Where are you seeing all this spam? And they'll be caught no matter how their post count is displayed.

I don't see spam, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't tighten defence against it. And the point of this was to make less point in Spamming to get high post counts. I think it should do that.

They'll get caught before they reach 100 anyway, and under 100 their post count is shown as numbers anyway, pretty pointless update.

Uhh, they're not always going to have 0 posts when they start spamming. Somone might have say 980 posts, and wants 1k by the end of the day so will spam to 1000.